Andrew, On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 09:29 +0000, Andrew Wafaa wrote:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:28:39 +1100 Magnus Boman wrote:

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Hello,

Just a quick update on the backporting of 2.24 for openSUSE 11.0. I'm not entirely sure that we should actually "release" this even if we fix up the few remaining build issues [2]. Reason for that is that we would have to maintain a separate xorg-x11-libs [1] package. This package currently have pixman built-in to it and the version in 11.0 is older than what's required.

When we start working on the GNOME 2.26 upgrade for 11.2, we can also make it build for 11.1 straight away, making it much easier to maintain, and we will be able to detect these sort of issues early in the cycle and hopefully have it fixed relatively quick.

Thoughts?

Cheers, Magnus

[1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439019 [2] http://tinyurl.com/63m2qw

As building 2.24 on 11.0 is problematic, and will require additional maintenance I think the best thing is to discontinue the effort. I'm not saying we give up, but we move forward. This exercise was a valuable lesson, and from my understanding if we plan properly we can have 2.26 and above backported with relative ease for future releases.

Thanks to Magnus, Michael and everyone else for trying. As there was a fair amount of interest in this topic from people wanting it to happen, I think a blog post is required to explain why/what and the path ahead. To do that though a consensus is required, thoughts anyone?

I'm with you on that one. I can write a blog post about the fail if you want to, but it'd be even better if you do it :-) To make it even more interesting, I started a new project where I'm trying to build 2.25.x for Factory/11.1 already. This is made possible mostly thanks to Vincent (vuntz). Again, feel free to launch a blog post about the "fail" and the new efforts that we're doing. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 13:07 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:

Le dimanche 23 novembre 2008, à 09:28 +1100, Magnus Boman a écrit :

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Hello,

Just a quick update on the backporting of 2.24 for openSUSE 11.0. I'm not entirely sure that we should actually "release" this even if we fix up the few remaining build issues [2]. Reason for that is that we would have to maintain a separate xorg-x11-libs [1] package. This package currently have pixman built-in to it and the version in 11.0 is older than what's required.

When we start working on the GNOME 2.26 upgrade for 11.2, we can also make it build for 11.1 straight away, making it much easier to maintain, and we will be able to detect these sort of issues early in the cycle and hopefully have it fixed relatively quick.

Thoughts?

FWIW, I think this is an interesting project, but I know I'll be unable to help with it. What is probably needed is to have people running the stable version of openSUSE to actually use those packages to detect what's wrong -- building is a first step, but it's not enough ;-)

well, if we have 2.25 packages for the stable 11.1 since the beginning, it would be a bit easier for us (novell employees) to help on this, since we should be able to test the packages very soon, and with probably more stability than running early Factory kernels and similar things. Of course, it would be great if Andrew and Magnus continued being the responsible for the task, so that we can make sure we start fixing issues as soon as we start adding 2.25 packages -- Rodrigo Moya -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org