Hello :-)
This list don't seems very active :-)
the way I work makes it difficult for me to attend IRC, I will try to
summarize my recent experience here.
I could have factory running on two (very different) computers.
The first, an old HP desktop, was empty. I couldn't find a booting
media so I installed 11.4 basic and them changed repos
("distribution/11.4" to "factory"). After this the computer boots - I
use kde. nearly no problem.
the other, I installed yesterday, was an acer one (netbook) A0751H.
The experience was quite exasperating, but probably mostly because
some buggy hardware/bios.
Must say, to be able to have several parallel installs I also
installed on it a new 500Gb hard drive. This drive was new for the
computer, but come from a dead laptop with Vista (no more working,
tied to the original hardware) and at least two 11.3 openSUSE.
At first time one of the openSUSE booted right away. The other failed
(and kept failing all along) because the disk was for some time
included in a big desktop with several disks and the fstab of this
11.3 version held some other disks, and also menu.lst and this 11.3
version always started in recovery degraded mode and was unable to
find it's own root (don't know why and wont ever know, this system
being now overwritten - it could be started with the manual grub
command line but not by the original menu.lst).
To make a long story short, I had to reinstall windows, choosed to use
windows 7 and from there on the computer always said "no operating
system" when trying to boot.
I could boot with the supergrub cd, but no grub install could boot
(nor the openSUSE extended partition one, nor a MBR one. I even used
updategrub (the wonderfull programm from please-try-again) with no
avail...
At the end of this day, far in the night, I could not even boot from
the USB dvd reader I used all the day. went to bed.
yesterday morning, no boot neither. Then I did two things, one of them
making all work:
* changed the usb connector for the dvd from left side to right side
* for this removing the usb mouse (there is only one usb connector on
the righs side)
after that the Hard drive booted normally and still find his grub
menu. Looks like if the bios tried to boot the mouse... stupid cat :-))
switching from 11.3 to factory.
Changing the repos to factory and running zypper dup issued so many
dependecy problems ("keep old library or uninstall yast", for question
example), I didn't accept that.
but installing 11.4 repos and making zypper up went well (after 3 or 4
hours download).
With this 11.4 running, I could fix the second 11.3 install to boot,
install 11.4 on the same way, then change repos to factory and install
factory.
My problems are probably related to the fact the 11.3 install where
very application loaded. kde *and* gnome, specially, as there is some
know incompatibility right now on factory.
Finally I have running kdm (kde do not connect, fall back to kdm),
gnome is running complaining it don't find gnome 3, xfce and lxde runs.
If you have any idea what I could test specially to be usefull? I
usually work on multimedia, but right now I don't have a packman repo,
so multimedia is limited!
jdd
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The Testing Core Team met on Monday, May 9 at 17:00 UTC. The main topic of
discussion was preparing for the upcoming openSUSE 12.1 release. We decided that
a Feature Test Plan needs to be developed. As the nature of the new features in
12.1 becomes clearer, such a plan will evolve.
We also discussed whether the TCT should be involved with testing of Tumbleweed
or Evergreen. As none of us are users of these two products, the general
consensus was that we should concentrate on 12.1 and not get officially involved
with these other activities.
Our next meeting will be Monday, May 23 at 17:00 UTC on our usual IRC channel.
This meeting was scheduled to occur after the release of 12.1 M1; however, that
event is delayed. I expect a short discussion.
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Hi,
the 29th openSUSE Testing Core Team IRC Meeting will be on:
Monday, May 23rd, 2011 at 17:00:00 UTC
Please use the following link to find out what that means in your local
timezone
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=23&year=20…
We will meet in the Channel #opensuse-testing on the Freenode IRC
Network. irc://irc.freenode.net/opensuse-testing
Please post your topics on
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing_meeting
Best wishes,
Holgi
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Hi,
the 28th openSUSE Testing Core Team IRC Meeting will be on:
Monday, May 9th, 2011 at 17:00:00 UTC
Please use the following link to find out what that means in your local
timezone
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Network. irc://irc.freenode.net/opensuse-testing
Please post your topics on
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing_meeting
Best wishes,
Holgi
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Hello,
Having had the need of some applications recently to discover they
don't work well, I feeled it necessary to test them more and more
early :-), so I decided to involve me a bit more in testing :-)).
This list don't seems to be very active and I'm completely disliking
IRC, so this post.
1) testing early
It don't seems to be easy to test factory now, so I wrote a page
explaining how I could. I'm completely lost with the new wiki, so I
wrote this on my own one, here:
http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.TestingOpenSUSEearly#sDoc.TestingOpen…
2) I have an account on testopia, but don't see really how I can use
it. For now it seems to me that it's mainly done for developper asking
for help for they own product, when what I try do do is structured
testing around a subject.
My goal right now is to test multimedia pattern contents (scpecially
the ones about video editing at large) and what I plan to do in the
next weeks is:
* identify the main multimedia applications. On the long term the goal
is to have a set of very well tested applications and others set in a
"second choice" list (on subjects where there are many identical
applications, like dvd authoring)
* test all of them
*-do they install
*-do they run (simply load and be able to start some work)
*- choose one and try to use it on real use, try to crash them
(usually pretty easy) and report for bug fixing, including upstream
this is not as easy as it seems, because many if not all of them rely
also on packman, and bugfixing between opensuse and packman is
tedious. Gladfully, several opensuse developpers joined also packman,
this makes things easier (with some funny messages like "closed as
invalid because it's a packman bug, but I fixed it in packman" :-)))
any comment appreciated :-)
jdd
NB: side note: all this began because I wanted to make video demos for
11.4, looked for apps, find them buggy, report and finally think it's
better to make this for 12.1 :-)
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Hi testers,
http://www.suse.de/~coolo/opensuse_12.1/ had planned MS1 for
2011-05-12 but I just talked to coolo and it appears, MS1 will be delayed.
Test results on http://openqa.opensuse.org/results/ currently show
problems with GNOME and KDE and factory-tested has not been updated
for a month because of such failures.
And next week will not see much change, because people will be in
Berlin attending LinuxTag.
See also
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2011-05/msg00067.html
Shall we have a small testing meeting next Monday anyway?
Ciao
Bernhard M.
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