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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Activity Journal
by Adam Tauno Williams 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

When I run gnome-activity-journal I see no events. Possibly this is because if I go to preferences / plugins I see nothing listed? Should I see plugins? Are they required? If so, where to they come from? /usr/bin/zeitgeist-daemon is running. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] kdm-gdmcompat
by Valerio Mariani 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

Dear All, I have been trying to use kdm-gdmcompat with the latest version of GNOME shipping with RC1: http://opensource.fsmi.uni-karlsruhe.de/projects/kdm-gdmcompat/ Essentially, the program listens on the gdm_socket that is usually used to comunicate to GDM, and passes the command to KDM. My goal is to use it to switch users when using Gnome as a desktop environment but KDM as display manager. Unfortunately, the thing is not working. If I look at the logs, no signal is received on the socket when switching user from the gnome menu. Since I find no documentation online, does anyone know if GDM 3.2 still using the socket to communicate? Thank you in advance Valerio -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Gnome 3 Themes
by Marco Calistri 29 Oct '11

29 Oct '11

Gents, Are following some very personal impressions and comments about current Gnome 3 Themes (desktop and gnome-shell) available for openSUSE (11.4 and Factory). IMO the default Adwaita is not a very nice Theme and its default settings are a bit ugly since the height of title bar is too big. For this I modified the standard configuration by following this very interesting article: http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html Then I switched permanently to Atolm Theme, which I like much more and I would like to find it as default on 12.1. The other detail I think is lacking for Gnome 3 is little availability for customization for Gtk+ Theme. In Tweak Tools-->Interface (for 11.4) settings we have just Adwaita and Raleigh, when we could have much more options and especially a way to install more Themes also through the Internet. The care of details for a Desktop Environment is the key users have to choose one brand in place of other and so far Gnome 3 (despite I like it and use as default) is a bit far to be as good as its predecessor. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 11.4 Celadon - Linux 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop x86_64 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MK-36 - GeForce Go 6150 Gnome 3.0.2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Pattern GNOME:3.2-openSUSE 11.4
by LisufasGnome3 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

Hi all, there is a pattern installations planned for GNOME 3.2 based on openSUSE 11.4 to create? GNOME 3.0, there is one in YaST schemes, similar to GNOME 3.2 provides, unfortunately, not yet. -- Grüße aus' m Schwabenland ↓ → Lisufa, der Linuxsusefan ↓ ################################## ********************************** ....::: openSUSE Member :::..... ************************************************************* Die 'SuS(i)E' sei mit euch, wo immer ihr auch seid .... *************************************************************

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?
by Richard Brown 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

It wasn't just me..thanks for all the help, especially Malcom, who put the work in to make sure the extension is actually enabled even though the first thing he'll be doing is disabling it for himself ;-) Really appreciated. >>> Vincent Untz 10/28/11 1:46 PM >>> Le vendredi 21 octobre 2011, à 14:47 +0100, Richard Brown a écrit : > I therefore propose adding gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu to our default patterns Thanks to Richard, this should now be done. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?
by Richard Brown 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

Hi All, During the GNOME 3.0 discussions at oSC, the issue of limited access to shutdown & hibernate commands came up during the session. I suggested the idea of using the gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu by default to give our users Shutdown and Hibernate alongside Suspend in their status menu. At the time, two valid points were made in the defence of keeping our GNOME 3.x installation the same as upstream To paraphrase, they were "Suspend by default makes perfect sense for laptops" and "The ACPI power button works and gives the user opportunity to shutdown" Based on this discussion, my suggestion was to look into the possibility of having the extension installed by default but only on desktops. Atri/badshah400 and others have been helping but this is proving to be rather difficult, with dirty hacks or purposefully causing package conflicts being the only two 'solutions' which should work, neither of which are any good. Furthermore, GNOME 3.2 has changed the situation - the power button's default behaviour is now to suspend, and unlike in gnome 3.0 there is no user-accessible way for this change. This means we are heading towards a 12.1 release with no easy way for our GNOME 3.2 users to shutdown or hibernate their machine. I therefore propose adding gnome-shell-extension-alt-status-menu to our default patterns Suspend will still be highly prominent, still available in the status menu and will remain as the default behaviour for lid close (changeable in tweak-tool) and upon ACPI power button (with no easy way of changing) Time is getting short so vuntz suggests we have a deadline of Tuesday to discuss this.. please say yes, or have really good arguments for why not! :) Richard Brown openSUSE Member (woo!) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Question: MimeType in desktop files syntax
by Nelson Marques 26 Oct '11

26 Oct '11

Hi all, The "MimeType" entry on desktop files should end in a ";" ? (according to rpmlint it should). What potential issues are we dealing with ? NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2
by Vincent Untz 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hey, People here might be able to test this too :-) It's also important to double-check that your hardware that isn't blacklisted is still detected as working for gnome-shell, btw. Cheers, Vincent ----- Forwarded message from Vincent Untz <vuntz(a)opensuse.org> ----- Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:24:35 +0200 From: Vincent Untz <vuntz(a)opensuse.org> To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome 2 Mail-Followup-To: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org Le mardi 18 octobre 2011, à 23:50 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit : > On 18.10.2011 09:50, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le lundi 17 octobre 2011, à 23:51 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit : > >> On 17.10.2011 11:06, Vincent Untz wrote: > >>> Le dimanche 16 octobre 2011, à 13:42 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit : > >> Having a "GNOME3_fallbackmode" kernel parameter does not seem too bad > >> for that as it will enable people to actually boot into their desktop > >> and it can easily found in /proc/cmdline. > > > > I changed my mind yesterday, and I'll likely add support for something > > like gnome.fallback=0/1. > > Cool. I believe this will be useful. I'd appreciate testing of the gnome-session-core package from home:vuntz:branches:GNOME:Factory: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/vuntz:/branches:/GNOME:/Fac… This contains support for the gnome.fallback=0/1 argument on the boot line, as well as blacklisting some hardware with regexps in this file: /usr/share/gnome-session/hardware-compatibility Currently, the Intel 830-865 hardware is blacklisted; it would need to be tested, though, as I don't have the hardware. If there's any hardware people think should really be blacklisted, then I need the output of "glxinfo | grep renderer". Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?
by Malcolm 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:40:36 +0100 "Richard Brown" <rdb(a)ccb.ac.uk> wrote: > >>> Malcolm 10/21/11 3:33 PM >>> > >Hi > >My vote is for No. Shutdown is still there via the alt key? > > My problem with this is, how are users (many of whom will be new to > GNOME 3.x) know to press the Alt key? > Hi We should add a note in the release notes about the 'alt' key, maybe add the cheat sheet link? https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet A sticky in the forum to this can certainly be added as well -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop up 1 day 1:08, 5 users, load average: 0.14, 0.21, 0.23 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09 -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop up 1 day 1:14, 5 users, load average: 0.06, 0.24, 0.26 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] alt-status-menu as default?
by Richard Brown 21 Oct '11

21 Oct '11

>>> Malcolm 10/21/11 3:33 PM >>> >Hi >My vote is for No. Shutdown is still there via the alt key? My problem with this is, how are users (many of whom will be new to GNOME 3.x) know to press the Alt key? >Why, all the shell extensions will move to be user based via the >sweettooth browser plugin and won't be installed system wide. > >Trouble is there is no time line for this to happen :( so in the interim >users will install, however the site may/may not be live by release >time. >My other thought was maybe if you decide to install that it's offered >as a pullin script like flash after the install is complete, might be >easier to remove from the patterns? >I guess we need to work out once the sweettooth plugin system is >available, how it would be installed...? I agree that sweettooth will change nature of plugins, and when sweettooth is available we will have to revisit this one I'm proposing this primarily as an urgent RFC to address a specific pain point we're going to have with this release I would like to think we will be able to find a better longer term solution going forward - such as re-exposing many of the power management/shutdown features to our users so they can easily decide what options they want when it comes to shutdown, etc. In the meantime though, I think without alt-status-menu we're going to have a lot of people viewing on GNOME 3.x negatively, and I'd rather avoid that given almost everything else about G3.x is awesome. > >-- >Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) >openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop >up 1 day 0:25, 5 users, load average: 0.30, 0.37, 0.30 >GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09 >-- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner(a)opensuse.org

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