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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/04/10)
by Rodrigo Moya 12 Apr '08

12 Apr '08

Factory testing mw updating GNOME to 2.22.1 No big problems found recently Torrent decision Monsoon will be the default client with transmission on the media should people have issues with it GSoC We have some applications, mentors need to pick the best ones mentors, if you haven't registered at http://code.google.com/soc/2008/mentor_step1.html do it now Policy review Not many comments on the wiki page (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Desktop_Policy) AI: vuntz: send mail to the mailing list about policy review Wishlist review mybudget, mugshot and twitter available in home projects Should be defered until 11.1 because of close to 11.0 Putting packages in G:C should be always the 1st step, to get wide testing Main menu performance work All performance patches submitted to 11.0 Need to be submitted to 10.3 Leak fixes for other modules also done, will be submitted to 11.0 Another 1 or 2 performance weeks for main-menu would help GDM status We're staying with 2.20 for 11.0, 2.22 has some issues still 2.22 branch will be available on the build service Compiz/Xgl update Patch to simple-ccsm to replace appearance capplet patch being submitted soon Move of gnome-xgl-switch to xgl package and gnome-xgl-settings being removed Hardware database will be moved to xgl package also Patch upstreaming update No progress this week, next week back to normal rhythm New but untagged patches are being submitted, please TAG ALL PATCHES!!! AI: rodrigo to send mailing lists patch policy for gnome packages AI: rodrigo to add a note to all .spec files about tagging -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Patches for GNOME packages
by Rodrigo Moya 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hi The GNOME packages (packages maintained by gnome-maintainers@) follow the patch tagging guidelines described in this page: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Patches#Patch_Standards so please, consider this a gently reminder that if you add new patches to packages maintained by the GNOME team, please take a minute to add the correct tagging. In a not too distant future we might add hooks to osc to not even allow you to submit a package with untagged patches, so get used to do it now :-) -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] XGL/Compiz changes
by Rodrigo Moya 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hi After discussing it with JP and Cyberorg, here's a list of actions that will be done, so please add your comments: * gnome-xgl-settings will disappear, the hardware database thing will be moved to simple-ccsm to enable/disable GUI when the graphics card is not supported. * my patch to the appearance capplet will be moved also to simple-ccsm, there will be a check box to enable/disable compiz (if the graphics card is in the database), and if ticked, the rest of the GUI will be as it is now. * gnome-xgl-switch will be moved to xgl, probably with the hardware database also? with this, we cover the compiz config from within the desktop. For enabling xgl, users would need to run gnome-xgl-switch (or xgl-switch if moved to xgl package), thus this will work for both KDE and GNOME people. The best solution would be to have the enabling in the X configuration, but it's probably too late for this, so not sure if we'll have this (discussing with the X guys now) so, any comments? -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] My Torrent Observations
by Alan McGovern 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

> As far as I can tell, monsoon is not localizable right now, which is a major issue. It's currently available in French, German, English, Spanish and I've got word that a Hungarian translation is on the way. SVN has a TRANSLATIONS document which explains the process for new translators, so it's as simple as checking out from svn and reading that. If you know anyone who wants to translate Monsoon, just point em towards the svn url: http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/monsoon Thanks, Alan. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Meeting Thursday April 10 at 17:00 GMT
by Akhil Laddha 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

( apologies for the late notice ) Greetings GNOME/openSUSE lovers, the GNOME team will be holding its meeting this Thursday at 17:00 UTC Today's meeting http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080410 Thanks, -- Akhil Laddha <lakhil(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] My Torrent Observations
by Bryen 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Ok, Over the weekend I had the chance to examine Transmission and Monsoon from a "new to torrents" perspective. IF we can include both, great. If we have to decide on only one, I would side with Monsoon. The reason being, it is reasonably easy to understand it and it has greater options making it an excellent choice for the newbie who graduates to more advanced user, without having to go to another application. -- ---Bryen--- Let's rejoice a "There are no dumb questions" culture. But I really need you to have a "No dumb answers" policy before I answer your question. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Main-menu performance summary
by Federico Mena Quintero 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

Good news! On cold startup, main-menu went from taking 24.4 seconds to start up, to taking 4.6 seconds. On warm startup, it went from taking about 1.88 seconds to start up, to taking about 0.26 seconds. This is on my machine, a Thinkpad with a slow hard drive and about 860 entries in my ~/.recently-used.xbel. This is what Magnus and I did during the week: * Add some checkpointing to main-menu and libslab to get timestamps at interesting places in the code. * Avoid loading tile tables more often than needed. This makes startup and general operation faster. * Avoid loading the recently-used store during startup; do it when the Computer menu pops up. This makes startup faster. * Avoid loading the recently-used store twice. Makes the Computer menu pop up faster. * Avoid reading thumbnails twice for all the document tiles. Makes the Computer memu pop up faster. * Load expensive/global stuff during the idle time between the applet's startup and the time when the user brings up the Computer menu. This reduces both startup time and the popup time for the Computer menu, *and* lets us use idle time effectively right after startup. * Updates to the main-menu's contents, when the recently-used files change, are now throttled. This will reduce CPU burn in general. All of this code is in SVN trunk right now, and in our package for openSUSE 11.0. I didn't submit it upstream for gnome-2-22, since I don't want the changes in libslab to break anything (nothing should break, but hey). I'll submit the patches for openSUSE 10.3 after fixing up the patch for that version, and after going through the internal procedure to request an online update :) Enjoy, Federico and Captain_Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Request: Add FileZilla as default FTP client, instead of gFtp
by Nagappan A 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hi, In package list, Add FileZilla as the default FTP client, instead of gFtp. Thanks Nagappan -- Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org http://nagappanal.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GDM 2.20 for openSUSE 11.0
by Hans Petter Jansson 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

After weeks of indecision (or, as I like to put it, consideration), I've determined that we'd better stick with GDM 2.20 for openSUSE 11.0. We will not be shipping the to-be-released GDM 2.22. Thanks to everyone who chipped in leading to this conclusion. Reasons for this include: - Significant risk of breakage due to insufficient testing. It's late in the cycle to be including GDM 2.22, but we couldn't have done it earlier because the upstream code wasn't mature enough. - Greatly reduced configurability. It's not clear how this will affect deployments. - Rapidly changing code base. It will be hard to maintain patches against it for a while yet. - Reduced theming potential. It won't look as good. - Few short-term benefits. While increased testing is important, it could spoil an otherwise excellent release for GNOME - and I think we deserve such a good release this time around. - GDM 2.20 will be supported upstream for a long time still. We'll consider GDM 2.22 for openSUSE 11.1 and hopefully we'll be able to include it then. In the meantime, we'll maintain GDM 2.22 in the build service (probably in GNOME:UNSTABLE) and I'll try to keep it in a state that's compatible with openSUSE 11.0, so those who want to can run it. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Package Drops
by JP Rosevear 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

To wrap up the discussion, Dropped: at-poke gnome-keyring-manager Kept: contact-lookup-applet (as discussed in meeting) glade2 (not quite as discussed, but upon further thought, lets keep for one more release because of massive xml alterations) -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME main menu bugs
by Alberto Passalacqua 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Hello, looking at bugzilla, I found various bugs regarding gnome-main-menu which are still open, and that would be wonderful to see solved/closed before the release of 11.0, especially those about memory leaks and loading delays. The following bugs have been already assigned: * Bug 338024 - main-menu uses a lot of cpu resources (Assignee: Federico) * Bug 194880 - Main Menu too large and can't resize when using lower monitor screen resolutions (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 184520 - Gnome menu locks when opening complex Excel files through shares (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 310710 - cropped gnome-main-menu icon and label (Assignee: Federico) * Bug 255732 - GNOME-Main-Menu: Add to Favorites Behavior Inconsistent (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 247906 - The buttons on the gnome-main-menu are too big. (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 328838 - Sorting apps in SLAB doesn't work (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) The following are still marked as new, even though many have been assigned: * Bug 348183 - gnome-main-menu startup time > 1min + 100% CPU * Bug 343725 - gnome-main-menu - rename or remove items does not work * Bug 338515 - In main gnome menu application must don't duplicated * Bug 362974 - "Computer" on main menu seems to ignore fast clicks * Bug 343917 - Main-Menu overlaps Orca's screen magnifier * Bug 362953 - gnome-main-menu high CPU usage on opening multiple files in Nautilus * Bug 352120 - strangely big main-menu * Bug 356624 - main-menu / multi-display ... * Bug 328122 - gnome-main-menu and keyboard navigation * Bug 336735 - Slab and Intlclock always show on display :0.0 in TwinView/Non-Xinerama * Bug 187876 - Main Menu - Recent Documents list includes files that do not exist * Bug 364186 - Main menu leaks again Regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/04/03)
by Rodrigo Moya 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Introduction People want to discuss building more community members and contributions JP out next week AI: schedule community contribution discussion April 17 Factory testing Usual round of updates this week Bad kernel update bug is fixed No wireless at all for some people (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=376742) Missing esound problem, will be fixed with a Provides:esound in pulseaudio Other testing requests: xdg-user-dirs-gtk, packagekit, gdm Google Summer of Code We have a bunch of applications AI: Federico to bring plan for accepting applications to opensuse-project AI: federico1 to ensure we accept GSoC applications properly before deadline Torrent default app decision Monsoon seems the more dynamic app, good response from its maintainer Transmission seems to have a better UI, actively developed, although a bit mac centric BitTorrent-gtk very basic but should work for basic needs AI: add both monsoon and transmission, monsoon as default AI: suseROCKS to run tests with both apps AI: FunkyPenguin to package Transmission today AI: vuntz to move Transmission and monsoon to autobuild and drop gnome-btdownload Policy review http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Desktop_Policy contains a huge table with the gconf keys we change Once completed, we'll discuss every change AI: vuntz, rodrigo to define new policy patch tags Wishlist review Please respond to the thread, especially in the case of any new packages that might be needed Pattern review After discussion on the list, we should be able to compile a list of packages to be dropped from the CD pattern For base patterns, bring up discussion on opensuse-factory Main menu performance work Magnus' 3-liner patch shrinks main-menu startup time by more than half Main-menu is reading ~/.recently-used.xbel twice at startup, should be easy to fix and reduce time by 0.1 sec more Now starting up in under 1.5 seconds GDM status GDM not shipped in GNOME 2.22 is now up to 2.21.9, should be ready for 11.0 Test packages at https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home:hpjansson:11.0-testing (might need the ConsoleKit package from that repo also) Some configurability regressions still present, might be a problem for deployments Background image + gtkrc for login dialog for basic theming Compiz/XGL update 'Enable desktop effects' option in appearance capplet now in FACTORY Discussion upstream for a distro-agnostic fix, but will take some time Need to decide on dropping gnome-xgl-settings once the functionality to switch XGL/AIGLX is in yast AI: vuntz to hack something quickly in gnome-wm to start the correct WM in all cases (ie when the session is not saved) PackageKit update PK testing info is on the wiki now (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/11.0/Testing) Test it and let Scott know of any problems Patch upstreaming Not much progress this week because of package review, but some upstreamed patches were removed this week, so number of patches continues going down 756 patches still remaining as of today Task update suseROCKS will send confirmation for tasks when moving off RTM to wiki Should we continue including task updates in the meetings? It should be already covered in each topic -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Meeting Thursday April 3rd at 8am EDT/12:00 UTC
by JP Rosevear 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Greetings GNOME/openSUSE lovers, the GNOME team will be holding its next meeting this Thursday at 12:00 UTC (14:00 in europe). This is our monthly time shift meeting and clocks have changed recently, so please check the times carefully. World times for the meeting at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=3&month=04&year=20… Last meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080327 Next meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080403 Calendar of all meetings: webcal://news.opensuse.org/?ec3_ical Meeting info: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings Tasks: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Tasks -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> 1. Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] PackageKit testing
by Scott Reeves 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

PackageKit (and gnome-packagekit) 0.1.9.2 have been released into the factory channel. We are looking at looking at replacing the opensuse-updater-gnome-applet with the PackageKit updater for 11.0. Testers would be most appreciated. To test this 1. Install the packages from factory. This does not replace any existing YaST, Zypper, or opensuse-updater functionality, just adds the PackageKit apps. 2. Make sure the pk-update-icon applet runs and is available in the notification area when there are updates available (along with the opensuse-updater-gnome-applet). 3. Run a system update from the applet (which launches pk-update-viewer) or manually run pk-update-viewer There are known issues with 1. Handling license prompts 2. Generic failure message when dependency resolution fails - ie cases when zypper would prompt for manual dependency resolution help 3. Repeatedly jumping back and forth between the overview and the details view. Please report anything else. There are other apps in this suite and feel free to test these but the focus is mainly on the PackageKit system updater. Thanks. Scott. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GDM 2.21.9 test packages
by Hans Petter Jansson 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

GDM 2.21.9 test packages are now available from my home project. Hopefully it'll get built eventually, and when it does I hope it'll go as smoothly as it did on my local pod: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=gdm&project=home%3Ahpjansso… You may need an upgraded ConsoleKit too; I'm now providing one totally free of charge! https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=ConsoleKit&project=home%3Ah… Oh, and stay away from the glib2 I keep in that project... It'll run around the neighborhood naked setting fire to things. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] gnome 2.22 for opensuse 10.3
by Matthew Horsnell 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

I'm interested in helping in anyway I can to help bring gnome 2.22 to opensuse 10.3. Thanks Matt (matt2909 on IRC) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Volunteer Needed - Torrent Apps for 11.0
by JP Rosevear 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hi all, I was wondering if there was a volunteer out there to assess the various gtk/gnome torrent apps for use in 11.0. Specifically: 1) Bittorrent-gtk 2) gnome-btdownload 3) Transmission and come up with a recommendation. -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Main-menu performance
by Federico Mena Quintero 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Captain_magnus wrote a patch to improve main-menu's performance (bug #350662), and for some reason I missed it during the main menu bug week. I just resurrected that patch and took some timings. Before Magnus's patch: 12:27:46.0139 (user:0.0480, sys:0.0160) - Main-menu starts up 12:27:46.0356 (user:0.0520, sys:0.0200) - Migrating old configurations 12:27:46.0622 (user:0.0720, sys:0.0200) - Creating user interface for whole applet 12:27:46.0900 (user:0.1000, sys:0.0200) - main_menu_ui_new(): setup_bookmark_agents 12:27:46.1440 (user:0.1400, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_panel_button 12:27:46.1483 (user:0.1440, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_slab_window 12:27:46.1500 (user:0.1440, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_search_section 12:27:46.1511 (user:0.1440, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_file_section 12:27:46.1513 (user:0.1440, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_user_apps_section 12:27:46.2405 (user:0.2040, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_rct_apps_section 12:27:46.2596 (user:0.2120, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_user_docs_section 12:27:46.3416 (user:0.2520, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_rct_docs_section 12:27:47.0364 (user:0.8200, sys:0.0400) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_user_dirs_section 12:27:47.0562 (user:0.8400, sys:0.0400) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_system_section 12:27:47.0698 (user:0.8440, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_status_section 12:27:47.0973 (user:0.8640, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_more_buttons 12:27:47.0975 (user:0.8640, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): setup_file_tables 12:27:47.1001 (user:0.8680, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): setup_lock_down 12:27:47.1014 (user:0.8680, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): bind_beagle_search_key 12:27:47.1015 (user:0.8680, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): update_limits 12:27:47.1029 (user:0.8680, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): select_page 12:27:47.1031 (user:0.8680, sys:0.0440) - main_menu_ui_new(): apply_lockdown_settings 12:27:47.4668 (user:1.1600, sys:0.0440) - Showing all widgets in applet 12:27:47.4711 (user:1.1640, sys:0.0440) - Finished initializing applet After Magnus's patch: 12:52:55.8079 (user:0.0440, sys:0.0200) - Main-menu starts up 12:52:55.8126 (user:0.0440, sys:0.0200) - Migrating old configurations 12:52:55.8527 (user:0.0680, sys:0.0240) - Creating user interface for whole applet 12:52:55.8823 (user:0.0920, sys:0.0240) - main_menu_ui_new(): setup_bookmark_agents 12:52:55.9431 (user:0.1240, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_panel_button 12:52:55.9480 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_slab_window 12:52:55.9498 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_search_section 12:52:55.9509 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_file_section 12:52:55.9510 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_user_apps_section 12:52:55.9514 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_rct_apps_section 12:52:55.9515 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_user_docs_section 12:52:55.9516 (user:0.1320, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_rct_docs_section 12:52:55.9575 (user:0.1360, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_user_dirs_section 12:52:55.9577 (user:0.1360, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_system_section 12:52:55.9578 (user:0.1360, sys:0.0280) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_status_section 12:52:56.0105 (user:0.1560, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): create_more_buttons 12:52:56.0107 (user:0.1560, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): setup_file_tables 12:52:56.0109 (user:0.1560, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): setup_lock_down 12:52:56.0116 (user:0.1560, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): bind_beagle_search_key 12:52:56.0117 (user:0.1560, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): select_page 12:52:56.0122 (user:0.1560, sys:0.0320) - main_menu_ui_new(): apply_lockdown_settings 12:52:56.3112 (user:0.3360, sys:0.0480) - Showing all widgets in applet 12:52:56.3191 (user:0.3400, sys:0.0480) - Finished initializing applet I.e. startup goes from 1.16 sec down to 0.34 sec. And the patch is tiny! I think we all owe Magnus a big keg of beer :) Federico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME main menu bugs
by Alberto Passalacqua 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

> Votes make it easier to prioritize our fixing. We have thousands of > bugs, and not everyone might care as much about these bugs as you do. > It's that simple. Hello, I'm sorry to repeat myself for the n-th time, but I don't understand why the assignee of a bug doesn't answer to the bug report for example, independently by votes, when it's a lot of time some of those bugs are reported. At this point, marking those bugs as WONTFIX seems a solution too, at least closer to what's actually happening. The list of bugs at the beginning of this thread was written by me at least twice. I saw the bugs assigned for ages, without even a comment from the assignee, and of course without fixes. In the IRC channel I received answers like "we are waiting for the next version, then we will see if the bug is still there", but a bug usually doesn't fix by itself. The last comment I heard about these issues was from jpr, who said "I asked sreeves to revise them". From that time, nothing. I can vote for bugs, but it is pretty clear that a bug report regarding a memory leak of about 100 MB, a loading time of about a minute for an applet or a CPU usage of 100% are more urgent than, for example, resizing the menu buttons. Being the main-menu one of the applets characterising GNOME in openSUSE, and being loaded by default, it's basic common sense to try to have it without these issues, or at least to give an answer of what plans are in the box for it. Anyway, thanks for the interest in the thread I opened. We'll see what comes out with openSUSE 11.0. With kind regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Pattern Review Decision Time :-)
by Magnus Boman 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hello, The Pattern Review page[1] has been up on the wiki for a while now and there's been some comments. So we should move along and make some decisions. Note, this is not about packages to be added / dropped from the distro, but rather what packages that should *not* be installed by default. This will benefit us in two way; 1) We don't mess up the menus with applications that most people never use 2) The packages will not be on the 1 CD Install, leaving room for other packages to go in there instead Also, this is not about packages to be *added* to the patterns. There will be a separate discussion about that. The following packages are considered to be excluded from the patterns; pessulus sabayon gnome-commander vcdimager ncpfs pulseaudio-module-jack sox vcdimager zenity pan xournal gftp gnet If anyone has any objections, please let us know ASAP. Thanks, Magnus [1] http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Pattern_Review -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Agenda Items for April 3 Meeting
by JP Rosevear 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Let me have them. -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Pattern Review Decision Time :-)
by Magnus Boman 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Gnomies. So just a correction; gnome_admin and gnome_utilities is not on the CD, only the DVD. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Pattern Review Decision Time :-)
by Magnus Boman 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:33 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: > Am Dienstag 01 April 2008 schrieb Magnus Boman: > > Stephan, > > > > > > We have opt patterns that could be used I guess. Perhaps it's the way > > > > it works today but I *think* I remember that both the 1 CD and the DVD > > > > originates from the same pattern. I'm no expert on patterns so > > > > including coolo to see if he can clarify. > > > > > > It is the way it works today, yes. pessulus and sabayon are not on the > > > CD. > > > > rest_cd_gnome/requires => gnome > > gnome_admin/extends => gnome > > > > GNOME-ADMIN > > +Prc: > > alacarte > > pessulus > > sabayon > > =Prc: > > > > My understanding is that PRC will be installed. Is that not so? > > > Yes, but that does not mean that the pattern is on the CD. Only what gnome_cd > requires is on it. So that means that gnome_utilities and gnome_admin is not on the CD but the rest of the patterns on http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Pattern_Review are? > > Greetings, Stephan > /Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Pattern Review Decision Time :-)
by Magnus Boman 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Stephan, > > We have opt patterns that could be used I guess. Perhaps it's the way it > > works today but I *think* I remember that both the 1 CD and the DVD > > originates from the same pattern. I'm no expert on patterns so including > > coolo to see if he can clarify. > > > It is the way it works today, yes. pessulus and sabayon are not on the CD. rest_cd_gnome/requires => gnome gnome_admin/extends => gnome GNOME-ADMIN +Prc: alacarte pessulus sabayon =Prc: My understanding is that PRC will be installed. Is that not so? > > Greetings, Stephan (not subscribed, my mail will bounce) > /Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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