Hello: I represent the RenoTahoe Perl Users' Group, which is undertaking in
a coordinated effort with others, to create and provide a model for schools
wishing to add computers and educational software to their schools' assets.
You may have been exposed to some similar programs in the past, and, with
that in mind, I would like the opportunity to meet and discuss some of your
experiences. This is an informational interview request, and I would like to
keep the discussion within such a framework, if possible.
It is our goal to build a model that will be available to others to follow,
and is comprised of information on how to obtain computers, what steps to
take to install and maintain quality educational software that does not
require licensing fees, and how to attract a 24X7 Team of volunteer technical
support staff. Such a model will provide schools with truly state-of-the-art
Operating Systems, software, and even hardware in most cases. Cost is to be
held to $0.00 for the schools, with only volunteer time and effort involved.
In return, the model imposes a responsibility on the recipients to share
their knowledge and experience with other schools, in order to "spread the
Please respond to this request by sending a reply with a date and time which
would be convenient for you. I will open my schedule to fit yours. The
meeting should only take 10 to 15 minutes, if that's alright [sic]?
Here are a few things that I would like to see from the Linux community
as an educator.
1. A strong comittment from the Linux bigboys (SuSe, Redhat, and Xandros
(Corel). I think that in order to make inroads into the educational
community they are going to have to provide professional development
opportunites for the regular classroom teacher. A teacher will use
materials provided if they can deliver services to their students in a
fast and effecient manner. Our time is very valuable during the school
year, we need trained professional service and we don't care if it comes
from M$ of Linux.
1. We need applications for our students (I've seen some already). It
has to be cosmetically enhanced in order keep the attention of frequent
video game players.
3. Teacher utility software.
a. Lesson Planners.
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers
for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers
donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I
told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They
are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
The educational price for 8.0 Professional will be £39 + £5 P&P - in other
words the same price that we sell Personal to the public.
Orders by post, fax or email to me - you will be invoiced later. Orders
must include an official school order number.
Have a lot of fun.
SuSE Linux Ltd
The Kinetic Centre
020 8387 1482
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Subject: [seul-edu] Linux in education report #68 for April 15
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:20:07 -0400
From: Doug Loss <drloss(a)suscom.net>
Doug Loss All I want is a warm bed
Data Network Coordinator and a kind word and
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dloss(a)bloomu.edu Ashleigh Brilliant
Thank you to the kind individual who pointed out to me that the two postings
I made to the list on Friday 12 April arrived in an unreadable form.
I have done some initial investigation into causes and offer the following:
Because we work in a very mixed environment, I was using a different email
client (Foxmail v4.0 running on M$ Windows) from usual (Kmail 1.1.61 running
on SuSE Linux). That client encodes all outward mail using Base64 encoding -
which seems to have been what caused the problem. However, using all the
email clients I can lay my hands on, I have not yet found another one that
fails to read my postings.
To help in my investigations (most of which are being carried out off-list) I
should be glad to receive at the following email address
blank emails with "Unreadable" as the subject, from anyone who could not
decipher my Friday postings. (If I get a large number, then I'll re-post the
original nessages from my normal mailer.)
Please note: I wish to avoid flooding the list with investigation of this
issue, but I *will* post a conclusion if I manage to reach one!!!
Great, thanks to everyone who helped with this. I've added it to
the list info so that when someone subscribes they will receive it.
It can also be retrieved by sending a mail to
The only change I made was:
Technical support questions may be better addressed for SuSe Linux
and other brands of Linux in other appropriate newsgroups.
Discussions that have something to contribute to A1. Techincal
topics (e.g. "How to I get my new scanner to work?") are best
handled on our other lists such as suse-linux-e.
I left out the "other brands of Linux" part because it might be
misinterpreted to mean that this list is really about getting SuSE
Linux into schools instead of just Linux.
Are terms like 'K-12' meaningful to people outside of the US? Maybe
more generic terms like 'primary' and 'secondary' (or whatever the
correct terms are, I don't really know) would encourage non-US
people to contribute?
Hello my name is Bo Lynch. I just joined the suse schools e-mail list. I
am a Computer Engineer at a public school system in Amelia, Va. We are a very
small rural county, only having 3 schools. Within the schools we have
approxamatly 500-600 PCs. I am a newbie to the linux community only being
exposed to it for about a year now. But, within that time a have learned fairly
quickly and have managed to convert almost all of our NT servers over to Suse
7.1-7.3. We also have an e-mail package that runs Suse e-mail II. We here feel
that linux is growing and becoming more popular. If you think about it most
schools are raising Microsoft users because that is all that is present for the
students to have. We would like to expose our students to both the microsoft
and the linux operating systems. Do you know of any good educational programs
that run on linux. Do you know of any good educational programs that run on
linux?? If you do please let me know. Also if you have any ideas or comments I
would love to hear them. Thanks
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* Lance Lane (ldlane(a)citlink.net) [020412 11:09]:
> However, I think we should take a vote on a very important issue as an
> Educators like to exchange ideas. So shouldn't we make this a LANGUAGE
> specific list instead of Country specific.
Yes, that's how the rest of our lists are with the exception of the
schools-uk list. They wanted something specific to the UK. The USA
part wasn't my idea and I think can be safely ignored (but again,
that's for you to decide).
> EX: suse-schools-english(a)suse.com
> Other intrested people that speak different languages can follow suit.
> EX: suse-schools-spanish(a)suse.com
> 1. We can certainly exchange information and ideas with teachers from GB,
> Australia and other English speaking countries.
> 2. We need to format the group to fit the exchange of ideas as educators.
Let's see how this goes and we can always make new language-specific
lists in the future. If people really don't like the '-usa' part we
can change it to '-e'.
Officially you need 7.5. We're about to start testing...
From: Bruce Miller
Sent: 14/04/2002 19:48
Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Moving Linux to a larger disk - how?
I've been reading this thread with a growing sense of alarm at the
of trying this task myself.
In the past, I have always used 'Drive Copy' to to copy Windows based
This has been excellent an extremely easy and quick.
About nine months ago, I bought a copy Norton Ghost (about £30). This
much the same and a bit more too. It claims to support Linux as well as
XP etc. I have used it several times on XP and would thoroughly
it. The Linux options in the manual, are not as exhaustive as with NT/XP
it should do the job without any fuss, I would have thought. And quickly
Does anyone have any experience of this program in conjunction with
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