September 2009 - openSUSE Testing - openSUSE Mailing Lists

MS7 - radeonhd - survivial package.
by Elmar Stellnberger 17 Sep '09

17 Sep '09

The Freedesktop group is currently implementing Plug and Play support for the radeonhd driver. This is basically a good thing. However it does not work yet as expected - my attached/internal screen stays black, my external screen is out of sync. The basic rescue action is to use framebuffer mode instead of radeonhd by copying /etc/X11/xorg.conf.install to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. However this will still trigger a regression since xrandr does not recognize my external monitor this way and hence no xinerama support is given. For the usage of xinerama mode or just for faster graphics rendering (radeonhd instead of slow framebuffering) you may want to downgrade you radeonhd from Milestone 7 to Milestone 6 so that it becomes usable again. I have created an own x86_64 - xorg-ancient repo for this purpose: zypper ar http://repos.elstel.com/xorg-anc Xorg-anc zypper mr -p 20 Xorg-anc zypper dup -r Xorg-anc As things look now it may come the way that there will never again be given good Xinerama support by radeonhd as Novell and the FreeDesktop group are planning to fully drop xorg.conf and all its configuration options. Preconfiguring screen orientation (left/right), screen size (font size!) and the primary screen is a task that can only be done by an appropriate xorg.conf. Alternative desktop environments will perhaps never present xrandr-workarounds to emulate some of that functionality. If you are interested in ongoing xinerama support (with full xorg.configurability) you should give your vote at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18592 and at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539004. **** Please let me know if anyone still has an i586 installation image of milestone 6! People using radeonhd will be thankful to have rescue-packages for Xorg. *** A copy of this message should be available at http://suse.elstel.com/radeonhd. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-testing] How to work in openSUSE Core Testing Team?
by Spencer French 16 Sep '09

16 Sep '09

Well we don't all have to be in every irc meeting, we could have the same meeting agenda in two different times suitable for different people and post logs on the wiki and discuss little points here on the ml. Personally I think it would make it much easier to arrange all this in irc since we can get a lot of back and forth discussion done very quickly. As far as how to spread ourselves that's what the meeting/s would be about, I am hoping based on our preferences we all spread quite even. But as I and some others have said I don't mind testing some areas I might not be interested in, just will have to see how it works out. So as soon as our availability schedules for meetings/irc are up in GMT on the wiki we can get regular meetings planned and make sure we all know what needs doing to help make openSUSE even better. Spencer Paul French Technical Support Engineer Email: spf(a)varndean.ac.uk Extension: 115 Please consider the environment, only print out this email if absolutely necessary This email, together with any attachments, (the document) is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any other distribution, use or reproduction of the document without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error please notify the sender, by email or by telephone immediately and remove the message from your computer without making any copies. It is possible for data conveyed by email to be deliberately or accidentally intercepted or corrupted. For this reason, in communicating solely by email, Varndean College is unable to accept any responsibility for any breaches of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. Varndean College will not accept any liability for contractual commitments made by individuals employed by Varndean College outside the scope of our business. Varndean College, Surrenden Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 6WQ Tel: 01273 508011 Fax: 01273 542950 For further information on Varndean College, please visit our web site at http://www.varndean.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Bug response time
by Larry Finger 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

I don't know if being a member of the testing team has any affect, but the response to a bug report that I filed yesterday at 16:00 MDT (GMT-6) has been breath-taking. The bug is that the NET install CD for i586 requires an i686 to run (Bug #538849). By 9:05 MDT today, the issue is essentially fixed. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 7 ready to test
by Holger Sickenberg 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Hi everybody, (late but better than not the announcement appeared) openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 7 is official announced now. It is available at http://software.opensuse.org/developer Please have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.2_dev before you start your installation. Further information on testing are available at http://en.opensuse.org/Testing I also attached the announcement mail from Zonker. Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks, Holgi

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openSUSE Conference 2009
by Holger Sickenberg 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Hi, I will be attending the openSUSE Conference September 17-20 (http://conference.opensuse.org/) and having a talk there at Thursday. Is there anybody out of that audience that will also be there? If so it would be a pity if we would not meet there. Best wishes, Holgi

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Wiki Page
by Gabriel Franco 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Hello all, Resending this message since we had a problem with the list. Best, Gabriel ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gabriel Franco <gffranco(a)gmail.com> Date: 2009/9/11 Subject: Wiki Page To: opensuse-testing(a)opensuse.org Hello all, I just created a Wiki page so we can start centralizing all the info there. Anyone with a Wiki account should be able to edit it. If you don't know, feel free to ask for help. http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Testing_Core_Team Let's starting filling it up! Best, -- Gabriel Fróes Franco Software Architect Zend Certified Engineer - PHP5 Sun Java Certified Programmer - Java 5 openSUSE Member openSUSE Testing Core Team Discover Freedom =============== openSUSE Linux http://www.opensuse.org OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org Netbeans IDE http://www.netbeans.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -- Gabriel Fróes Franco Software Architect Zend Certified Engineer - PHP5 Sun Java Certified Programmer - Java 5 openSUSE Member openSUSE Testing Core Team Discover Freedom =============== openSUSE Linux http://www.opensuse.org OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org Netbeans IDE http://www.netbeans.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-testing] New core testing team
by Spencer French 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

So things to work on as of now are a wiki for schedules, testing preference and smolt profiles, as well as starting to be in #opensuse-testing when/if possible, which is also I guess where we would hold the meeting?. So if we can get and see everyone's schedules on the wiki the quicker we can hold a meeting. Is there anything people think should be covered in this meeting?, short bullet points for discussion would probably work best. Wiki page is http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Testing_Core_Team. Spencer Paul French Technical Support Engineer Email: spf(a)varndean.ac.uk Extension: 115 Please consider the environment, only print out this email if absolutely necessary This email, together with any attachments, (the document) is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any other distribution, use or reproduction of the document without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error please notify the sender, by email or by telephone immediately and remove the message from your computer without making any copies. It is possible for data conveyed by email to be deliberately or accidentally intercepted or corrupted. For this reason, in communicating solely by email, Varndean College is unable to accept any responsibility for any breaches of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. Varndean College will not accept any liability for contractual commitments made by individuals employed by Varndean College outside the scope of our business. Varndean College, Surrenden Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 6WQ Tel: 01273 508011 Fax: 01273 542950 For further information on Varndean College, please visit our web site at http://www.varndean.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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New core testing team
by Spencer French 14 Sep '09

14 Sep '09

Considering images for m7 should be around now/soon I was wondering what other members of the team thought our plan should be for this far along in the dev cycle? And also what testing preferences each member has as well as available hardware so we can all have a rough idea of each others work flow. I have 2 desktop machines both x86/64 as well as a macbook pro (early 2009) and a newish dell laptop, so I can do resume/suspend testing of those models. As far as preference I am really interested in the kde desktop/yast/zypper and xorg, although of course I will help with anything I can. Also just as a heads up at work I will be posting from spf(a)varndean.ac.uk and at home from spencerpaulfrench(a)gmail.com. Please consider the environment, only print out this email if absolutely necessary This email, together with any attachments, (the document) is for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any other distribution, use or reproduction of the document without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error please notify the sender, by email or by telephone immediately and remove the message from your computer without making any copies. It is possible for data conveyed by email to be deliberately or accidentally intercepted or corrupted. For this reason, in communicating solely by email, Varndean College is unable to accept any responsibility for any breaches of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. Varndean College will not accept any liability for contractual commitments made by individuals employed by Varndean College outside the scope of our business. Varndean College, Surrenden Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 6WQ Tel: 01273 508011 Fax: 01273 542950 For further information on Varndean College, please visit our web site at http://www.varndean.ac.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-testing] New core testing team - suse.elstel.com
by Elmar Stellnberger 13 Sep '09

13 Sep '09

Hi everyone, I have recently been doing a lot of testing for * radeonhd - the os-ATI driver (upstreams, solely status report for OS) * the package management (zypper, YaST) * interested in testing Apparmor & SELinux; own development: checkroot Besides this I file most bug reports on diverse issues grub, bluetooth pairing, NTP, flashplayer for OS (OpenSuSE) - every problem that I encounter myself with Linux or that I am asked for by friends. Formerly I have been doing a lot of testing for KDE3; all of it at bugs.kde.org. However I have never really started to file reports for KDE4 because I thought that there would be simply too much to do and kept waiting for it to improve. As things are now there will still be a KDE3 repo for 11.2 (https://features.opensuse.org/306733) but it won`t be officially supported so I guess there is little sense in filing bug reports for KDE3. Regarding Gabriel Francos suggestion to report bugs for KDE/Gnome, I wanna recommend posting all of them upstreams and to only open up reports for OS if something heavily annoys or can not be done in time. As far as I am informed Novell only has 4 full time employees on KDE (Stephan Binner, Luboš Luňák, Dirk Mueller, Will Stephenson) - 20 testers for 4 developers will be too much! Regarding test for wireless networking I would greatly appreciate the support of kwlan, my favourite GUI-tool. However the last time kwlan has worked for me was OpenSuSE 11.0 (Bug 537159) so that I am directly using wpa_supplicant now. Initially I have been collecting some links for our test-work at opensuse.org/developer which however now has been replaced by a more comprehensive site. Nonetheless I personally prefer having the bare links (faster, more clear). That is why I have now put them online on my hompage: http://suse.elstel.com or www.elstel.com/suse - njoy. Regards, Elmar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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YaST2 Control Center Gnome doesn't start in M7
by Terje J. Hanssen 13 Sep '09

13 Sep '09

Among the confusing issues in 11.2 M7 i686 and x86_64 is that the YaST2 Control Center Gnome doesn't start from the menu or from command line: # /sbin/yast2 unknown option -S However, YaST2 modules as the software manager can be started from command line # yast2 sw_single Workaround: By the way, I prefere qt-mode for YaST2 software manager also in Gnome and added the package 'yast2-control-center-qt' Then the following commands work to start the control center and software manager respectively: # yast2 --qt # yast2 sw_single --qt Reference: This issue has already been reported as Bug 537470 agains Factory in Novell Bugzilla. There I just added the above as a comment #5 for M7 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537470#c5 Terje -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help(a)opensuse.org

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