November 2008 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] Requesting authors for Sneak Peek articles
by Kevin Dupuy 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

Alright, it's time for some Sneak Peek love. I've penned out four article plans, but I'm sure we can come out with some more ideas, so fell free to add an additional article to this page: http://en.opensuse.org/Sneak_Peeks Currently, we've got: *Installation & administration *KDE 4 *GNOME 2.24 *Misc improvements Anyone interested in writing these articles? -- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy - openSUSE Member Public Mail: <kevin.dupuy(a)opensuse.org> Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays from the Yeaux! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME:Community status and plans to clean.
by Luis Medinas 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

Hi I think it's time to clean up G:C since 11.1 is about to be released and there are lot's of packages needed to be removed or updated. I Offer myself to update a few a discuss a few ones to be removed. Here's a list: abiword: Updated asio: Updated babl: Updated bakery: Updated banshee: Outdated, Banshee repo have always updated releases. billreminder:Outdated, upstream at 0.3.2 bluez-gnome:Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated brasero: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated byzanz: Updated comix: Outdated, upstream at 3.6.5 computertemp: Unknown conduit: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated dopi: Unknown drivel: Updated evolution-python: Outdated, Needs to be removed - Included in gnome-python-desktop evolution-sharp: Updated f-spot: Outdated (mono repo updated?), Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated galeon: Updated geany: Outdated, upstream at 0.15 gegl: Outdated, upstream at 0.0.20 genius: Outdated, upstream at 1.0.3 gimmie: Unknown, dead upstream ? gimp: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated gimp-branding-openSUSE: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated gnome-menu-file-browser-applet: Outdated, upstream at 0.6.0 gnome-themes-extras: Updated, 11.0 and Factory ship the same version (needs to be removed) gnome-themes-extras09: Unknown gnome-vfs-obexftp: Deprecated ? goocanvas: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated grisbi: gtk2-engine-cleanice: Updated gtk2-engine-murrine: Updated gtk2-metatheme-spheres-and-crystals: Unknown gtk2-theme-nimbus: Updated hamachi-gui: Outdated, upstream at 0.9.6 hamster-applet: Unknown hicolor-icon-theme: Updated ipod-sharp: Outdated, Banshee repo have always updated releases. jscall-sharp: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated last-exit: Updated libotr2: Updated librep: Updated libunique: Outdated, upstream at 1.0.2 libwebkit: Unknown link-grammar: Outdated, upstream at 4.3.5 mail-notification: Updated meld: Updated midori: Outdated, upstream at 0.1.0 (copy from X11:/xfce/ or /home:/ajorgensen) mitter: Oudated, upstream at 0.4.3 monsoon: Outdated, upstream at 0.16 (Factory needs upgrade ?) nautilus-image-converter: Updated ndesk-dbus: Updated, 11.0 and Factory ship the same version (needs to be removed) ndesk-dbus-glib: Updated, 11.0 and Factory ship the same version (needs to be removed) osmo: Updated ots: Unknown photoprint: Updated pidgin: Oudated, upstream at 2.5.2 (copy from /home:/ajorgensen) - Factory needs update ? pidgin-guifications: Updated pidgin-lastfm: Unknown pidgin-libnotify: Updated pidgin-otr: Updated purple-plugin_pack: Updated python-enchant: Updated python-goocanvas: Unknown python-gtk: Outdated, 11.0 and Factory ship the same version (needs to be removed) python-libgmail: Outdated, upstream at 0.1.11 python-nautilus: Outdated, Needs to be removed - Included in gnome-python-desktop python-notify: Updated python-setuptools: Updated python-sqlite2: Updated rep-gtk: Updated sensors-applet: Updated tangerine: Updated tapioca-sharp: Unknown tasque: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated telepathy-sharp, Unknown tomboy: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated totem-xine: Oudated, upstream at 2.24.2 transmission: Oudated, upstream at 1.40b1 vmx-manager:Updated vobject: Outdated, upstream at 0.7.1 webkit-sharp: Outdated, upstream at 0.3 (needs to be removed ? mono repo updated) xchat-gnome: Outdated, Needs to be removed/updated - Factory Updated -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.24 for openSUSE 11.0 - Fail?
by Magnus Boman 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

Hello, Just a quick update on the backporting of 2.24 for openSUSE 11.0. I'm not entirely sure that we should actually "release" this even if we fix up the few remaining build issues [2]. Reason for that is that we would have to maintain a separate xorg-x11-libs [1] package. This package currently have pixman built-in to it and the version in 11.0 is older than what's required. When we start working on the GNOME 2.26 upgrade for 11.2, we can also make it build for 11.1 straight away, making it much easier to maintain, and we will be able to detect these sort of issues early in the cycle and hopefully have it fixed relatively quick. Thoughts? Cheers, Magnus [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439019 [2] http://tinyurl.com/63m2qw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] LiveCD enhancements
by Magnus Boman 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

Hello followers :-) I apparently had a bug report[1] assigned to me which talks about enhancements for our LiveCD. Now, this will be to late for 11.1, but lets discuss it for 11.2. This is what's been suggested (my comments after each point); 1.- Remove Cheese and Add Xsane is more necessary the software to use the scanner it is indispensable for all office or home people want to use the scan immediately captain_magnus> I honestly think more people wants to have some fun with their web cameras than scanning documents, so I think we should keep Cheese 2.-Include tsclient or gnome-rdp this is very important for make a remote from other machine with VNC or RDP very very important have this software captain_magnus> This is possible already on the LiveCD thanks to NOMAD? 3.-Gimp This software is indispensable have this in the live cd and the installation for the users plz add this one to live cd captain_magnus> Personally, I can't even create a filled rectangle in GIMP and so, I'd suggest to see if we can fit sk1 on the LiveCD instead. 4.-Yast2 Add one function for save all files RPM are download from the repositories to make a cd with all updates and other software are installed to get all RPM and install then in other computers don't have internet or don't have a good connection this is very very very very important captain_magnus> This is (sort of) already on the LiveCD for 11.1, thanks to the new "service pack" creator. 5.-More performance for can run in computer with low procesor and low memory captain_magnus> Would be nice :-) Cheers, Magnus [1]: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=406603 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Moving packages from G:F to G:C/Contrib
by Vincent Untz 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

Hi, Since I'm waiting doing nothing, I'm looking at the list of packages in G:F and starting to look at what we could move to G:C (the goal being to have them in Contrib) -- or drop them. The criterias I used to create this list are something like: + is the project still alive upstream? + is it useful for that many people? For those wondering, I can see a Novell reason to move stuff (I guess it means less things to support for Novell), but also a reason for the community (less rules, so faster action possible). So, list of stuff: + all the galago things: we don't even know if it's still working (note to self: this includes gnome-presence-applet) + bakefile: it seems it used to be required by webkit, but it's not anymore? + bombermaze: old game. Old. Did I say it's old? But probably fun. + conglomerate: an XML editor. Not really developed anymore. + eiciel: an ACL editor. I thought nautilus does this now? + fyre: a nice app, but, hrm, not really needed by many people + g-wrap: something related to guile. Not used by anything? + gDesklets: I'm unsure there, feedback welcome. + gbrainy: cool game, but not sure why it's here. + giver: err, this didn't move lately, and last thing I heard about it is that it's not totally ready + glade: why do we keep the old unmaintained glade? + gnome-blog: handy I guess, but not for most people + gnome-commander: not a lot of people replace nautilus + gnome-reset: like gnome-blog + gnome-themes-extras: maybe? Depends on the themes in there, I guess + gnomeicu: most people will use pidgin or a telepathy-based client + gob2: tool for developers, but I don't think anything use it anymore + goobox: old sound-juicer competitor + gqview: we have eog + gthumb: a bit harder, but I think most people are happy with f-spot + libesmtp: needed by balsa (which is not in G:F, but is related to G:F) balsa is not that used, so a good candidate too (oops, libesmtp is required by kdump, so no) + libghttp: not used by anything? + libiptcdata: needed by gthumb only + libmcs: not used by anything? + mergeant: not really for end-users... + mozilla-bonobo: err. Bonobo? + tasque: is it still developed? Yeah, this is a big list -- better to be aggressive :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Killing glitz
by Vincent Untz 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

Hi, Some background can be found in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429280 I'd like to kill glitz support in cairo, and other packages using it. I'll probably do it this week, so raise your voice now if you don't agree. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.24 for openSUSE 11.0 - Fail?
by Suman Manjunath 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

>>> Magnus Boman <captain.magnus(a)gmail.com> 11/23/08 4:05 AM >>> > Hello, > > Just a quick update on the backporting of 2.24 for openSUSE 11.0. I'm > not entirely sure that we should actually "release" this even if we fix > up the few remaining build issues [2]. Evolution is one of these failing packages. It appears to have failed in openSUSE Factory too :-( I'll try to get that fixed ASAP. -Suman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] 11.1/11.2 Features
by Magnus Boman 22 Nov '08

22 Nov '08

Hello, So, with 11.1 just around the corner, now is a good time to start planning for the future. As a first step, can people please have a look at the 11.1 feature list [1] and mark completed entries. We can then carry the list over and start the discussion about what we want in 11.2. Cheers, Magnus [1] http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Ideas/11.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Extra launchers in System and Utilities categories
by Michael Monreal 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

Hi, is anyone working on reducing count of launchers showing up under the "System" and "Utilities" categories in the app browser? I just had a look myself because those categories are really cluttered beyond being usable, but I it doesn't really make sense to me. For example, why does the "Appearance" capplet launcher show up in "Utilities"? The Categories string is the following: GNOME;GTK;Settings;DesktopSettings;X-SuSE-Control-Center-LookAndFeel; In applications.menu it only seems to match on Category=Utility for the Utilities group... so how is this getting here? Same for about 15-20 other launchers... IMHO fixing this should get a high priority as the app browser is really getting unusable. Cheers, -Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Call for testers: gnome-user-share
by Vincent Untz 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

Hi, To fix https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=402048 (unable to receive files by bluetooth), I've quickly packaged gnome-user-share in home:vuntz:factory-playground (and submitted it to Factory). This version doesn't hard-depend on apache, and only suggests it (the relevant UI is hidden if it's not installed). It seems to be working fine, but since it's something we want to have in 11.1, some real testing by real people (no, it doesn't imply I'm not real) would help :-) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/11/20)
by Rodrigo Moya 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

Contrib and G:C update • Judging from recent ML threads, there's increased interest on Contrib • Discussion about G:C drops/updates/moves in G:C on the opensuse-gnome ML: • packages obsoleted by ones in factory (banshee, f-spot, pidgin, python stuff, tomboy, tasque) • other obsoleted (gnome-vfs-obexftp) • If no more feedback by Monday, all this will be done Promotion of GNOME within openSUSE 11.1 • Addition of opensuse-specific developer info to GNOME wiki (http://live.gnome.org) Wiki work • Wiki mockup updated soon • Icons are going to be difficult to pull off (tango icons) • Meeting agendas will get more attention Dropping/adding packages • Postponing this to the beginning of 11.2, too late to remove from 11.1 1-click install for 2.24 • Still some build problems preventing ymp creation -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Unassigned bug - who is the lucky winner (Evolution)
by Bjørn Lie 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=384116 is in need of some love/action. We diverge from upstream and this leaves us with a broken translation. /quote ------- Comment #4 From Akhil Laddha 2008-07-09 05:02:53 MST ------- I feel we should replace 'get mail' string with 'send/receive' as we have in upstream. If we keep patch only for distro then it won't get translated. /end quote https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=343916 has been marked as a dup, but it should be the other way around, since the latter is from 10.3 days. It's probably a 2 min fix, but nobody has touched it, hence nothing has changed. Bjørn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Next openSUSE-GNOME Team Meeting - 2008/11/20 17:00 UTC
by Bryen 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

The next openSUSE-GNOME Team Meeting will be held at 17:00 UTC in the #openSUSE-GNOME IRC channel. Time: 17:00 UTC Date: November 20, 2008 Where: Freenode Network IRC Channel #opensuse-gnome What to bring: Yourself and gifts for everyone in the channel. Later today, a new agenda for tomrrow's meeting will be posted. Please check the /topic in the IRC channel for the link and add to it as you see fit. Thanks! -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Libertarian Fonts in 11.1 GNOME
by Kevin Dupuy 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

In previous releases, users of the openSUSE DVD edition who installed GNOME were treated to agfa-fonts' Sans as the default font for the desktop. agfa-fonts have been dropped from the distro, as Liberation fonts have been determined to be a good replacement. I've been running the Liberation Sans as the default font for the desktop, and it does seem to equate to agfa-fonts. However, although Liberation is installed by default (with the DVD at least), I don't believe GNOME uses it by default. The problem is, that unlike agfa which replaced the Sans font included by default, Liberation adds another Sans, "Liberation Sans". Could we get the GNOME desktop to default to Liberation Sans by default, so our users won't have to be subjected to the "less-than-good-looking" Sans included now? -- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy - openSUSE Member Assistant Organizer, Louisiana Libertarian Party Public Mail: <kevin.dupuy(a)opensuse.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Moving packages from G:F to G:C/Contrib
by Dominique Leuenberger 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 19:35 +0000, JP Rosevear wrote: > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 23:01 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > If so, die. > > > + bombermaze: old game. Old. Did I say it's old? But probably fun. > I would say, move it to games. That's where I would look for a game ;) > > + gDesklets: I'm unsure there, feedback welcome. > > Move it. Anyhow gDesklets would probably require some major rework; it does not work with python3 (I think not even with 2.6 actually). On Factory, it does not start (bnc 440601) > > > + gbrainy: cool game, but not sure why it's here. > Move it to games? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/11/6)
by Rodrigo Moya 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Contrib and G:C update Contrib is getting renewal effort by yaloki Lots of issues (policies) need discussion (opensuse-contrib(a)opensuse.org) Anything not in OSS and stable enough is a good candidate for Contrib Some limitations already clear: • no packages that require updates in FACTORY http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib Promotion of GNOME within the context of openSUSE 11.1 "New app" series for the weekly newsletter on news.o.o being planned, one for GNOME and one for KDE Who volunteers for writing (1 per week, so with rotation we can do great) about some cool new app/feature being added that week? Dropping and adding packages libsvg and libsvg-cairo dropped this week glitz in the process of being dropped Galago stuff will be moved to G:C or dropped Is ntfs-config still of any interest? For others, see thread on opensuse-gnome(a)opensuse.org 1-click install of GNOME 2.24 for 11.0 Building not done, so not much progress here Next meeting agenda We need a 11.0 bugs review Using bugzilla for community tasks Contrib followup -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Unfinished business...(?!)
by Magnus Boman 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hello all, This email is a bit of a rant, which may (will) contain some factual errors, but it is an honest email, and any help on would be much appreciated :-) I just had a quick read back with regards to more or less important emails we send to this list and it seems that we're good at starting things, but not so good at finishing them... Some things come up more than once, but no decision (or progress) seem to be made, or at least none that is actually announced back to the list (and some are "completely forgotten"/"lagging"); A few topics; ============= G:C - Contrib Cleaning up the menus Dropping packages GNOME WIKI Update GNOME 2.24, One Click Update 11.1 Feature Review Keeping/Removing greeter We also seem to "forget" topics that we have talked about, due to people being responsible for those topics either didn't come along anymore, or they got busy with other things (discuss next IRC meeting topic etc). So... Regardless of "factual errors" above, I think we do need a way to track "issues" that are brought up. In the past, we tried to use both the WIKI and RTM, but neither of them worked due to either the admin overhead, or the fact that people must sign up and check one more site for stuff... My question is, what should/could we do to keep track of issues/suggestions/improvements etc so that 1) it's always kept up-to-date and 2) we can ensure that it's followed through... Sorry for the rant but... Currently sitting in "QLD - The sunshine state in Australia" and it's raining :-) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Dropping libsvg & libsvg-cairo?
by Vincent Untz 06 Nov '08

06 Nov '08

Hi, I've been wondering about those two packages: I don't think they're being used by anything, and I'm not really sure they're developped upstream anymore. Candidates for dropping? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Next openSUSE-GNOME Meeting at 22:00 UTC 2008/11/06
by Bryen 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hi all GNOME addicts, The next openSUSE-GNOME project meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-gnome IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-gnome) on upcoming Thursday: 2008/11/06 22:00 UTC. For an overview what time this is in different timezones, use: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=06&month=11&year=2… This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE-GNOME. Please review your topics on the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Current as soon as possible. Pascal Bleser will be present to hear our plans for G:C to Contrib migration. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with openSUSE either). Have a lot of fun .. Bryen (on behalf of the openSUSE-GNOME team) -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] gnome-patch-translation: changes of updating scripts
by Stanislav Brabec 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hallo. I just rewrote gnome-patch-translation supporting scripts. Purpose of supporting scripts: - get translations from LCN SVN - collect translations from patches in other packages - put fuzzy translations and pot files to LCN SVN Up to now, these script were dependent on internal tools. Now it may be started with only osc, svn and gettext being installed, so anybody can do an update. If you want to update, simply get the source and run attached scripts in order specified in HOWTO: ./update-step1-update-translations-from-lcn ./update-step2-update-strings-from-packages ./update-step3-upload-strings-to-lcn optional ./update-solve-upload-conflict ./update-step1-update-translations-from-lcn ... and submit package I hope that this works will allow simpler updating, which will not depend on me and my machine setup. It's already in GNOME:Factory and will appear soon in openSUSE:Factory. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966, +49 911 740538747 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Menus
by Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have simple question. Is XDG_MENU_PREFIX="gnome-" default in 11.1 or still not? PS: Sorry for asking here, but currently I don't have much time to sit on IRC channel. Wish you'll not be angry ;) . - -- Best regards, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkkP4acACgkQcLqbpHzJqIUDLQCgg0lH1jkML5FL+v+rlroKcN1Z LnAAnjM3ZDA5NJxGxwAUSJNYEaEf042f =tEU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Removing a few application launchers
by Vincent Untz 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Hi, Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing. Here are a few proposals: + remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one... + remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu... + remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet. + we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess. + hide epiphany bookmarks? (I know, it's not installed by default :-)) + I think Magnus also noted we had 3 launchers for search (beagle, gnome-search-tool and nautilus search). We should probably at least hide gnome-search-tool or nautilus search. (I see I have ghex installed -- is this installed by default??? Doesn't make sense to me) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Reviewing patches when updating a package to an upstream version
by Vincent Untz 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Hi, I just looked quickly at 6 packages (originally because of the patches marked as PATCH-NEEDS-REBASE), and I found out that 11 patches were "deletable". Most of them were still applied because the fix for upstream was slightly different (so they were not PATCH-NEEDS-REBASE). I think it'd make sense if we were a bit stricter when updating a package to a new upstream version: quickly checking if the patches are still useful would be nice :-) Sure, it's sometimes hard, but there are a few trivial patches (like "adding some #include") for which this is really easy. I know this is not enforcable (and I'm not sure we'd want to enforce this), but think about it :-) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Question about timeshift this week...
by Bryen 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

This week we're supposed to have our timeshift meeting which starts at 22:00 UTC. Now that here in the US we've had our timechange, and most of you elsewhere in the world have already had your timechange, 22:00 UTC occurs one hour earlier than before. Question: is 22:00 UTC for timeshift meetings still a good time for everyone, or do you prefer 23:00 UTC now? For reference, here's the actual time in your location: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=11&year=20… -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.24 on openSUSE 11.0 - "Progress report"
by Magnus Boman 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hello, I've been working on the weekend to get as many packages as possible to build. Had as many as 280 (out of ~360) packages building successfully. What I've currently have done is this; gtk2 =================== Add "Requires: pcre-devel" to the -devel package if suse_version <= 1100 Don't run "rm $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{_libdir}/gtk-2.0/modules/*.la" unless suse_version > 1100 glib2 =================== Add "Requires: pcre-devel" to the -devel package if suse_version <= 1100 Don't run "rm $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/*.la" unless suse_version > 1100 glitz2 =================== Don't run "rm -f %{buildroot}%{_libdir}/*.la" unless suse_version > 1100 gdm (Have not actually looked to closely on this one yet) =================== Don't require selinux unless suse_version > 1100 When it comes to pixman... xorg-x11-libs-devel is installed for every package we build. AFAIK, we can't "Obsolete" files in .spec, only packages, so building a separate pixman package will not work (unless you have some clever tricks up your sleeve). ATM, I copied xorg-x11-libs and only updated pixman in there. I also filed a bug (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439019) to split out pixman from that package. Still plenty of issues to sort out, but it's looking better and better... :-) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Interesting space saving trick for our packages...
by Magnus Boman 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hello, I was spying on Fedoras GDM package and came across something interesting: ======== # strip unneeded translations from .mo files # ideally intltool (ha!) would do that for us # http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474987 cd po grep -v ".*[.]desktop[.]in.*\|.*[.]server[.]in[.]in$\|.*[.]schemas[.]in$" POTFILES.in > POTFILES.keep mv POTFILES.keep POTFILES.in intltool-update --pot for p in *.po; do msgmerge $p %{name}.pot > $p.out msgfmt -o `basename $p .po`.gmo $p.out done ======== The bug mentions that for Evolution, the package shrinks by ~10%. If we're doing translations etc the same way as RH, it'd be worth looking at, since we could potentially fit more goodies on the LiveCD :-) Any takers? Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Dropping ntfs-config?
by Vincent Untz 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Le lundi 03 novembre 2008, à 01:46 +0000, Luis Medinas a écrit : > On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 02:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Are there some ntfs-config users out there? It seems to me like it's not > > really useful anymore since the goal of this small app is to let the > > user choose if he wants to use ntfs-3g for ntfs. But with the recent > > changes in the ntfs-3g package, I believe ntfs-3g will *always* be used. > > > > Can any ntfs user confirm this to me? > > Imo the goal of this application is to get a "easy" way to mount ntfs > volumes using ntfs-3g so i say this is a very cool application for > begginers. Well, ntfs-3g should be used now anyway when you mount ntfs (even when calling mount on the command line). Are you saying ntfs-config makes it easy to mount ntfs volumes, or to use ntfs-3g for ntfs volumes? If the latter, there's no use case anymore. If the former, I'm not quite sure how it's helpful -- but I didn't really use it... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Dropping ntfs-config?
by Vincent Untz 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hi, Are there some ntfs-config users out there? It seems to me like it's not really useful anymore since the goal of this small app is to let the user choose if he wants to use ntfs-3g for ntfs. But with the recent changes in the ntfs-3g package, I believe ntfs-3g will *always* be used. Can any ntfs user confirm this to me? Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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