October 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Anyone using ROX filer
by Colin McQueen 09 Nov '00

09 Nov '00

Hello I am an ICT Co-ordinator (ex network manager) at The Romsey School. We use Linux for web serving and proxying but its RedHat. I'm testing the SUSE 6.4 at home before swapping over to using that instead of RH6.1. I have installed ROX filer on it so we get a RISC OS look alike filer. Its pretty good and I feel more comfotable with its drag and drop interface. Has anyone else tried this or need help doing so ? Its available via :- http://rox.sourceforge.net/ Cheers -- Colin McQueen : Using an Acorn StrongARM Risc PC Web Domain : http://www.mcqueen.uk.net/ BSc Zoology + Oceanography : PGCE : MSc in CBL/T

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Help on cabling for network topology
by Darren Garside 01 Nov '00

01 Nov '00

Hi. I've been lurking in this group for a while and now need to ask for some help please. I work in a small primary school in the West Country and we are in the middle of a new building project. To date I have been running a SuSe 6.4 server on a 10-pc (Windoze unfortunately) network suite (all based in my small, mobile hut, classroom, shared with 27 strapping Year 6's!). I have been asked to spec up our new network and need to run my ideas through this wise and experienced forum (I'm an NQT with five years experience in ICT industry/Information sector). I'm planning to have a server connected to an 8 port switch (In a room to themselves). Each cable from the switch goes to a classroom where there is a hub. The cables then run from the hub to wall-mounted CAT-5 sockets. Cable runs from the CAT5 sockets to the PC. I'm confused about which of these links requirs standard cat5 UTP wiring and which require cross-over configured cable. I suspect that as the hubs have uplink buttons I only require cross-over cable for the final 2m run from wall-mounted socket to PC. Am I on the right lines or is there a far superior layout? Another matter. RUnnning SAMBA I have everything configured apart from the fact that the shares do not show up in network neighbourhood on the workstations. I can mount the sahres using 'net use' etc. Ant ideas? Many thanks Darren Garside

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Graphics problem on install
by Matt Johnson 01 Nov '00

01 Nov '00

Hopefully a simple one... I've just got in a new Dell Dimension with onboard (hmm) graphics. I want to use it as a proxy server. I bung in the Suse cd1. It boots from it. Yast2. It seems happy right up until you get the first pretty screen (the nice looking install interface - grey gui). At this point it focuses in on and magnifies the top left hand corner of the screen, and I can't do any more. It doesn't crash, it's just that all I can do is change the options that happen to be in the top left of the screen!!! So, I get clever. I use Yast and the boot disk. I use XF86Config at the end of the install. When I go into KDE with startx - again - magnifies the screen. All I can see is the message in the middle of the screen that you get when you run KDE for the first time ...creating desktop etc. etc. I've tried SaX. Won't start. I'm not very experienced with Linux. I've set up a successful proxy before, and implemented Samba, but on this I'm stuck. Any simple way I can use Yast2? (It's easy for a beginner like me). -- Matt Johnson Network Administrator Applecroft School __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/

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Re: mouse
by Phil Jones 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Martin, The page you need is Colas Nahaboo's X mouse wheel scroll page. Here it is: http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ Wishes, Phil.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Re: Configuration Problems ( was [suse-linux-uk-schools] suse-linux-uk-schools )
by Gary Stainburn 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

-----Original Message----- From: Richard [SMTP:richard@sheflug.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 11:15 AM To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Re: Configuration Problems ( was [suse-linux-uk-schools] suse-linux-uk-schools ) >Robb > >The Royal Latin School wrote: >> >> My graphics card is inbuilt on the mother board, and off hand I couldn't >> tell you, I have 32MB of ram and an 8GB hard drive, with (supposedly) 5GB >> assigned to Linux, but it thinks it's got about 1. Which is fine, 'cos I'll >> get the rest back when I've finished fiddling about and then do it properly. > >The built in chips can be a bit strange at times. You really need to >plug in a separate graphics card. That might be an S3 or ATI card. >First time configuration of X-windows can be difficult. But, as other >people have said, first time installation of Microsoft products can be >difficult as well :) > >I've also had a lot of trouble with these chips under Win >95/98/2000/NT4 and some of the comments I've heard from PC shop >technicians aren't really repeatable here. > >32Mb of RAM is somewhat on the mean side. This is why your hard drive >is grinding. If I run MS Windows I use 128Mb of RAM. This allows MS >Office to run without problems. If you want to run X-windows and an >office suite you should use at least 64Mb of RAM. I've also met >people who insist that 256Mb is the minimum. However, in the run up >to Christmas the Taiwanese RAM people have jacked up the prices up to >maximise profits. So, 64Mb might be all that you can afford ? Hi Richard, all. I've met these people who insinst on 256MB RAM. They're usually people trying to install 3rd party s/w on your PC and say this to cover their own backs. I quite happily run MS Win95 and RH6.2/KDE in 32MB. I also run MS Office and StarOffice on 32MB although I will admit that both run better on 64MB. > >Thanks > >-- >Richard ----------------------------------------- Gary Stainburn. Work: http://www.ringways.co.uk mailto:gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk REVCOM: http://www.revcom.org.uk mailto:gary.stainburn@revcom.org.uk ----------------------------------------- This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 200 -----------------------------------------

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mouse problems
by Martin Dart 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Is there any way to get the wheel on my MS Intellimouse working in SuSE? When I choose the option from within SaX, the thing goes crazy and I have to force a reboot to get myself back into a working X environment. Only the basic PS2 mouse option actually works. Martin Dart

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] suse-linux-uk-schools
by Martin Dart 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Because despite its difficulties, even Linux is easier to deal with than Microsoft's ever-changing licensing legislation! Anyway, the computing industry seems obsessed with how many strings your bow has got, and even the most stick-in-the-mud IT manager has read about Linux at some time or another, and the promise of something for 'free' (especially working in schools) is too much to resist. Martin Dart >>Hi >>So if you're so good at implementing Win2k and the like, why are you >>bothering with Linux? Geoff > If I were a reviewer evaluating the product, I would have little choice but > to slate it, and advise people to choose Microsoft products - I've installed > 1 server & 2 workstations with Win2K, implemented a domain, set up printers, > and connected to the internet in the same time period that Linux has done > little more than frustrate and annoy me. > > But I will persevere, as I am nothing else if not inquisitive and resilient! > It does seem to me however that the Linux community suffers from an overdose > of that sorry old computing tale - assuming that everyone else in the world > knows as much as you, and despising them if they do not! > > Regards, > > Martin. > > >

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Testers needed for Createusers, etc
by npauli 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Jones <phil(a)lynxafrica.demon.co.uk> > Dear all, > > I have updated the following packages which I have written: > - Createusers (add users en-masse) > - Removeusers (remove users en-masse) > - Gethelp (simple help for telnet sessions) > - Web User Interface (scan for personal home pages and build an index of > them). > > All these have been tested successfully on Debian GNU/Linux and Red Hat > 6.x. They have not been tested on other platforms yet, specifically, Suse > Linux. Could anyone help by testing these packages on the Suse platform? > All the packages are freely available under the GPL. The address of the > download page is: > > http://www.lynxafrica.demon.co.uk/lfsp/ > > Please post feedback to the list! > > Wishes, Phil. Can I strongly encourage people to "have a go" with this one. We tested it here at St. John's and it went down a treat. Createusers and gethelp are both very simple to use. On the Windows side (an RM Connect 2.32 network) we used Teraterm to telnet to the LFSP linux server [hereinafter referred to as beech]. On the first session I started by simply showing them this rather battered and elderly Gateway P133 where it was sitting on the floor in my office and telling them that its name was beech, that it was running Linux [instant street cred ;-) ], that they all had accounts on it and that they could actually run their accounts on beech from the computer they are on at the moment with a telnet session. I then gave them their usernames [I kept them the same as their normal ones] and passwords, walked them through logging on and then asked for suggestions on what to do next. Those who had read the welcome screen suggested typing 'gethelp' which we did. The utility that really appeals to them with every class I've done this with is 'talk' so I quickly divided them into pairs, pointed them at it and got out of the way before I got run over (as 'twere). Far from being flummoxed by the shell prompt / command line / no bells and whistles environment they very quickly picked up the necessary unix conventions. In a later lesson I introduced them to 'pine' which also comes with the LFSP distribution. Now, these days, you'd think that only your hairiest chested and ancient-est unix hackers would actually use Pine and that whatever its merits its not suitable for the young and impressionable and so on. Not a bit of it, they took to it like ducks to water. It certainly made me think about what user-friendly actually means and revised my views on what sort of clients I need to provide them with. Anyway, if you give what Phil has produced with the Linux For Schools Project a go I can guarantee that both you and your students will have a lot of fun and learn a lot as well. Nigel Nigel Pauli St. John's School, Northwood http://www.st-johns.org.uk/

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Squid's up and running
by npauli 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

I'm actually working on doing that and I'll certainly make available what I produce. How useful it is likely to be is another matter altogether... Nigel. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Morden <roymorden(a)mail.com> To: npauli <npauli(a)st-johns.org.uk> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:34 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Squid's up and running > Have you documented this, and if so any chance of a copy? > Roy Morden > Network Manager > Baines School > Poulton-le-fylde > roymorden(a)mail.com <mailto:roymorden@mail.com> > > >

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Testers needed for Createusers, Removeusers, Gethelp, Web_UI
by Phil Jones 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Dear all, I have updated the following packages which I have written: - Createusers (add users en-masse) - Removeusers (remove users en-masse) - Gethelp (simple help for telnet sessions) - Web User Interface (scan for personal home pages and build an index of them). All these have been tested successfully on Debian GNU/Linux and Red Hat 6.x. They have not been tested on other platforms yet, specifically, Suse Linux. Could anyone help by testing these packages on the Suse platform? All the packages are freely available under the GPL. The address of the download page is: http://www.lynxafrica.demon.co.uk/lfsp/ Please post feedback to the list! Wishes, Phil.

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