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[opensuse-gnome] pulseaudio and volume applet
by Rodrigo Moya 23 May '08

23 May '08

Hi After all the discussions and bugs, we've decided to patch the volume applet (the upstream one) to run the PA volume control instead of its own one. Also, the volume applet is now in the default setup for the panel, so this should solve the 'I want a simple volume slider' problem The remaining issue is how to best offer access to the nice PA features (like the speaker setup thing). Some options: * leave padevchooser icon on the system tray. This might seem redundant, since it offers the same features the volume applet offers (plus others, of course), although it doesn't seem to disturb too much * add menu items to the volume applet's menu to open the different PA tools any thoughts ? -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Bug Day - Wednesday 2008/05/28 9am EST (13:00 UTC)
by Christopher Hobbs 22 May '08

22 May '08

Greetings GNOME Community! The next openSUSE-GNOME Bug Day will take place on Freenode in #opensuse-gnome (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-gnome) on Wednesday 2008/05/28 9am EST (13:00 UTC). To see this time for your timezone, take a look at the following page: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=28&year=20… The purpose of this Bug Day will be to clean up any GNOME related bugs and/or enhancements from openSUSE 10.3 that are fixed for the upcoming openSUSE 11.0 release. To review topics and protocol, see the Bug Day's wiki entry: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/BugDays/20080528 Previous Bug Days can be reviewed here: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/BugDays For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE either). We hope to see you there! Regards, Christopher M. Hobbs -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] [opensuse-announce] openSUSE-GNOME project meeting - 2008/05/29- 18:00 CEST (16:00 GMT)
by Casual Programmer 22 May '08

22 May '08

Hi all GNOME addicts, The next openSUSE-GNOME project meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-gnome IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-gnome) on upcoming Thursday: 2008/05/29 18:00 CEST (16:00 UTC) For an overview what time this is in different timezones, use: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=29&month=05&year=2… This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE-GNOME. Please review your topics on the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOMEMeetings/20080529 as soon as possible. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/;(not affiliated with openSUSE either). Have a lot of fun .. Casual J. Programmer (on behalf of the openSUSE-GNOME team) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-announce+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-announce+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/05/22)
by Rodrigo Moya 22 May '08

22 May '08

Introduction March to RC1 almost complete 11.1 alpha0 2 weeks after 11.0 Factory testing discussion Kernel bug very annoying ACPI brekage on post-beta 3 Under prioritized bugs Today's openSUSE bug voting day http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Bugs contains links to queries based on voting AI: (everyone) vote for bugs Schedule 10.3 bug squash 10.2 and older bugs have been squashed AI: hobbsc to set up http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/BugDays , find a date and run the 10.3 squash Community outreach/clinic/howto Looking for new ways to increase community involvement/awareness Weekly meetings in the channel covering various topics of interest to users, trying to make them a collaborative effort, where users can talk about their needs Write HOWTO's out of those meetings AI: suseROCKS and captain_magnus to get the ball rolling on this next week Pulseaudio gnome-applets patched to run PA volume control, and is now included in the panel by default Discussion going on opensuse-gnome about what to do with padevchooser PackageKit Should all be ok for Friday's RC1 submission date Zypper sometimes shows lots of updates but then does not update anything Multi-head wrap-up We can't get rid of resapplet for 11.0, as right now it's the only way we have to do rotation easily for tablets X drivers are a total mess, and SaX doesn't help with setting up an xorg.conf that is friendly to doing RANDR changes dynamically Other distros not using resapplet The recommendation now is: • use gnome-display-properties to set up your multihead setup, *after* reading the caveats in the wiki (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Multiscreen) • use resapplet just to rotate if you are on a tablet Theme meetings We need to get back on track with these What technical topics do we want to cover? -> X, kiwi ? , GNOME / KDE cooperation -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] pulseaudio and volume applet
by Casual Programmer 22 May '08

22 May '08

O> > > The remaining issue is how to best offer access to the nice PA features > > (like the speaker setup thing). Some options: > > > > * leave padevchooser icon on the system tray. This might seem redundant, > > since it offers the same features the volume applet offers (plus others, > > of course), although it doesn't seem to disturb too much > > > > * add menu items to the volume applet's menu to open the different PA > > tools > > > > any thoughts ? Could it be added to the Preferences Dialog that opens from the volume applets context menu ? I would think that an appropriate place. Casual -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] pulseaudio and volume applet
by Casual Programmer 21 May '08

21 May '08

> * add menu items to the volume applet's menu to open the different PA > tools > I think it would be nice if the applet menu could be split into right click and left click. Currently they both seem to be identical. Controlling volume is presently somewhat clumsy, it would be nice if left / right click could simply present the options the volume applet now offers: control volume and mute. Casual -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE-GNOME project meeting - 2008/05/22 - 18:00 CEST (16:00 GMT)
by Casual Programmer 20 May '08

20 May '08

Hi all GNOME addicts, The next openSUSE-GNOME project meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-gnome IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-gnome) on upcoming Thursday: 2008/05/22 18:00 CEST (16:00 UTC) For an overview what time this is in different timezones, use: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=05&year=2… This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE-GNOME. Please review your topics on the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOMEMeetings/20080522 as soon as possible. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/;(not affiliated with openSUSE either). Have a lot of fun .. Casual J. Programmer (on behalf of the openSUSE-GNOME team) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] QGtkStyle: Qt widgets rendered through the Gtk theme engine
by Ivan N. Zlatev 16 May '08

16 May '08

Yes, kids, it is true! GtkStyle[1] is a Qt4 Style (Theme Engine) that uses the GTK+ theme engine to draw the Qt widgets (the opposite of gtk-qt). This means that all of the Qt widgets are going to look like a 100% copy of your current GTK+ theme ones, unlike if you are using Qt3's Cleanlooks, which is just a clearlooks like theme or QTCurve. Unfortunately it's Qt4-only, but I guess that won't matter once openSUSE 11 comes out. I have packaged the GtkStyle (libqt4-gtkstyle) in my home repository if someone wants to play: * http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/i-nZ/openSUSE_10.3+KDE4_STA… * http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/i-nZ/openSUSE_Factory/ For openSUSE 10.3 you will need to add also the KDE4:STABLE repository to get Qt version 4.4: * http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSU… I am wondering if this is something worth adding to openSUSE 11? [1] http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Styles/GtkStyle http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/05/13/introducing-qgtkstyle/ Cheers, Ivan. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Missing translation for PulseAudio applet
by Alberto Passalacqua 16 May '08

16 May '08

Hi, PulseAudio applet is not translated at all into Italian, and I suspect in other languages. I opened this bugreport for beta 2, but no answer arrived.: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=386456 The problem is still in beta3. Does this depend on missing upstream translations? Regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Preparation for upcoming Meeting
by Casual Programmer 15 May '08

15 May '08

Hi all, I thought it might be a good idea to let you have my thoughts on the Agenda's topics beforehand hoping it helps to streamline the discussion. Casual opensuse-gnome Meeting 20080515-18:00 Agenda * Introduction o http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME (jpr) * Factory testing discussion (everyone) o http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/11.0/Testing Not sure whether we all have access to _identical_ resources ( internal / public ) * Under prioritized Bugs (jpr) o May 22 bug voting day Network issues ( NetworkManager / ifup ) Mount point inflation zypper ( I am using smart whenever zypper is broken, I use it quite a lot ) * PackageKit Update (sreeves) * PulseAudio Update (rodrigo) Nothing against it, just no use for it, should be an option not a default. * Task Update (suseROCKS) o http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Tasks * Discussion of GNOME Patterns provided and possible impli/complications (jpr / all) o http://www.gnome.org/about/why.html yast2 sw_single patterns shows 3 GNOME Patterns (Base System, Desktop, Development) zypper pt shows 21 GNOME Patterns 13 of them installed | devel_gnome | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | gnome | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_admin | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_basis | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_basis_opt | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | gnome_games | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | gnome_ide | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_imaging | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_imaging_opt | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | gnome_internet | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_laptop | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | gnome_multimedia | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | gnome_multimedia_opt | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_office | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_office_opt | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_utilities | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_utilities_opt | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_xgl | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | gnome_yast | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | | rest_cd_gnome | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | i | sw_management_gnome | 11.0-95 | openSuSE-Factory | Why choose GNOME http://www.gnome.org/about/why.html shows 6 intended Audiences GNOME for Business, GNOME for Home Users, GNOME for Developers, GNOME for the World, GNOME for People with Disabilities, GNOME for System Administrators. Patterns should be adjusted to match intended audiences and be (de)selectable during installation. All items not part of a selected pattern should not be installed by default. If something is thought a marvellous _must_have_ application ( a killer like PA ) then it should be advertised and offered by a link on the desktop rather than installed by default leaving it up to the user to find out about it. This includes a decent introduction just why this is thought to be the salvation for all, and how people not installing it must go to hell. * Agenda for upcoming meeting (jpr / all) How to reduce number of Bugs to begin with. Bug 371745, Bug 374911, Bug 269774 * Q&A

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