February 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Really Weird
by Chris Davies 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

I used a machine set up with linux yesterday. Today I can't log in. As soon as I type root as a login name it tells me "login correct" Does this mean I have to re-install all over again? What caused this? Chris Chris Davies Head of IT Epsom College College Road Epsom Surrey KT17 4JQ tel.: 01372 821178 fax.: 01372 821005

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Looking for some serious help.
by DCR 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

Hi all, Okay I have been reading this list for a couple of weeks with increasing interest. Now I have a rough plan of what I want to do with my Linux set up, and I need some guidance from all of you that seeem to be so much more advanced than me. At the moment we have a Linux server running Suse 6.1 which acts as our proxy server controlling internet access. We also have a NT network running which is our main network. Now what i want is to set up some machines that run directly from the Linux server, that run the kde desktop and are able to surf the internet. That is all they have to do, I don't want them to access the main network or run any other applications, just be able to surf the net and possibly safe files to disk. Now what i need to know is how hard this will be and what sort of hardware I need. I have a cupboard full of old 486's in various states of disrepair and was hoping to be able to put these to some use. I am particularly keen to use them as diskless terminals if possible. So now what i need is a very friendly soul or souls who would be willing to help talk me through all this, in exchange for infinite thanks and any help with web design, visual basic, javascript or any of the other things i do know about. Looking forward to hearing from someone soon Des Reynolds BBHS Lowestoft

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Looking for some serious help.
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 29 Feb '00

29 Feb '00

Hi Des, We managed to get Netscape talking to our proxy in under 10 minutes start to dialup. That's the easy bit - just set up the 'proxy' options in netscape (you'll need to know the IP address and port settings for your proxy). Enter the proxy IP address and *appropriate* port addresses in the boxes and apply the changes. Saving files, in other than the default mode (local disk), requires a bit more effort. We are still working on getting our users access to our NT server (for their home directories) safely, but surfing seems to happen quite easily. Like you, we have several 486's - and are working toward thin-client design for these. I will post when we have any movement on this. Regards, Paul ---------- > From: DCR <DCR(a)bbhs.suffolk.sch.uk> > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Looking for some serious help. > Date: 29 February 2000 12:03 > > Hi all, > > Okay I have been reading this list for a couple of weeks with increasing > interest. > Now I have a rough plan of what I want to do with my Linux set up, and I > need some guidance from all of you that seeem to be so much more advanced > than me. > > At the moment we have a Linux server running Suse 6.1 which acts as our > proxy server controlling internet access. We also have a NT network running > which is our main network. > > Now what i want is to set up some machines that run directly from the Linux > server, that run the kde desktop and are able to surf the internet. That is > all they have to do, I don't want them to access the main network or run > any other applications, just be able to surf the net and possibly safe > files to disk. > > Now what i need to know is how hard this will be and what sort of hardware > I need. > > I have a cupboard full of old 486's in various states of disrepair and was > hoping to be able to put these to some use. I am particularly keen to use > them as diskless terminals if possible. > > So now what i need is a very friendly soul or souls who would be willing to > help talk me through all this, in exchange for infinite thanks and any help > with web design, visual basic, javascript or any of the other things i do > know about. > > Looking forward to hearing from someone soon > > Des Reynolds > BBHS > Lowestoft >

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Really Weird
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 29 Feb '00

29 Feb '00

I had this the other day - try re-seating the keyboard connector, you might be getting a "double return" on the keyboard. Other hardware problems to check for are sticky keys (try the numeric keypad for <enter>) or muck between/under the keycaps. As a last resort, try another keyboard. My kbd had gone faulty, so it does still happen. Regards, Paul. ---------- > From: Chris Davies <cjd(a)epsomcollege.sch.uk> > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Really Weird > Date: 28 February 2000 09:55 > > I used a machine set up with linux yesterday. Today I can't log in. > As soon as I type root as a login name it tells me "login correct" > > Does this mean I have to re-install all over again? > > What caused this? > > Chris > Chris Davies > Head of IT > Epsom College > College Road > Epsom > Surrey > KT17 4JQ > tel.: 01372 821178 > fax.: 01372 821005 >

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Half term (fwd) Etc...
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 28 Feb '00

28 Feb '00

Oops... strange things happening in the adress-book - this one got cc'd back to me as well as being mis-directed. Win**s software, needless to ask! ---------- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Half term (fwd) > Date: 28 February 2000 12:26 > > (I've taken the liberty of forwarding this to the list as I think it was > meant to go there - Roger) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba
by James Scott 28 Feb '00

28 Feb '00

What I had not checked was the sub folders were use able. Which they are not. Doh. Back to the drawing board. James ---------- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: James Scott <scott(a)camborne-comm-coll.cornwall.sch.uk> > Cc: suse @ School <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba > Date: 18 February 2000 16:25 > > Please do: as Mullah Nasruddin might have said: > > `those who know, please explain samba to those who don't' > > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, James Scott wrote: > > > Thank you. I now have a public share. On my NT Network. If any one is > > intrested I will post how I did this. > > > > Many thanks > > > > James > > > > ---------- > > > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > > > To: James Scott <scott(a)camborne-comm-coll.cornwall.sch.uk> > > > Cc: suse @ School <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > > > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba > > > Date: 18 February 2000 11:13 > > > > > > I copied this from > > > man smb.conf > > > > > > > > > guest ok (S) > > > If this parameter is 'yes' for a service, then no password is > > > required to connect to the service. Privileges will be those of the guest > > > account. > > > > > > There are a couple of good books on Samba out there if you really get > > > stuck, but there's good stuff on www.samba.org and in the man pages. > > > > > > For obvious reasons, we don't use samba here :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all you samba gurus. Is it possible to set up a share on Linux that > > can > > > > be seen and used by NT users with out them having a Linux usernames. If > > > > this is not possible can Linux use the NT sam, or NT groups ?? > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Roger Whittaker > > > SuSE Linux Ltd > > > The Kinetic Centre > > > Theobald Street > > > Borehamwood > > > Herts > > > WD6 4PJ > > > ---------------------- > > > 020 8387 1482 > > > ---------------------- > > > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > > > ---------------------- > > > > -- > Roger Whittaker > SuSE Linux Ltd > The Kinetic Centre > Theobald Street > Borehamwood > Herts > WD6 4PJ > ---------------------- > 020 8387 1482 > ---------------------- > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > ----------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Odd Window Panes (Pains?) (fwd)
by Roger Whittaker 28 Feb '00

28 Feb '00

(And this ...) --------------------- Got the system working over 1/2-term. Tried a replacement video card (known working, same type, unbranded Cirrus CL-GD5446 1 or 2 MB) - no change. Ended up enabling the on-board video and re-installing both SuSE and RedHat (seperate drives for these) - horrible glitching with shared memory (a known problem with on-board video), but ran OK with SuSE (not RedHat). Video is SIS chipset, 2MB shared. Plugged in the original card (without disabling on-board, this happens automatically) - et voila! Perfect video most of the time - only the occasional transient trashing of a window. I assume that the card is not actually compliant with the standard for these chipsets, and providing one doesn't push for extreme performance, the SIS commandset is sufficiently compatible to work. Odd solution, but it seems to work. ---------- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: Edgehill E-Mail Service <EdgehillIT(a)edgecoll.clara.net> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Odd Window Panes (Pains?) > Date: 18 February 2000 11:45 > > Good luck: we're a bit baffled by this one as the card should work fine, > and we're surprised that sax failed. > > If you're still having problems next week let us know. > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Edgehill E-Mail Service wrote: > > > Sorry, missed those in the posting - sax failed (utterly) after the first > > install, and it was xf86config, not xconfig I used last. The specification > > was exact, and several tries less than maximum spec for the card - it won't > > run without autoprobing, and keeps trying to set a 32-bit mode > > (unsupported) as the default for the card. I have tried different > > scan-rates and screen sizes (16 colour 640x480 is just SILLY!) with the > > same result in various colour and size schemes. > > > > I'm beginning to suspect that the memory in the system (either RAM or video > > card) has gone out-of-spec (this box is made entirely out of OLD bits!). > > > > Let's not worry about this one at the moment, though. Half-term next week, > > so I'll try a few swap-outs while I have time :) > > > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > > > ---------- > > > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > > > To: Edgehill E-Mail Service <EdgehillIT(a)edgecoll.clara.net> > > > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Odd Window Panes (Pains?) > > > Date: 18 February 2000 10:53 > > > > > > Shut down X and try running sax from a text console (you need to be > > root). > > > > > > Alternatively try running xf86config. > > > > > > Make sure you specify the card and monitor exactly. > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Edgehill E-Mail Service wrote: > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > > > > > To: Edgehill E-Mail Service <EdgehillIT(a)edgecoll.clara.net> > > > > > Cc: SuSe-Linux-UK-Schools <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Odd Window Panes (Pains?) > > > > > Date: 18 February 2000 10:08 > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Edgehill E-Mail Service wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Have just spent the last week (off and on) installing SuSE onto my > > > > Linux > > > > > > Box (twice). > > > > > > > > > > > > X-server ran well, first time (a novelty after RedHat ;), but KDE > > is > > > > > > painfully slow. Restarted using Gnome (smaller and faster), but > > still > > > > slow. > > > > > > Tried AfterStep, better speed but less fun to use (hhos). > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a common problem with all three - when dragging windows or > > > > > > scrolling the contents, various parts of the desktop (icons, > > taskbar or > > > > > > whatever) are displayed inside the window - repeated and often in > > > > diagonal > > > > > > stripes (as if the horizontal hol has unlocked)- which remain > > static, > > > > > > covering the window contents which are still present and clickable. > > > > > > resizing the window clears the garbage. > > > > > > > > > > Sounds as if X is not configured right. How did you do it > > originally? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Initially YAST2, then YAST1, then XCONFIG (The best result uses the > > same > > > > settings as for RedHat, which is fine). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've cut down the number of services running to no avail. Any > > ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > System Cyrix 6x86MX, 48MB RAM, Generic Cirrus CL-GD5446 +2MB. > > > > Everything > > > > > > else standard. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, I've gone back to RedHat on the second hard drive > > > > which > > > > > > gives no probems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Edgehill IT Department Email Service. > > > > > > Please check sender's address from body of > > > > > > Message for return address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find us at: > > > > > > www.edgecoll.clara.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Edgehill IT Department Email Service. > > > > > > Please check sender's address from body of > > > > > > Message for return address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Find us at: > > > > > > www.edgecoll.clara.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Roger Whittaker > > > > > SuSE Linux Ltd > > > > > The Kinetic Centre > > > > > Theobald Street > > > > > Borehamwood > > > > > Herts > > > > > WD6 4PJ > > > > > ---------------------- > > > > > 020 8387 1482 > > > > > ---------------------- > > > > > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > > > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Roger Whittaker > > > SuSE Linux Ltd > > > The Kinetic Centre > > > Theobald Street > > > Borehamwood > > > Herts > > > WD6 4PJ > > > ---------------------- > > > 020 8387 1482 > > > ---------------------- > > > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > > > > > -- > Roger Whittaker > SuSE Linux Ltd > The Kinetic Centre > Theobald Street > Borehamwood > Herts > WD6 4PJ > ---------------------- > 020 8387 1482 > ---------------------- > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > ---------------------- > >

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Half term (fwd)
by Roger Whittaker 28 Feb '00

28 Feb '00

(I've taken the liberty of forwarding this to the list as I think it was meant to go there - Roger) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I must admit to having not been in all week - good weather means annual holiday! ;) While the Devonshire sunshine dribbled down the windows, I managed to reload SuSE, RedHat and rebuild my Linux box - including a few mods of my own devising (mostly carried out with an axe!!!) The odd problems I was having with video displays are fixed (separate posting), and I've had a chance to squint at the manual a bit. I've also had a chance to plot the next stage of the installation at school <evil chuckle>. Now, back to the grindstone.... Regards, Paul. ---------- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Half term > Date: 23 February 2000 11:34 > > Well: no-one has posted, so I suppose that means you're all sitting with > your feet up in front of the fire reading the SuSE manual. Or something. > > Have a lot of fun until you get back to the chalk-face. :) > > Roger > > -- > Roger Whittaker > SuSE Linux Ltd > The Kinetic Centre > Theobald Street > Borehamwood > Herts > WD6 4PJ > ---------------------- > 020 8387 1482 > ---------------------- > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > ---------------------- > > >

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Re: Mouse Disappears
by Roger Whittaker 25 Feb '00

25 Feb '00

It's good if you post to the list, then other people will see what's happening. Get out of X and (as root) start yast. Go to system configuration -> Integrate hardware into system -> Mouse configuration Tell it what kind of mouse you've really got. You may need to run sax (the graphics setup program) and tell it too. On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, IT Support, Ysgol Gyfun Pantycelyn wrote: > I have installed SUSE and had no problems at all. After the first boot > however i logged on and loaded the GUI and my mouse seems to have a > mind > og it's own. It is visible around the periphery of the monitor but fails > to be controllable. It is difficult for me a Linux novice to experiment > with the settings as I cannott use the mouse to tweak them. > Any ideas would be most welcome. > Niel Hudson > IT Support Engineer > Ysgol Pantycelyn, Llandovery, SW Wales > -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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No half term for me this week
by Chris Davies 24 Feb '00

24 Feb '00

Our half term was last week, when there were no queues of schoolkids. It was great. I came back on Monday to find that Nominet had (accidently!!) deleted our domain name - they're unhappy because we have no county in it. As a result there was no email inwards and no access to our website. Just what i need on my first day back. It's now resolved, thank goodness, though hardly an apology from Nominet!! As a result there has been little time for looking at Linux. My aim, having got one machine ( a pentium 200MH) working with KDE, Apache server, printing to a novell network printer and workin as a client to Novell giving access to my space on the file server, is now to utilise the several 386s and 486s with 4 or 8 Mb, that I have as x terminals ( is that the right word). I want to have a fast machine as an X server and the slower machine doing some basic stuff via it like bweb browsing, email and basic word processing. I've tried to put Suse on a 8Mb 486 and it just doesn't work. During the install it says too little memory and invites me to start up a second shell by using F2 and creating and activating some swap space to use for installation. I can't find any help on how to do this. As I have similar machines it would be really good to know. Any ideas? Thanks Chris Chris Davies Head of IT Epsom College College Road Epsom Surrey KT17 4JQ tel.: 01372 821178 fax.: 01372 821005

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