March 2008 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] GNOME:/STABLE/openSUSE_10.2 is missing the libssui dependency
by Hans-Peter Jansen 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hi, on trying to update my 10.2 installation to the current stable gnome BS packages, I stumbled upon a missing dependency: gnome-main-menu-0.9.8-120.7.i586 from gnome has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: libssui is needed by package gnome-main-menu-0.9.8-120.7.i586 (gnome) which is a bit unfortunate since, the available libssui package is in 10.3 only, which itself needs libxcb-render-util.so.0, which is in xorg-x11-libs from 10.3. As it looks, the gnome 10.2 build is busted. Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Yast-gtk package selector status
by Alberto Passalacqua 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

I have just seen some screenshots of the "new and improved" package selector. If I see some slight improvements, it's still far from what it should have been according to the original idea presented here: http://blog.sukimashita.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/martin-package-selec… This nice, good looking and feature rich proposal became the following in alpha1: http://www.decriptor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/packageselector1.png http://www.decriptor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/packageselector2.png http://www.decriptor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/packageselector3.png It definitely looks bad, and it doesn't seem to add all the functionalities YaST Software Management has in its Qt version. We discussed a lot about having a very similar interface on both desktop managers for YaST. This is not going in that direction, in my opinion, so it would be nice to have some clarification on the plans for openSUSE 11. P.S. Sorry for posting on two ML's, but the topic fits both. Thanks in advance, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Changing gconf default values without a patch
by Vincent Untz 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi, I'd like to propose a change in the gconf configuration we're shipping so that we don't have to patches schemas when we only want to change a default value. Also, I'll propose a new package to ship those default values. This can be interesting in many ways: + less patches :-) + easy to remove the opensuse policies (just remove a package) + easy to create another package to ship policies for opensuse derivatives + easy to get upstream defaults Here are the details: 1) First, we change /etc/gconf/2/path to add a new source for the defaults, between the source for systemwide customizations and the source for upstream defaults. It means adding a line like this: "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.distro.defaults" 2) Instead of patching schemas files to change the defaults, we create files for those changes and we'll have them installed in a gconf-y way in this new /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.distro.defaults 3) Instead of shipping those new files in each package, we create a gnome-policy-openSUSE package that will ship them I'm not 100% sure we want step 3, but it might be nice. The first two steps should be good, though. What do you think? (Credits: it's implemented this way in Debian) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Remembering the Milk...
by Bryen 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

A little but healthy discussion ensued today during our weekly GNOME team meeting about the continued use of RTM for managing our team tasks. While there were convincing arguments in favor of returning to the Wiki, there weren't much in favor of keeping RTM. However, we were mindful of the fact that Boyd wasn't present at the time and any consensus-building wouldn't be fair without first hearing Boyd's arguments in favor of RTM. We're sure he has valid points. To bring Boyd up to speed before he posts his statements and we all respond in kind (yes be kind!), here's a summary.of what was discussed. - Some people feel its not comfortable to use - Some feel separating it out from the wiki isn't a good idea and everything should stay local - Some newcomers have pointed out the problem of having to get properly "accountified" whenever joining new groups or jobs. - RTM offers benefits that the Wiki doesn't, such as email notifications, etc. - Tasky may effectively resolve some of the confusing unweildy uses of RTM - (My additional thought) If we all get on Tasky, since its a new product, we're simultaneously offering ourselves as good testers of Tasky, thus killing two birds with one stone. So... Thoughts? Discussions? Starting with Boyd please... Thanks, -- ---Bryen--- Let's rejoice a "There are no dumb questions" culture. But I really need you to have a "No dumb answers" policy before I answer your question. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] twitux packaged for opensuse
by Justin Haygood 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

I just flexed my building skills and packaged twitux for openSUSE 10.3. According to build.opensuse.org, it won't build on factory tho :(. One-Click URL: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jhaygood/openSUSE_10.3/twit… If you want to help port it to run on factory, be my guest (send me the diffs, and i'll upload them to my home project). I would also like to propose this for GNOME:Community if possible. I'll maintain it to the best of my ability (including trying to get it building on FACTORY eventually) Thanks, Justin Haygood -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Agenda Items for March 13
by Magnus Boman 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

Hello! I've created next weeks meeting agenda on http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080313 The following items are on the list; * Introduction * Themed meeting - Build Service * Factory testing discussion (everyone) * File chooser hackweek update (federico) * Bug day update (lakhil) * Compiz/Xgl Config Update (hpj) * PackageKit Update (sreeves) * Patch Upstreaming Update (rodrigo) * Task Update (suseROCKS) * Decide on Policy Review Days (2 days to give everyone a chance to participate?) * Decide on Pattern Review Days (2 days to give everyone a chance to participate?) * Q&A Feel free to discuss and modify as needed. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Tasky 0.1.4 Release
by Boyd Timothy 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

Hey everyone, Just wanted to let you all know that Tasky 0.1.4 is now available. You can download it here: http://tasky.googlecode.com/files/tasky-0.1.4.tar.gz Tasky Project Page: http://code.google.com/p/tasky Tasky Mailing List: http://groups.google.com/group/tasky Version 0.1.4: * Added "Show Completed Tasks" preference. * Added user preference to filter what appears in "All" category. * Added drop-down menu to "Add Task" button for specific categories. * Added right-click on task for notes, delete, and edit. * Added basic note support when using RTM. * Added support for Evolution Data Server (EDS), Johnny Jacob. * Support for local-only tasks (SQLite Backend). * Fixed building without notify-sharp support. * Fixed ICECore Backend to build against Novell.IceDesktop.dll. We still haven't settled on a new name, but thanks to everyone who's sent in their suggestions so far. Also thanks for those who've reported issues (bugs) and suggested more features. We're hoping to make another release sometime next week once we've got a new name figured out. Please don't hesitate to email us or find us on IRC with quesions/patches/comments/etc. Thanks, Boyd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Gnome build system problems
by Will Stephenson 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

Hi all I'm trying to build NetworkManager from SVN on factory. I can't get autogen.sh to complete. I've installed gnome-common, automake, autoconf, libtool, intltool, pkg-config, gettext-runtime and gettext-tools, and still get the following error: (http://www.pastebin.ca/924656) wstephenson@gorse:/home/wstephenson/code/kde/networkmgr/NetworkManager-svn/NetworkManager-0.7.0> ./autogen.sh /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh checking for autoconf >= 2.53... testing autoconf2.50... not found. testing autoconf... found 2.61 checking for automake >= 1.7... testing automake-1.10... found 1.10.1 checking for libtool >= 1.4.3... testing libtoolize... found 1.5.26 checking for glib-gettext >= 2.2.0... testing glib-gettextize... found 2.15.5 checking for intltool >= 0.25... testing intltoolize... found 0.35.5 checking for pkg-config >= 0.14.0... testing pkg-config... found 0.23 Checking for required M4 macros... Checking for forbidden M4 macros... **Warning**: I am going to run `configure' with no arguments. If you wish to pass any to it, please specify them on the `./autogen.sh' command line. Processing ./configure.in Running libtoolize... You should add the contents of `/usr/share/aclocal/libtool.m4' to `aclocal.m4'. Putting files in AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR, `..'. Running glib-gettextize... Ignore non-fatal messages. Copying file mkinstalldirs Copying file po/Makefile.in.in Please add the files codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4 progtest.m4 from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/. Running intltoolize... intltoolize: 'po/Makefile.in.in' is out of date: use '--force' to overwrite I understand that most of the requests and suggestions in the output above are normally ignored - I get similar output when building on 10.3 successfully. I get the same result if autogen.sh is run with the args to configure. captain_magnus tried the same, with the gnome-devel pattern installed, and got the same result. Who knows the gnome buildsystem well enough to say what's missing here? TIA Will -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] RTM Discussion revisited
by Bryen 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

Earlier this morning (okay VERY early this morning for some of us) during our weekly meeting, we discussed and voted in favor of giving Tasky an additional week to test out before rolling back to managing our tasks on the wiki. Primarily, I wanted to ensure that we leveraged the opportunity to give Boyd some good feedback on Tasky before we abandoned RTM. Since that time, Boyd has gotten up at a decent hour :-) and we continued our discussion. One important thing that we didn't know about during our meeting is that Boyd already has newer versions of Tasky which has even better features for managing our tasks on RTM, including the ability to delete tasks and adding/managing notes. And I think he also was going to add the ability to assign tasks to other members (correct me if I'm wrong Boyd?) So, we discussed and decided we'd like to propose extending the 1 week grace period to 4 weeks. And at that point in time, we'll decide whether to keep RTM or return to the wiki. Can I get some votes here in agreement of this modified proposal? No, it is not a complicated voting procedure. No, I do not care whether you're a Novell employee or not. No, I don't care if you've signed the Guiding Principles for this vote. :-) Just VOTE! Understand one thing. The primary purpose of extending the grace period is to leverage this opportunity to give Boyd some real feedback on Tasky. I think it's a wonderful opportunity to use a "real-world" experience for feedback. Boyd, will you reply here with links to where everyone can get the latest and greatest version of Tasky and where they can post feedback? Thanks everyone! -- ---Bryen--- Let's rejoice a "There are no dumb questions" culture. But I really need you to have a "No dumb answers" policy before I answer your question. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME bug day , 7 March
by Akhil Laddha 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

(apologies for the short notice) Hi folks, We have planned for an another bug day on 7 March in #openSUSE-gnome, details at http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/BugDays/20080307 We are targeting 10.2 bugs and Munkii has already prepared a list of bugs which were filed against 10.2 and are still open.So overall we have 57 bugs including 2 critical,8 major,43 normal and rest minor. Please join us! -- Akhil Laddha <lakhil(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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