February 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Saying Hello as Roger asked
by M E Clinch 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Hello I am an IT Tech at a school which has just gone over to Macs from acorns. I am also a member of the UKUUG ( United Kingdom Unix User Group). My task is to oversee the setting up of a "Schools Focus" group. The idea is to get schools to adopt Open Source software. The advantage to schools is probably obvious to you all. For UKP 30 you save the cost of NT and the license fees and have good stable servers. I am tasked with designing a web page to be added to the UKUUGs web site. See www.ukuug.org . Web page design is not my forte but I have played with unix/linux for a while. This is to act as a place for links to useful or interesting sites. It should be polished and put in place by our webmaster in a week or two. If any of you have web sites and want a link added to your site as a "linux empowered" school please let me know. regards mike -- Mike Clinch, minkl(a)dircon.co.uk, Disclaimer? Acorn RiscPC + 200 Meg SA110, Suse Linux box and a Unix box

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Linux "Things" (fwd)
by Roger Whittaker 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Edgehill E-Mail Service wrote: > There are a couple of "Things" I am hoping to achieve in the near future, > and would appreciate any foreknowledge of matters regarding. > > 1. We are standardised on D-Link DFE-530TX NIC's (10/100Mbps, PCI) > Are they actually supported under SuSE 6.3, or am I going to have to kludge > the SCO drivers to suit (or find someone more competent than I)? Yes: it is supported. There is a supported hardware database on our web site where you can check these kind of things. > > 2. I intend to try SuSE on systems with the Evergreen (MX Pro) upgrade > (original AMD chips are long-dead)- they are aught to work with the recent > kernel revs., but are there any long-term issues I might like to know > about? Should be OK as far as I know. > > 3. We have a number of slim-line systems (486) with restricted resources > (small HDD and tight memory limits - 30pin simm, to 16MB max.) > > I want to run Linux on these, but cannot fit a sensible set of parts in > them - is there any thin-client software which would allow these (or even > some ANCIENT 386 nimbuses) to run as graphics terminals a-la Citrix > (Winframe)? Have a look in the HOWTOs for the diskless howto and consider setting up `diskless X-terminals'. -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Member! (Adrian Wells)
by adrian.wells 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Why thank you kindly stranger! The nice thing is the max bandwidth used is only 2.8% peak Rx & 1.25% peak Tx, both bandwidths usually sit below 0.1%! (no video conferencing yet) We use an EXTREME switch at one end and an Ovislink at the other end with servers sitting at each end. A SuSE server too once I get a few mins (hours?) It's like opening my boys' k'nex at Christmas all over again! :-) Thanks for the Tiny info - Trades description act? it does have "Intel inside" plastered all over the front. ---------- > From: Edgehill E-Mail Service <EdgehillIT(a)edgecoll.clara.net> > To: SuSe-Linux-UK-Schools <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Member! (Adrian Wells) > Date: 09 February 2000 11:53 > > Re your P75: > > Our old kit was Tiny, too. Yes, they have (in the past) fibbed about the > processors - the AMD substitute was actually better than the Pentium spec, > so no complaints there. > > Don't bother trying to remove the heatsink - Tiny used to use heatsink-glue > on their P5/AMD5 systems! > > I'm pleased to hear that SuSE runs on these machines, as they will probably > be our first candidates for permanent Linux installation. > > I envy you your 1Gig pipe. > > Regards, > Paul. > > ---------- > > From: adrian.wells <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> > > To: Suse List <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Member! > > Date: 09 February 2000 11:51 > > > > Hi, > > > > My name is Adrian Wells, I'm systems manager at Sidcot School. > > > > I have designed and just installed phase one of a new Voice and Data > > network on one side of our campus, amongst other groovy stuff we have a > > 1Gig backbone. I recommended LINUX boxes for our networking/e-mail and > > proxy server. But my betters purchased an RM system comprising two NT > PIII > > 500 servers (every thing ran just fine from one P166 Novel box before!) > But > > we want to set up our own proxy server and run Unixy stuff available from > > the UNIs and I just want to play (if the truth be known) > > > > By the way I'm not slagging NT or RM, so lets keep it clean! :-) > > > > I have rooted out an old P75 Intel machine (LINUX tells me it's an AMD! > is > > this a bug or has TINY been fibbing? I haven't removed the heatsink to > see) > > > > Installation was uneventful and took about an hour. > > > > Service from SuSE so far has been very efficient. > > > > Adrian > > > > > > Kind Regards > > Adrian Wells > > _______________________________________ > > Systems Manager > > Sidcot School > > Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. > > > > Please reply to > > adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk > > admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries > >

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Today's welcome message
by Dave Marshall 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Hi Im Dave Marshall and I have purchased a copy of LInux primarily to familarise myself with it as the school I am at is not one for change, in fact they dont even want to keep up with the current times. Unfortunatley I do not have any say it what occurs or takes place, Im working on that at the moment. One success I have managed to get them to agree to reduce the numbers of staff with full admin rights down to 3 from what was 10. Phew!! Hope to trial Linux in due course. DM >From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> >To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com >Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Today's welcome message >Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:52:23 +0000 (GMT) > >Hello again: I see that quite a few people have subscribed overnight. > >Please post a message to introduce yourselves. Tell us how you're getting >on, even if you're going to say that the box is still unopened on a high >shelf in the IT room! > >Please use the list to share what you're doing and what your problems are: >it should become a useful way of sharing information. > >Tell others about the list - anyone who is using or thinking of using >Linux in schools can join. You don't have to be our customers. > >Good luck > >Roger > >-- >Roger Whittaker >SuSE Linux Ltd >The Kinetic Centre >Theobald Street >Borehamwood >Herts >WD6 4PJ >---------------------- >020 8387 1482 >---------------------- >roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk >---------------------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Linux "Things"
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

There are a couple of "Things" I am hoping to achieve in the near future, and would appreciate any foreknowledge of matters regarding. 1. We are standardised on D-Link DFE-530TX NIC's (10/100Mbps, PCI) Are they actually supported under SuSE 6.3, or am I going to have to kludge the SCO drivers to suit (or find someone more competent than I)? 2. I intend to try SuSE on systems with the Evergreen (MX Pro) upgrade (original AMD chips are long-dead)- they are aught to work with the recent kernel revs., but are there any long-term issues I might like to know about? 3. We have a number of slim-line systems (486) with restricted resources (small HDD and tight memory limits - 30pin simm, to 16MB max.) I want to run Linux on these, but cannot fit a sensible set of parts in them - is there any thin-client software which would allow these (or even some ANCIENT 386 nimbuses) to run as graphics terminals a-la Citrix (Winframe)? Regards, Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edgehill IT Department Email Service. Please check sender's address from body of Message for return address. Find us at: www.edgecoll.clara.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [suse-Linux-uk-schools] Thanks
by SCOTT 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

oops.... Thanks. Now that I am logged on using the same user name on both networks all is well. Now of to try more adventures on my new toy. How I setup SuSE to use Samba so that I could use it on my RM Connects network. before I did this I already had suse talking to NT so the networking/internet side had been taken care of. 1) downloaded samba from www.samba.org 2) installed samba using YaST 3) restarted both networks. Now I could see that I had a new domain in my network. and the Linux box was there in it. Excellent. I tried access the shared resources that I could see were available on the Linux box. But the stupid thing wanted a password. I only have 3 uses on Linux and none of there passwords would work. 4) to resolve this problem I thought that if I changed the domain info in smb.conf I would then get access to these files. wrong. 5) To gain access to the shared resources on the machine your windows logon name must match a Linux one (inc. password). Many thanks to Roger for all his help in the setting up of my Linux / NT System. Rgds James ---------- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: SCOTT <SCOTT(a)camborne-comm-coll.cornwall.sch.uk> > Cc: suse schools list <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Thanks > Date: 09 February 2000 11:17 > > Have you set up shares in smb.conf? And is the user you are logged on to > windows as included in those who can access the shares? > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, SCOTT wrote: > > > > > I spoke to soon......... I can now see the server in my domain but when I > > try to access it, it requires a password. I don't know what pass word to > > give it. I have tried root and user password. There must be a passwords > > list some place that needs updating. Any one got any ideas as to were this > > is or how to do it. > > > > James > > > > ---------- > > > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > > > To: SCOTT <SCOTT(a)camborne-comm-coll.cornwall.sch.uk> > > > Cc: suse schools list <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > > > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Thanks > > > Date: 09 February 2000 09:45 > > > > > > Brilliant. > > > > > > If you have time you might want to offer a short summary of what you did > > > to the list for others to see ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, SCOTT wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Roger for you help in setting up my samba server. I am now going > > > > through the final stages of configuration. > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Roger Whittaker > > > SuSE Linux Ltd > > > The Kinetic Centre > > > Theobald Street > > > Borehamwood > > > Herts > > > WD6 4PJ > > > ---------------------- > > > 020 8387 1482 > > > ---------------------- > > > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > > > ---------------------- > > > > -- > Roger Whittaker > SuSE Linux Ltd > The Kinetic Centre > Theobald Street > Borehamwood > Herts > WD6 4PJ > ---------------------- > 020 8387 1482 > ---------------------- > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > ----------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Member! (Adrian Wells)
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Re your P75: Our old kit was Tiny, too. Yes, they have (in the past) fibbed about the processors - the AMD substitute was actually better than the Pentium spec, so no complaints there. Don't bother trying to remove the heatsink - Tiny used to use heatsink-glue on their P5/AMD5 systems! I'm pleased to hear that SuSE runs on these machines, as they will probably be our first candidates for permanent Linux installation. I envy you your 1Gig pipe. Regards, Paul. ---------- > From: adrian.wells <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> > To: Suse List <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Member! > Date: 09 February 2000 11:51 > > Hi, > > My name is Adrian Wells, I'm systems manager at Sidcot School. > > I have designed and just installed phase one of a new Voice and Data > network on one side of our campus, amongst other groovy stuff we have a > 1Gig backbone. I recommended LINUX boxes for our networking/e-mail and > proxy server. But my betters purchased an RM system comprising two NT PIII > 500 servers (every thing ran just fine from one P166 Novel box before!) But > we want to set up our own proxy server and run Unixy stuff available from > the UNIs and I just want to play (if the truth be known) > > By the way I'm not slagging NT or RM, so lets keep it clean! :-) > > I have rooted out an old P75 Intel machine (LINUX tells me it's an AMD! is > this a bug or has TINY been fibbing? I haven't removed the heatsink to see) > > Installation was uneventful and took about an hour. > > Service from SuSE so far has been very efficient. > > Adrian > > > Kind Regards > Adrian Wells > _______________________________________ > Systems Manager > Sidcot School > Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. > > Please reply to > adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk > admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries >

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New Member!
by adrian.wells 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Hi, My name is Adrian Wells, I'm systems manager at Sidcot School. I have designed and just installed phase one of a new Voice and Data network on one side of our campus, amongst other groovy stuff we have a 1Gig backbone. I recommended LINUX boxes for our networking/e-mail and proxy server. But my betters purchased an RM system comprising two NT PIII 500 servers (every thing ran just fine from one P166 Novel box before!) But we want to set up our own proxy server and run Unixy stuff available from the UNIs and I just want to play (if the truth be known) By the way I'm not slagging NT or RM, so lets keep it clean! :-) I have rooted out an old P75 Intel machine (LINUX tells me it's an AMD! is this a bug or has TINY been fibbing? I haven't removed the heatsink to see) Installation was uneventful and took about an hour. Service from SuSE so far has been very efficient. Adrian Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Thanks
by SCOTT 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

I spoke to soon......... I can now see the server in my domain but when I try to access it, it requires a password. I don't know what pass word to give it. I have tried root and user password. There must be a passwords list some place that needs updating. Any one got any ideas as to were this is or how to do it. James ---------- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: SCOTT <SCOTT(a)camborne-comm-coll.cornwall.sch.uk> > Cc: suse schools list <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Thanks > Date: 09 February 2000 09:45 > > Brilliant. > > If you have time you might want to offer a short summary of what you did > to the list for others to see ... > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, SCOTT wrote: > > > Thanks Roger for you help in setting up my samba server. I am now going > > through the final stages of configuration. > > > > Rgds > > > > James > > > > -- > Roger Whittaker > SuSE Linux Ltd > The Kinetic Centre > Theobald Street > Borehamwood > Herts > WD6 4PJ > ---------------------- > 020 8387 1482 > ---------------------- > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > ----------------------

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Today's welcome message
by Roger Whittaker 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Hello again: I see that quite a few people have subscribed overnight. Please post a message to introduce yourselves. Tell us how you're getting on, even if you're going to say that the box is still unopened on a high shelf in the IT room! Please use the list to share what you're doing and what your problems are: it should become a useful way of sharing information. Tell others about the list - anyone who is using or thinking of using Linux in schools can join. You don't have to be our customers. Good luck Roger -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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