Things that I would like to see from the Linux Community
Here are a few things that I would like to see from the Linux community as an educator. 1. A strong comittment from the Linux bigboys (SuSe, Redhat, and Xandros (Corel). I think that in order to make inroads into the educational community they are going to have to provide professional development opportunites for the regular classroom teacher. A teacher will use materials provided if they can deliver services to their students in a fast and effecient manner. Our time is very valuable during the school year, we need trained professional service and we don't care if it comes from M$ of Linux. 2. Software: 1. We need applications for our students (I've seen some already). It has to be cosmetically enhanced in order keep the attention of frequent video game players. 3. Teacher utility software. a. Lesson Planners. b. Gradebooks. c. Organizers. A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting. Lance
Could they just get suse or mandrake on and at least use the available CD programs, along with the the word processors, etc.?
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
I don't know. They need big time help. If you think that Public schools are bad you ought to see the Reservation schools!! Because of the lack of education of the older generation many leading officials have no education at all. Our school board President for this past year was a high school dropout. He was basically my boss. Many teachers here on the Rez are actually afraid of computers and only use them for wordprocessing and e-mail. Giant paper weights. Keith wrote:
Could they just get suse or mandrake on and at least use the available CD programs, along with the the word processors, etc.?
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
On Sunday 14 April 2002 16:28, Lance Lane wrote:
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
Hi, Lance: Well, let's get them up and running. All we need to do, is find a local body, interested in being our hands on this list, and we'll coordinate with the users list to get answers, and exciting things will happen. Lance is hereby 'Da Boss! Find out if your mom can track someone down to be the local contact. How's that sound? This'll be great. I want to volunteer, and will make a commitment to see this through with you, if you want. Thanks, Tom Reno, NV http://www.studioforrecording.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ http://renotahoe.pm.org/
Lance
Thanks Tom! :-) I am sending her an email to let her know. She and I are both gone during the day and they go to bed a bit early. I should know something tomorrow. I sure any help will be appreciated. tom poe wrote:
On Sunday 14 April 2002 16:28, Lance Lane wrote:
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
Hi, Lance: Well, let's get them up and running. All we need to do, is find a local body, interested in being our hands on this list, and we'll coordinate with the users list to get answers, and exciting things will happen. Lance is hereby 'Da Boss! Find out if your mom can track someone down to be the local contact. How's that sound? This'll be great. I want to volunteer, and will make a commitment to see this through with you, if you want. Thanks, Tom Reno, NV http://www.studioforrecording.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ http://renotahoe.pm.org/
Lance
You can count me in on that, too! Lance Lane wrote:
Thanks Tom! :-)
I am sending her an email to let her know. She and I are both gone during the day and they go to bed a bit early. I should know something tomorrow. I sure any help will be appreciated.
tom poe wrote:
On Sunday 14 April 2002 16:28, Lance Lane wrote:
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
Hi, Lance: Well, let's get them up and running. All we need to do, is find a local body, interested in being our hands on this list, and we'll coordinate with the users list to get answers, and exciting things will happen. Lance is hereby 'Da Boss! Find out if your mom can track someone down to be the local contact. How's that sound? This'll be great. I want to volunteer, and will make a commitment to see this through with you, if you want. Thanks, Tom Reno, NV http://www.studioforrecording.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ http://renotahoe.pm.org/
Lance
On Monday 15 April 2002 16:45, Alex wrote:
You can count me in on that, too!
Hi, Alex: Excellent! Folks, we may have a real good shot at this project, now that Alex, you're in. I'm really, really, hoping that there's Internet and email access close by. We'll find out, right? <grin> Thanks, Tom Poe Reno, NV http://www.studioforrecording.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ http://renotahoe.pm.org/
I remember reading an article where someone in the Phillipines booted a clean PC with a boot disk with some network support, and then someone else in Massachussetts installed Linux over the Internet onto the PC!! If there was someone local that had some basic computer skills, we might be able to get some kind of remote school support team together. It would be doable if we found enough volunteers who had free time at various times during the day... definitely easier than trying to remotely administer Win98 machines, believe me! I prefer the prospect of supporting a bunch of Linux boxes across the Internet than a bunch of Win98's even across a WAN. That's my current job, so I know! 8^) Alex Heizer http://www.synchcorp.com/alex http://www.synchcorp.com/alexheizer http://www.tekdevelopment.com tom poe wrote:
On Monday 15 April 2002 16:45, Alex wrote:
You can count me in on that, too!
Hi, Alex: Excellent! Folks, we may have a real good shot at this project, now that Alex, you're in. I'm really, really, hoping that there's Internet and email access close by. We'll find out, right? <grin> Thanks, Tom Poe Reno, NV http://www.studioforrecording.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ http://renotahoe.pm.org/
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On Monday 15 April 2002 19:41, Alex wrote:
I remember reading an article where someone in the Phillipines booted a clean PC with a boot disk with some network support, and then someone else in Massachussetts installed Linux over the Internet onto the PC!! If there was someone local that had some basic computer skills, we might be able to get some kind of remote school support team together. It would be doable if we found enough volunteers who had free time at various times during the day... definitely easier than trying to remotely administer Win98 machines, believe me! I prefer the prospect of supporting a bunch of Linux boxes across the Internet than a bunch of Win98's even across a WAN. That's my current job, so I know! 8^)
Alex Heizer http://www.synchcorp.com/alex http://www.synchcorp.com/alexheizer http://www.tekdevelopment.com
Hi: I think we can find plenty of volunteers. Plus, there should be enough resources to provide redundancy of some sort to hold things, if a problem does come up, maybe? Thanks, Tom Poe Reno, NV http://www.studioforrecording.org/ http://www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ http://renotahoe.pm.org/
* tom poe (tompoe@renonevada.net) [020415 20:12]:
Hi: I think we can find plenty of volunteers. Plus, there should be enough resources to provide redundancy of some sort to hold things, if a problem does come up, maybe?
I agree. I'd look first to your local Linux Users Group; it shouldn't be hard to get volunteers there. A complete list of LUGs can be found here: http://www.linux.org/groups/index.html -- -ckm
My wife is a Mac fan, and she pointed out that Apple donates lots of computing stuff to schools. Not to be off-topic in this Linux forum (Linux DOES run on Macs, including Suse 7.3!!) but maybe you could contact them with your particulars. With OSX being FreeBSD-based, a few of them could provide a quick setup that would be a nice backbone for 30 peecees running x86 Suse. :) Okay, so this was more of an "education" post than a "Suse" one... Alex Heizer http://www.synchcorp.com/alex http://www.synchcorp.com/alexheizer Lance Lane wrote:
Here are a few things that I would like to see from the Linux community as an educator.
1. A strong comittment from the Linux bigboys (SuSe, Redhat, and Xandros (Corel). I think that in order to make inroads into the educational community they are going to have to provide professional development opportunites for the regular classroom teacher. A teacher will use materials provided if they can deliver services to their students in a fast and effecient manner. Our time is very valuable during the school year, we need trained professional service and we don't care if it comes from M$ of Linux.
2. Software:
1. We need applications for our students (I've seen some already). It has to be cosmetically enhanced in order keep the attention of frequent video game players.
3. Teacher utility software.
a. Lesson Planners. b. Gradebooks. c. Organizers.
A strong comittment to rural schools. Where my mother in-law teachers for the S'kllalam Tribe in Washington State they had about 30 computers donated from a bank. Catch they have no operating system on them. I told her that it would be ideal to put Linux on those computers. They are dealing with M$ and the computers are still sitting.
Lance
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