August 2008 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-edu] Upcoming #opensuse-edu Meeting Tuesday 2008/08/12 19:00 CEST (17:00 GMT)
by Lars Vogdt 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Hi all Education fans! The next openSUSE-Education meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-edu IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/opensuse-edu) on Tuesday 2008/08/12 19:00 CEST (17:00 UTC/GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE-Education. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Meetings/Education_Meeting_2008-08-12 Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have questions you want to see discussed, please add them to the meeting wiki page as well. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Meetings For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter “IRC help” into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ ;(not affiliated with openSUSE either). Have a lot of fun … Lars (on behalf of the openSUSE-Education Team) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] Announcing KIWI-LTSP 0.4.4 with localapp support and Easy-LTSP update
by CyberOrg 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Hello Community Thanks to all the hard work done by the developers at the LTSP hackfest we now have local apps support out of box. KIWI-LTSP 0.4.4 now has these additional features apart from live USB/CD client images: - Firefox installed in the client chroot so the more resource intensive load can be run using clients hardware. To launch local firefox, run "xrexec /usr/bin/firefox" - Improved kiwi-ltsp-bootimages package with eepc support fixed I am happy to also share that Easy-LTSP - GUI tool for managing ltsp is now almost complete, packages for openSUSE and Fedora are already available, we need someone to debianize it. Here is the transcript of the meeting we had yesterday: http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/ltsp-gui-meeting-08-aug.txt More information in Easy-LTSP - openSUSE Google Summer of Code project can be found here: http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Easy-LTSP We have restructured wiki to make it easier to get all the information required, check it out here for installation and other information: http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP Add-on iso is also available for openSUSE 11.0 if you prefer off-line installation instead of via 1-click: http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/iso Have a lot of fun... -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] News from Easy-LTSP
by CyberOrg 11 Aug '08

11 Aug '08

Hello Community Just forwarding the post from Jan Weber, openSUSE GSOC student working on Easy-LTSP. "As GSoC is almost over Easy-LTSP is going into a new round!" Checkout his post and a screenshot: http://www.luckylemon.de/?p=29 Start testing as this tool is made for you, we have about couple of weeks to get bugs fixed and get features you think is missing implemented. Take full advantage of this generosity from Google ;) Kind regards -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] italc problem on suse 11
by jpd 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Stock Suse 11 patched up to date italc of edu repos followed the instructions in the readme file. generated the key test it on same machine, as some of the website say, no joy... error from italc is that it can't read the key file, thats as root, chmod +r etc... I just can't read the file. Removed the file and gen the key again, no joy. ???? Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] Too many packages in the patterns?
by Lars Vogdt 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

Hi all Refering to: http://www.opensuse-education.org/mantis/view.php?id=70 it looks like we've too many packages which are installed per default if a user adds the openSUSE-Education Add on (repository or DVD is the same). I like to give a short explanation about the current structure and the "magic" behind the patterns. -----------------------------------[edu-pattern] We currently have the following entry in the content file of the repository: RECOMMENDS pattern:education-full ^^^ this line adds the pattern file with the same name into the software proposal of YaST. you can find that pattern in the directory suse/setup/descr/ in the repository (with 11.0 the format changes and all pattern files are pasted together to one gzip'ed pattern file, so have a look at the 10.2 or 10.3 pattern to get the example: http://www.opensuse-education.org/download/repo/1.0/10.2/suse/setup/descr/e… You can see: this pattern file _Req_uires the x11 pattern and _Rec_ommends three edu-patterns: education-desktop kids-education-desktop youth-education-desktop Now an overview about the current patterns: 1) education-desktop => Software which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. - kiosktool - sabayon - italc ^^^ generic packages which makes the live of an administrator or teacher easier in schools. 2) kids-education-desktop => Software for small kids (4-10 years) which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. - gcompris - childsplay - pysycache - ... ^^^ "real" packages for the kids 3) youth-education-desktop => Software for youths (11-14 years) which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. - LabPlot - audacity - bluefish - ... ^^^ "real" packages for older children We also have two patterns for server applications right now: - edu-server - kiwi-ltsp ^^^ those patterns are NOT selected by default. People who try to setup a server have to select them manually. All pattern files are created as normal RPM packages and are "developed" using Subversion and a simple directory and file structure. So neither adding packages nor translating the descriptions is a big deal. Some examples and information can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Development#The_development_of_pattern_fil… -----------------------------------[/edu-pattern] So I want to ask for help! * Please provide some new proposals how we can split the current patterns into smaller parts. * Which patterns and packages should be installed per default? * Which packages should be suggested ? With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] EDU-CD (DVD) for openSUSE 11.0. make the point
by Andrea Florio 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, right now we are on a great status with edu-cd development, so i think, we should make the point. First of all, i added 2 new packages, one is GNS3 that is a graphical network simulator (it is used to simulate CISCO IOS) that succesfull build; the second is kradview as wishlist request. Second : we have only 4 packages on 32 bit and 6 on 64bit that fail, and right now, i have no idea how to fix them. But don't worry, suse 11.0 is the one that have more succeded packages build 194 an x86 and 154 on x86_64 right now we have edu-cd beta1 that need to be tested as soon as possible, also because on october we have a project on mind on italian schools that need a stable addon. (did you remeber about DIDASCA?) 3rd thing to end.. we should start to work on docs and on EDU-BOOK. Thanks for attention, waiting for replys! Andrea Florio -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiXhqcACgkQyCZT87TFPuiTjgCdGTLKkUf9X9Y5NF7rT1AxQ4EY trcAoIaU/iS3rXAHtc3MJIc5hiwkRHNg =Zb1t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-edu] Too many packages in the patterns?
by Jordi Massaguer 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Just a hint. If you want to create YaST modules that appear during the installation when selecting the opensuse edu you can "easily" do that by: 1- Write ycp module (obvious :) ) 2- make an rpm from that is installed on the system (quite obvious too :) ) 3- modify the control.xml on the installed system (not so obvious, but that is the trick :) ) The control.xml file on the installed system contains the workflow of the modules you want to run on firstboot, so you could modify that before the first boot and then your modules will be called. I am not sure which is the better way to modify this file, or if the addon yast module does that for you. Actually, that might be the best way, by making the addon yast module do that if it does not already. If you do that, send the patch to the yast people so they integrate it for you at the next versions. hope it helps jordi massaguer i pla http://jordimassaguerpla.blogspot.com/ openSUSE member Novell Certified Linux Professional 10 ----- Mensaje original ---- > De: James Tremblay <jamesat(a)comcast.net> > Para: Lars Vogdt <lrupp(a)suse.de> > CC: opensuse-edu(a)opensuse.org > Enviado: miércoles, 6 de agosto, 2008 5:28:02 > Asunto: Re: [opensuse-edu] Too many packages in the patterns? > > Lars Vogdt wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Refering to: > > http://www.opensuse-education.org/mantis/view.php?id=70 > > > > it looks like we've too many packages which are installed per default if > > a user adds the openSUSE-Education Add on (repository or DVD is the > > same). > > > > I like to give a short explanation about the current structure and > > the "magic" behind the patterns. > > -----------------------------------[edu-pattern] > > We currently have the following entry in the content file of the > > repository: > > RECOMMENDS pattern:education-full > > ^^^ this line adds the pattern file with the same name into the software > > proposal of YaST. > > > > you can find that pattern in the directory suse/setup/descr/ in the > > repository (with 11.0 the format changes and all pattern files are > > pasted together to one gzip'ed pattern file, so have a look at the 10.2 > > or 10.3 pattern to get the example: > > > http://www.opensuse-education.org/download/repo/1.0/10.2/suse/setup/descr/e… > > > > You can see: this pattern file _Req_uires the x11 pattern and > > _Rec_ommends three edu-patterns: > > education-desktop > > kids-education-desktop > > youth-education-desktop > > > > Now an overview about the current patterns: > > 1) education-desktop > > => Software which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. > > - kiosktool > > - sabayon > > - italc > > ^^^ generic packages which makes the live of an administrator or teacher > > easier in schools. > > > > 2) kids-education-desktop > > => Software for small kids (4-10 years) which can be used in educational > > enviroments on client site. > > - gcompris > > - childsplay > > - pysycache > > - ... > > ^^^ "real" packages for the kids > > > > 3) youth-education-desktop > > => Software for youths (11-14 years) which can be used in educational > > enviroments on client site. > > - LabPlot > > - audacity > > - bluefish > > - ... > > ^^^ "real" packages for older children > > > > We also have two patterns for server applications right now: > > - edu-server > > - kiwi-ltsp > > ^^^ those patterns are NOT selected by default. People who try to setup > > a server have to select them manually. > > > > All pattern files are created as normal RPM packages and are "developed" > > using Subversion and a simple directory and file structure. So neither > > adding packages nor translating the descriptions is a big deal. > > > > Some examples and information can be found here: > > http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Development#The_development_of_pattern_fil… > > > > -----------------------------------[/edu-pattern] > > > > So I want to ask for help! > > > > * Please provide some new proposals how we can split the current > > patterns into smaller parts. > > * Which patterns and packages should be installed per default? > > * Which packages should be suggested ? > > > > With kind regards, > > Lars > > > > > > > > > > Lars and the Team, > It is great that we are able to "build" so much software for the > Education repository. Great work and Thanks to all of you! Now we need > to create a real product. I had always thought that we could add > questions to the YaST installer to make the "add-on" more useful to > school IT people and parents. I would like to suggest that we separate > the repository into "folders" that represent the install > environments|patterns and age groups already defined (see above) then if > it's possible "inject" questions into the existing YaST module or create > a new YaST installer for the add-on DVD to install these groups. I'm > thinking that putting the DVD into an already running system could > "autorun" a web page that contains "One-Click" YMP's and the pattern > descriptions. (could this module also figure out which desktop is used > and exclude KDE only packages on a Gnome machine or vice versa?) . When > installing the OS on a machine, choosing the ADD-ON media and inserting > the disk would add a few extra questions to the YaST installer that are > the same choices as the YMP's in the autorun. > example- > Thanks for choosing the openSUSE Education ADD-On! > Do you want to build an : > education-server > y or n > kids-education-desktop designed for children ages 4-10 > y or n > youth-education-desktop designed for children ages 11-14 > y or n > secondary education-desktop designed for ages 15 - adult > y or n > Do you want classroom management tools? > y or n > > I believe that the desktop\classroom management tools such as italc > should be offered as an individual choice. I don't think it's necessary > for us subdivide the groups beyond basic age and desktop. > > Do we need to create a wiki page that includes a spreadsheet\table that > allows us to separate the packeages? example > title, gnome, kde, 4-10, 11-14, 15-adult. > tuxpaint,yes, , yes, , > then we can know for sure which packages to include in each group. > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org ______________________________________________ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-edu] unsubscribe
by Carsten Niehaus 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

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