April 2002 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Print to win 98 server
by David Herman 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

People are always writing about printing from windows but my problem is the opposite. I just installed suse 7.2 pro on a couple of dell optiplex150 at my daughters school. The classrooms each have their own router for net/lan. One of the win 98 machines has a printer which all other machines in the class print to. question 1) What do I need to do to have the linux box print to the Win 98 machine. (I have no networking experience) (yet ;-) Question 2) This will probably make question 1 mute. I believe the printer that the server uses is a gdi printer (lexmark z12 if I remember) Can I print to this since Windows is acting as the server or do I need a "real" printer. This is a 4th/5th grade classroom, the kids ask "Why would I want to use linux. I'm going to have a hard time answering that satisfactorilly if they can't print out their work. -- dh

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Fwd: Re: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM proxy server query
by Stephen Ogden 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

I contacted the network admin of the school I worked at, that bought RM Proxy Server, and this is his reply. >From: <deleted to protect the innocent> >To: "Stephen Ogden" <psuedo_azrael(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM proxy server query >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:25:08 +0100 > >Guess what > >RM gave no indication when we purchased the Smartcache (via documentation >or >on the web!), that the source code was available to us. > >Guess this means their in violation of the GPL! > ><deleted to protect the innocent> > -- Azrael ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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new and exciting samba errors in log
by Matt Johnson 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Folks, In another school I installed samba as a PDC last week (not the same school with DNS issues!). This other samba box was suddenly being _really_ slow (7 - 10 mins for a logon), so I went to investigate (15 miles away). The log had apparently 'filled up', so it was spewing errors to the console. Primary worry: Anyone know what "Request_oplock_break: failed no response" means? It was flashing up continually. I restarted smb, and the problem was instantly solved - its back up to speed now - but I need stability, and need to feel secure that it won't happen again. Secondary worry: Even though performance is now great, and all seems well at the user end, it now says "PAM: system validation failed - user rejected" and "could not find desktop service" many many times, when a user logs on. It logs the user on instantly, so are those messages normal? It appears to have always said this, looking through the logs. Any ideas much appreciated. Anyone had this before? Are some of these messages normal? Thanks all - Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Page the Oracle
by ptaylor 11 Apr '02

11 Apr '02

Hi all: I am currently at Bournemouth and Poole college undertaking Cisco indoctrination but have come across (as you do) and interesting Linux problem. They are trying to run Oracle for their students to practice real sql but it is not working. They have followed al the how-tos and the installation was fine. They have followed suggestions about setting variables but when they run sqlplus they get the message that "libclsntsh.so.8.o" is not available. I did a search for it and it does not exist in the system. Any suggestions? I am busy with 3 exams a day and when I tried to install Oracle at home I was told that 256MB RAM was not enough. Any help much appreciated. Paul PS Phil, quid pro quo?

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proxy servers and banned lists
by James & Cybèle 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

While we are on the subject of proxies: What sort of size do the banned list have to be before the significantly slow squid on a 800Meg machine with 256M of RAM? I've found all sorts of banned lists on the web I could use but they run to thousands of items. James Carter South Lee School

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ADSL and Linux?
by Paul Munro 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Forgive my ignorant questions, but..does SuSE 7/8 support ADSL (USB) devices, and if so where can I get some indepth info on which manufacturers are supported etc? Are there any issues I need to consider before purchasing? Thanks, Paul Munro

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM proxy server query
by Stephen Ogden 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

>From: Philip Hands <phil(a)hands.com> >On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 01:26, Stephen Ogden wrote: > > RM now sell a proxy server solution that uses proxy .. caching but not > > filtering.. unless you pay extra. > > They don't even give you the root password so you can install extra >stuff > > yourself. > >That's a bit poor, but I suppose they are trying to prevent people from >shooting themselves in the foot. True, all maintainance has to be done by them, or you void the warranty.. but it very nicely prevents you even seeing what software is used.. or adding your own. > > I was just curious in what way this reflected the license of the GPL > > software they are selling.. does witholding access to your ability to >modify > > the program count as any sort of infringement? > >Well, I doubt the are withholding access in any real manner. If you >have physical access, you should be able to get root, by rebooting, and >either breaking in at the LILO prompt, or booting of a rescue floppy or >CD. If they've made it so that you'd need to void the warranty to >acheive this, then it is starting to look like they're going at least >against the spirit of the GPL, if not the letter. Yes, that's the way I see it.. it feels really dirty! >Do they provide source code for the product? If it's GPLed, in part or >whole and they've not accompanied it either with the source, or with a >reasonably prominent offer of the source, and idication of your right to >it, then they're in breach of the GPL. I can't say for sure, however, as you have no access to the box, who knows what software you're even getting! It is probably just standard squid. And all the source may well be available on the machine.. that you can't get into. I did offer to get in and change the root password.. but the man in charge thought that would be a rather bad idea ... he's probably right >Cheers, Phil. -- Azrael ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM proxy server query
by Simon Wood 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

If you have physical access you have the ability to view the contents of the drive, or even change it if you want. You do not need the root password. This is why server rooms have locks ;-) Simon. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:42 PM To: Giles Nunn Cc: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM proxy server query > Apart from a web interface for managing the system and the filtering > categories etc., the database of categorised sites is the only special > thing on the system and is the main justification for withholding root > access. I suppose that from an admin point of view it is much easier for > them if no one has access to mess anything up. The system works well, in Or to see if they have messed up. > general, but it would be nice to have the option of tweaking it to suit > ourselves.

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] power surge-PC not working
by Ron Johnson 09 Apr '02

09 Apr '02

Thanks very much for the help (hopefully you read the thanks posted to the group)(it was the hdds that were shorting or smoking) Yesterday I attached a hard drive (just a 2 gig spare from school - fan and power came on and it recognised hard drive but then came up 'CMOS Checksum error DEFAULTS LOADED' and then would not go on any further - I cant even get into setup I had cleared the CMOS as recommended earlier (Mboard manual said to move a pin and then replace which I did) I am stuck now - I haven,t a clue what the CMOS is and what I should do next - if you can help that would be great but I certainly will understand if that isnt possible Yours Ronald -- David J Nelson <dnelson444(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Hi > Check the jumper to clear CMOS. Make sure it is > in the correct position. > If that isn't the problem then the motherboard is > dead. > (btw a 400Mhz Duron? I thought Durons were only > 600MHz+ ?) > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Johnson" > <head_hertfordstandrews(a)yahoo.com> > To: <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:25 AM > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] power surge-PC not > working > > > > Dear anyone > > > > We had an electrician in today to do kitchen stuff > > (well it is the holidays and we have been saving)( > for > > ages) so electricity has been on and off most of > the > > day (do u know where this is heading I wonder). > > > > I noticed when the electrics where turned back on > my > > computer came on (had surge plug connected last > week) > > so clever me I switched off the supply to my > computer > > (obviously after shutting it down - would I be so > > stupid as to not do that?) > > > > Well actually yes I would be and am fairly stupid > as I > > did not bother to turn off the supply to my son's > > computer (we are not rich - built both they are > good > > but cheap)(didn't fit a surge plug last week - I > mean > > why would you?) > > > > Well actually my son's PC was good but is not so > good > > now - it wont start up - nothing - I've put in a > new > > psu (atx) and still no joy - when I turn on the > supply > > to the computer nothing seems to work - although > the > > cpu fan - a couple of times has made a very small > > movement- one cd drive light comes on and then > goes > > out as do the diagnostic LEDs on the motherboard - > but > > nothing else at all - I get no power to any drives > - > > nothing works it seems to cut or short out in some > way > > > > Any suggestions as to how many new bits to get or > what > > to do it's a K7T Pro (MS-6330) ATX VA mainboard > with a > > 400 Duron. > > > > Thanks in advance for listening/reading > > > > Yours Ronald > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: > suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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RM proxy server query
by Stephen Ogden 08 Apr '02

08 Apr '02

RM now sell a proxy server solution that uses proxy .. caching but not filtering.. unless you pay extra. They don't even give you the root password so you can install extra stuff yourself. I was just curious in what way this reflected the license of the GPL software they are selling.. does witholding access to your ability to modify the program count as any sort of infringement? Does anyone know any more about RM's proxy server solution? -- Azrael ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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