April 2008 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] My Torrent Observations
by Bryen 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Ok, Over the weekend I had the chance to examine Transmission and Monsoon from a "new to torrents" perspective. IF we can include both, great. If we have to decide on only one, I would side with Monsoon. The reason being, it is reasonably easy to understand it and it has greater options making it an excellent choice for the newbie who graduates to more advanced user, without having to go to another application. -- ---Bryen--- Let's rejoice a "There are no dumb questions" culture. But I really need you to have a "No dumb answers" policy before I answer your question. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Main-menu performance summary
by Federico Mena Quintero 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

Good news! On cold startup, main-menu went from taking 24.4 seconds to start up, to taking 4.6 seconds. On warm startup, it went from taking about 1.88 seconds to start up, to taking about 0.26 seconds. This is on my machine, a Thinkpad with a slow hard drive and about 860 entries in my ~/.recently-used.xbel. This is what Magnus and I did during the week: * Add some checkpointing to main-menu and libslab to get timestamps at interesting places in the code. * Avoid loading tile tables more often than needed. This makes startup and general operation faster. * Avoid loading the recently-used store during startup; do it when the Computer menu pops up. This makes startup faster. * Avoid loading the recently-used store twice. Makes the Computer menu pop up faster. * Avoid reading thumbnails twice for all the document tiles. Makes the Computer memu pop up faster. * Load expensive/global stuff during the idle time between the applet's startup and the time when the user brings up the Computer menu. This reduces both startup time and the popup time for the Computer menu, *and* lets us use idle time effectively right after startup. * Updates to the main-menu's contents, when the recently-used files change, are now throttled. This will reduce CPU burn in general. All of this code is in SVN trunk right now, and in our package for openSUSE 11.0. I didn't submit it upstream for gnome-2-22, since I don't want the changes in libslab to break anything (nothing should break, but hey). I'll submit the patches for openSUSE 10.3 after fixing up the patch for that version, and after going through the internal procedure to request an online update :) Enjoy, Federico and Captain_Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Request: Add FileZilla as default FTP client, instead of gFtp
by Nagappan A 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hi, In package list, Add FileZilla as the default FTP client, instead of gFtp. Thanks Nagappan -- Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org http://nagappanal.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GDM 2.20 for openSUSE 11.0
by Hans Petter Jansson 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

After weeks of indecision (or, as I like to put it, consideration), I've determined that we'd better stick with GDM 2.20 for openSUSE 11.0. We will not be shipping the to-be-released GDM 2.22. Thanks to everyone who chipped in leading to this conclusion. Reasons for this include: - Significant risk of breakage due to insufficient testing. It's late in the cycle to be including GDM 2.22, but we couldn't have done it earlier because the upstream code wasn't mature enough. - Greatly reduced configurability. It's not clear how this will affect deployments. - Rapidly changing code base. It will be hard to maintain patches against it for a while yet. - Reduced theming potential. It won't look as good. - Few short-term benefits. While increased testing is important, it could spoil an otherwise excellent release for GNOME - and I think we deserve such a good release this time around. - GDM 2.20 will be supported upstream for a long time still. We'll consider GDM 2.22 for openSUSE 11.1 and hopefully we'll be able to include it then. In the meantime, we'll maintain GDM 2.22 in the build service (probably in GNOME:UNSTABLE) and I'll try to keep it in a state that's compatible with openSUSE 11.0, so those who want to can run it. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Package Drops
by JP Rosevear 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

To wrap up the discussion, Dropped: at-poke gnome-keyring-manager Kept: contact-lookup-applet (as discussed in meeting) glade2 (not quite as discussed, but upon further thought, lets keep for one more release because of massive xml alterations) -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME main menu bugs
by Alberto Passalacqua 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Hello, looking at bugzilla, I found various bugs regarding gnome-main-menu which are still open, and that would be wonderful to see solved/closed before the release of 11.0, especially those about memory leaks and loading delays. The following bugs have been already assigned: * Bug 338024 - main-menu uses a lot of cpu resources (Assignee: Federico) * Bug 194880 - Main Menu too large and can't resize when using lower monitor screen resolutions (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 184520 - Gnome menu locks when opening complex Excel files through shares (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 310710 - cropped gnome-main-menu icon and label (Assignee: Federico) * Bug 255732 - GNOME-Main-Menu: Add to Favorites Behavior Inconsistent (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 247906 - The buttons on the gnome-main-menu are too big. (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) * Bug 328838 - Sorting apps in SLAB doesn't work (Assignee: bnc-team-gnome) The following are still marked as new, even though many have been assigned: * Bug 348183 - gnome-main-menu startup time > 1min + 100% CPU * Bug 343725 - gnome-main-menu - rename or remove items does not work * Bug 338515 - In main gnome menu application must don't duplicated * Bug 362974 - "Computer" on main menu seems to ignore fast clicks * Bug 343917 - Main-Menu overlaps Orca's screen magnifier * Bug 362953 - gnome-main-menu high CPU usage on opening multiple files in Nautilus * Bug 352120 - strangely big main-menu * Bug 356624 - main-menu / multi-display ... * Bug 328122 - gnome-main-menu and keyboard navigation * Bug 336735 - Slab and Intlclock always show on display :0.0 in TwinView/Non-Xinerama * Bug 187876 - Main Menu - Recent Documents list includes files that do not exist * Bug 364186 - Main menu leaks again Regards, Alberto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/04/03)
by Rodrigo Moya 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Introduction People want to discuss building more community members and contributions JP out next week AI: schedule community contribution discussion April 17 Factory testing Usual round of updates this week Bad kernel update bug is fixed No wireless at all for some people (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=376742) Missing esound problem, will be fixed with a Provides:esound in pulseaudio Other testing requests: xdg-user-dirs-gtk, packagekit, gdm Google Summer of Code We have a bunch of applications AI: Federico to bring plan for accepting applications to opensuse-project AI: federico1 to ensure we accept GSoC applications properly before deadline Torrent default app decision Monsoon seems the more dynamic app, good response from its maintainer Transmission seems to have a better UI, actively developed, although a bit mac centric BitTorrent-gtk very basic but should work for basic needs AI: add both monsoon and transmission, monsoon as default AI: suseROCKS to run tests with both apps AI: FunkyPenguin to package Transmission today AI: vuntz to move Transmission and monsoon to autobuild and drop gnome-btdownload Policy review http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Desktop_Policy contains a huge table with the gconf keys we change Once completed, we'll discuss every change AI: vuntz, rodrigo to define new policy patch tags Wishlist review Please respond to the thread, especially in the case of any new packages that might be needed Pattern review After discussion on the list, we should be able to compile a list of packages to be dropped from the CD pattern For base patterns, bring up discussion on opensuse-factory Main menu performance work Magnus' 3-liner patch shrinks main-menu startup time by more than half Main-menu is reading ~/.recently-used.xbel twice at startup, should be easy to fix and reduce time by 0.1 sec more Now starting up in under 1.5 seconds GDM status GDM not shipped in GNOME 2.22 is now up to 2.21.9, should be ready for 11.0 Test packages at https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home:hpjansson:11.0-testing (might need the ConsoleKit package from that repo also) Some configurability regressions still present, might be a problem for deployments Background image + gtkrc for login dialog for basic theming Compiz/XGL update 'Enable desktop effects' option in appearance capplet now in FACTORY Discussion upstream for a distro-agnostic fix, but will take some time Need to decide on dropping gnome-xgl-settings once the functionality to switch XGL/AIGLX is in yast AI: vuntz to hack something quickly in gnome-wm to start the correct WM in all cases (ie when the session is not saved) PackageKit update PK testing info is on the wiki now (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/11.0/Testing) Test it and let Scott know of any problems Patch upstreaming Not much progress this week because of package review, but some upstreamed patches were removed this week, so number of patches continues going down 756 patches still remaining as of today Task update suseROCKS will send confirmation for tasks when moving off RTM to wiki Should we continue including task updates in the meetings? It should be already covered in each topic -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME Meeting Thursday April 3rd at 8am EDT/12:00 UTC
by JP Rosevear 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Greetings GNOME/openSUSE lovers, the GNOME team will be holding its next meeting this Thursday at 12:00 UTC (14:00 in europe). This is our monthly time shift meeting and clocks have changed recently, so please check the times carefully. World times for the meeting at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=3&month=04&year=20… Last meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080327 Next meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20080403 Calendar of all meetings: webcal://news.opensuse.org/?ec3_ical Meeting info: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings Tasks: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Tasks -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> 1. Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] PackageKit testing
by Scott Reeves 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

PackageKit (and gnome-packagekit) 0.1.9.2 have been released into the factory channel. We are looking at looking at replacing the opensuse-updater-gnome-applet with the PackageKit updater for 11.0. Testers would be most appreciated. To test this 1. Install the packages from factory. This does not replace any existing YaST, Zypper, or opensuse-updater functionality, just adds the PackageKit apps. 2. Make sure the pk-update-icon applet runs and is available in the notification area when there are updates available (along with the opensuse-updater-gnome-applet). 3. Run a system update from the applet (which launches pk-update-viewer) or manually run pk-update-viewer There are known issues with 1. Handling license prompts 2. Generic failure message when dependency resolution fails - ie cases when zypper would prompt for manual dependency resolution help 3. Repeatedly jumping back and forth between the overview and the details view. Please report anything else. There are other apps in this suite and feel free to test these but the focus is mainly on the PackageKit system updater. Thanks. Scott. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GDM 2.21.9 test packages
by Hans Petter Jansson 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

GDM 2.21.9 test packages are now available from my home project. Hopefully it'll get built eventually, and when it does I hope it'll go as smoothly as it did on my local pod: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=gdm&project=home%3Ahpjansso… You may need an upgraded ConsoleKit too; I'm now providing one totally free of charge! https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=ConsoleKit&project=home%3Ah… Oh, and stay away from the glib2 I keep in that project... It'll run around the neighborhood naked setting fire to things. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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