August 2009 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] Suspend not working with Milestone 6
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

Just tried to use GNOME as desktop and hit a showstopper - suspend to ram doesnot work. ~/.xsession-errors contains: (gnome-power-manager:5239): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Couldn't suspend: failed to check authorisation: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.CheckAuthorization() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files Should I open a bug or is this a known issue? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7
by Andreas Jaeger 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

My ~/.xsession-errors gets spammed by: [Error 16:19:51.079] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7 [Error 16:19:51.079] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7 [Error 16:19:51.079] Could not load desktop item: libgnome-desktop-2.so.7 This seems to come from gnome-desktop-sharp2: /usr/lib/mono/gac/gnomedesktop-sharp/2.20.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/gnomedesktop-sharp.dll.config: <dllmap dll="gnome-desktop-2" target="libgnome-desktop-2.so.7"/> any ideas? Should I file a bug against mono? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Weekly News: Announcing Meetings via news.o.o
by Sascha 'saigkill' Manns 24 Aug '09

24 Aug '09

Hello Mates, i would just remind you, to announce meetings in news.o.o too. The thing behind them is, that we use an script for fetching news.o.o events automaticly. It would be great if we all have the events on an central place. Thank you very much :-) -- Sincerely yours Sascha Manns openSUSE Ambassador openSUSE Marketing Team openSUSE Build Service Web: http://saschamanns.gulli.to Project-Blog: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/saigkill Private-Blog: http://saschasbacktrace.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Request for help: updating NetworkManager
by Will Stephenson 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

I've found some problems in our NetworkManager that affect all clients. Most importantly, GSM mobile broadband seems to be broken NM-side. Any attempt to connect using factory NM and nm-applet hangs with: NetworkManager: real_connection_secrets_updated: assertion `caller == SECRETS_CALLER_GSM' failed OpenVPN connections fail too. These problems are common to both the gnome and KDE applets and I would hate 11.2 to go out broken. I would like to update the package (in a OBS branch) to git master to see if this solves it and is a net benefit. Raymond Wooninck and I have updated NetworkManager itself to 0.7.1 branch, but the assert remains, because it's in the use-modem-manager patch. Updating the patch to modem-manager master and making it fit NM 0.7 branch is possible but would probably be hard work and a maintenance burden. Fedora and Ubuntu are both shipping master in their autumn releases. What do you think? If this is not a Terrible Idea, I could really use gnome-packaging expertise here. There is some part of the NM/GNOME release process that I don't understand - git archive tarballs don't build, I took Ubuntu's package apart and stuffed its sources in our specfile but that doesn't build either due to a missing po/configure.in.in. How do I get a packageable tarball? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Monsoon/Transmission, Pidgin/Empathy, Gwibber, etc.
by Vincent Untz 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Hey there, So lately, we've been pretty bad at knowing when a decision was taken and executing it. During one of the last few meetings, it was decided to move to transmission, but the meeting was not well-attended. Luis, what is the end word? Same for pidgin & empathy. What was the decision here? Luis, I believe you were looking if the facebook plugin can work with empathy. Any luck there? Also, people wanted to push gwibber to factory. Is the version in Contrib working fine on factory? Can someone submit it to G:F, I'll forward it from there. James, maybe? I'm pretty sure we have other examples of stuff that we just dropped. Let's try to not do this :-) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Space on the Live CD
by Vincent Untz 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Hey, Just to give some quick information on some stuff I've been working on in the past few days. As some people noticed, we lost a few apps on the livecd for m5 because of package conflicts and because of size issues. I've been working a bit on the latter. Here are some notes. You'll see that you can help. Why this is important ===================== If we can remove stuff from the livecd, it means we can add something else :-) For m5, some packages were removed and we'd like to add them back. The list I have (not sure it's complete :/) is beagle, gnome-do, gnome-pilot, totem-plugins, xscreensaver, gnome-screensaver. Now, I guess the goal is to first try to put those packages back. But then, I'm pretty sure we'd all like to also have 4-5 new user-oriented applications on the livecd. If people have suggestions for those apps, then please share. How you can help ================ See below for more details, but there are three immediate tasks that could do with some help: + rewriting the smolt call in gnome-packagekit + splitting glibc-locale + splitting xscreensaver I can help a bit for each of them, but it's way more likely to happen if people step up ;-) Detailed notes ============== + we got rid of qt3 from there. It was only required by umtsmon, which was a workaround for 3G not working well in NM. + we removed yast2-qt and yast2-qt-pkg. The livecd should be fine with the gtk frontend only. + we removed python-opengl (quite big too). It was brought by a recommends from gnome-games (for the 3D view in the chess game). It's not needed at runtime, so we blacklisted it without removing the recommends. + Wolfgang is working on splitting the translation packages of xulrunner and firefox (they can't live in -lang packages, and therefore in bundle-lang packages because they're not noarch). With this split, we'll have a limited set of translations on the livecd (still a lot of languages, actually), but that should help quite a bit. See http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529180 + smolt has been split in smolt and smolt-gui. The smolt-gui part is the only part that requires python-qt4 (quite big). So we'll remove it from the live cd. But to do that, we first need to update the patch in gnome-packagekit that runs smolt on the first login to not use the gui, but a small helper. This is not hard to do and I can guide people there. => help needed + Sandy has been working to try to get rid of mono-winforms on the livecd. It's required by mono-web, which is required by various apps. + there's some work to split the debugging information from mono packages in the proper debuginfo packages. This should help quite a bit too. See http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528851 + we're trying to get rid of some not-that-interesting icon themes in OOo. See http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529404 + I'm splitting the support for tcl plugins in libpurple (pidgin) and xchat into subpackages. There are only three packages on the m5 livecd requiring tcl and tk: libpurple, xchat and python-openl. So this automatically should go away soon. + I'm moving the doc files from gnome2-user-docs (huge packet) in a proper lang package, so that they can be integrated in bundle-lang-gnome. + qt4 is absolutely big on the livecd. It's only required by yast2-qt (removed), smolt (via python-qt4, will be fixed, see above), and sax2. I started a thread on opensuse-factory to see if we could remove sax2 from the livecd. Apparently, it will stay for 11.2 :/ + glibc-locale is the biggest package on the livecd. I'm looking at splitting it in smaller chunks. Waiting for feedback from the glibc packager, though. I'd appreciate if people could step up and do this. => help needed + split xscreensaver. This package contains a huge amount of screensavers and, well, we really don't need to ship with more than 10-15 screensavers by default. Someone should create a list of recommended screensavers, and then we could split the packages. => help needed Finding more space to save ========================== I'm sure more could be done. Just boot on the livecd, and look at the list of packages. You can also sort the list of packages by size with: rpm -qa --qf '%{size} %{name}\n' | sort -nr Keep in mind that it's the installed size, and not the compressed size. To get an overview of the compressed size, you can look at /var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE-Factory/suse/setup/descr/packages.gz Just open it, look for "=Pkg: gnome2-user-docs", eg, and then at the end of the section for this package, you have a line looking like "=Siz: 11194787 29571127" which contains the packet size and the installed size. The strategy is to look at what is at the top of the list of packages (when sorted per size) and see how we can shave this a bit. A good example is that samba-client is absolutely huge. Is this normal? Someone could investigate. Also, to see what requires a package on the livecd, just run "rpm --test -e $pkg" from the livecd. You'll miss Recommends (you can find them in /var/cache/zypp/raw/openSUSE-Factory/suse/setup/descr/packages.gz), but that's a good start. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Ops, I did it again...
by Magnus Boman 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

Hello. Ops, we did it again... My apologies that we're sometimes a bit concentrated on packages and package updated on this list. It'd be great to change that and get everyone involved... If you read this, please let us know about...: 1. What's your primary interest for reading this mailing list 2. In which "box" would you put yourself in (more than one is ok, and add your own if we're missing a box) [ ] Developer [ ] Packages [ ] End user [ ] Alcoholic [ ] Bryen [ ] WIKI [ ] Translator [ ] Stalker [ ] Bug reporter (See Stalker :-)) [ ] None of the above [ ] All of the above 3. What could / should we talk about more on this list 4. Apart from 1, 2 and 3, what should / could we do to get YOU more involved? Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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