November 2008 - openSUSE GNOME - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-gnome] Menus
by Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have simple question. Is XDG_MENU_PREFIX="gnome-" default in 11.1 or still not? PS: Sorry for asking here, but currently I don't have much time to sit on IRC channel. Wish you'll not be angry ;) . - -- Best regards, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkkP4acACgkQcLqbpHzJqIUDLQCgg0lH1jkML5FL+v+rlroKcN1Z LnAAnjM3ZDA5NJxGxwAUSJNYEaEf042f =tEU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Removing a few application launchers
by Vincent Untz 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Hi, Looking at the my applications menu (or at the application browser), I can see many items which are just cluttering the whole thing. Here are a few proposals: + remove a few evolution items: - agenda - address book - task list We can keep "Mail and Calendar" in Office and probably "Mail" in Internet. Although I'd love to keep only the first one... + remove eye of GNOME? Do people really manually start eog? It's a bit like evince, which doesn't appear in the menu... + remove most of the pulseaudio launchers. They're mostly confusing. It might make sense to keep the PA preferences. We also need to hide the launcher for the standard volume control app if we use the pulseaudio one. I'm actually wondering if we need to keep the launcher for volume control since the way to access this should be the applet. + we have lots of control center stuff appearing in System and Utilities. We should fix this, I guess. + hide epiphany bookmarks? (I know, it's not installed by default :-)) + I think Magnus also noted we had 3 launchers for search (beagle, gnome-search-tool and nautilus search). We should probably at least hide gnome-search-tool or nautilus search. (I see I have ghex installed -- is this installed by default??? Doesn't make sense to me) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Reviewing patches when updating a package to an upstream version
by Vincent Untz 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Hi, I just looked quickly at 6 packages (originally because of the patches marked as PATCH-NEEDS-REBASE), and I found out that 11 patches were "deletable". Most of them were still applied because the fix for upstream was slightly different (so they were not PATCH-NEEDS-REBASE). I think it'd make sense if we were a bit stricter when updating a package to a new upstream version: quickly checking if the patches are still useful would be nice :-) Sure, it's sometimes hard, but there are a few trivial patches (like "adding some #include") for which this is really easy. I know this is not enforcable (and I'm not sure we'd want to enforce this), but think about it :-) Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Question about timeshift this week...
by Bryen 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

This week we're supposed to have our timeshift meeting which starts at 22:00 UTC. Now that here in the US we've had our timechange, and most of you elsewhere in the world have already had your timechange, 22:00 UTC occurs one hour earlier than before. Question: is 22:00 UTC for timeshift meetings still a good time for everyone, or do you prefer 23:00 UTC now? For reference, here's the actual time in your location: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=6&month=11&year=20… -- Bryen Yunashko openSUSE Board Member -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME 2.24 on openSUSE 11.0 - "Progress report"
by Magnus Boman 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hello, I've been working on the weekend to get as many packages as possible to build. Had as many as 280 (out of ~360) packages building successfully. What I've currently have done is this; gtk2 =================== Add "Requires: pcre-devel" to the -devel package if suse_version <= 1100 Don't run "rm $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{_libdir}/gtk-2.0/modules/*.la" unless suse_version > 1100 glib2 =================== Add "Requires: pcre-devel" to the -devel package if suse_version <= 1100 Don't run "rm $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/*.la" unless suse_version > 1100 glitz2 =================== Don't run "rm -f %{buildroot}%{_libdir}/*.la" unless suse_version > 1100 gdm (Have not actually looked to closely on this one yet) =================== Don't require selinux unless suse_version > 1100 When it comes to pixman... xorg-x11-libs-devel is installed for every package we build. AFAIK, we can't "Obsolete" files in .spec, only packages, so building a separate pixman package will not work (unless you have some clever tricks up your sleeve). ATM, I copied xorg-x11-libs and only updated pixman in there. I also filed a bug (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439019) to split out pixman from that package. Still plenty of issues to sort out, but it's looking better and better... :-) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Interesting space saving trick for our packages...
by Magnus Boman 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hello, I was spying on Fedoras GDM package and came across something interesting: ======== # strip unneeded translations from .mo files # ideally intltool (ha!) would do that for us # http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474987 cd po grep -v ".*[.]desktop[.]in.*\|.*[.]server[.]in[.]in$\|.*[.]schemas[.]in$" POTFILES.in > POTFILES.keep mv POTFILES.keep POTFILES.in intltool-update --pot for p in *.po; do msgmerge $p %{name}.pot > $p.out msgfmt -o `basename $p .po`.gmo $p.out done ======== The bug mentions that for Evolution, the package shrinks by ~10%. If we're doing translations etc the same way as RH, it'd be worth looking at, since we could potentially fit more goodies on the LiveCD :-) Any takers? Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Dropping ntfs-config?
by Vincent Untz 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Le lundi 03 novembre 2008, à 01:46 +0000, Luis Medinas a écrit : > On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 02:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Are there some ntfs-config users out there? It seems to me like it's not > > really useful anymore since the goal of this small app is to let the > > user choose if he wants to use ntfs-3g for ntfs. But with the recent > > changes in the ntfs-3g package, I believe ntfs-3g will *always* be used. > > > > Can any ntfs user confirm this to me? > > Imo the goal of this application is to get a "easy" way to mount ntfs > volumes using ntfs-3g so i say this is a very cool application for > begginers. Well, ntfs-3g should be used now anyway when you mount ntfs (even when calling mount on the command line). Are you saying ntfs-config makes it easy to mount ntfs volumes, or to use ntfs-3g for ntfs volumes? If the latter, there's no use case anymore. If the former, I'm not quite sure how it's helpful -- but I didn't really use it... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Dropping ntfs-config?
by Vincent Untz 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hi, Are there some ntfs-config users out there? It seems to me like it's not really useful anymore since the goal of this small app is to let the user choose if he wants to use ntfs-3g for ntfs. But with the recent changes in the ntfs-3g package, I believe ntfs-3g will *always* be used. Can any ntfs user confirm this to me? Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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