January 2002 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility
by Grainge, Derek 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

> > Or possibly even copy a bodge from something else and > move to expontial bodging. If you want to know about Bodging, look at Capita's Mentor and SIMS appications. They are the creme de la creme of bodgers. However they are rewriting their software (which was largely Foxbase, but many separate apps with some very nasty glue) in SQL... but I think they too will end up being MS-specific. -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of inappropriate attachments and certain obscenities. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. ********************************************************************************

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility
by Grainge, Derek 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

They didn't realise the limitations of MySQL to begin with, eg deficiencies in stored procedures. They should have looked at ProstgreSQL... Capita are talking to a few schools carefully about content and format at the user end, but they have not discussed the back end at all. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Harris [mailto:alanh@bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch.uk] > Sent: 25 January 2002 14:49 > To: Grainge, Derek > Cc: 'Mark Evans'; Frank(a)esperance-linux.co.uk; Nial; Schools List > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility > > > Sims are going to be M$ specific, originally thier data > sheets and specs > suggested they would be using MySQL, however, I think they were leaned > on(?) > > Alan > > "Grainge, Derek" wrote: > > > > > > > > Or possibly even copy a bodge from something else and > > > move to expontial bodging. > > > > If you want to know about Bodging, look at Capita's Mentor and SIMS > > appications. They are the creme de la creme of bodgers. > However they are > > rewriting their software (which was largely Foxbase, but > many separate apps > > with some very nasty glue) in SQL... but I think they too > will end up being > > MS-specific. > > > > -- > > > ************************************************************** > ****************** > > All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission > > of inappropriate attachments and certain obscenities. > > Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email > contents. > > Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. > > > ************************************************************** > ****************** > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Alan Harris > Network Manager > Bryngwyn School > > Tel : 01554 750661 > Fax : 01554 758255 > E-mail: alanh(a)bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch.uk > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Notes: > > 1. The contents of this email may be snooped on by > interested government parties for unknown purposes! > Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000. > > 2. The opinions expressed in this email are personal > and may not be shared by Bryngwyn School. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of inappropriate attachments and certain obscenities. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. ********************************************************************************

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility
by Chris Puttick 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

We look forward to making you all very happy. Very soon. Chris P.S. I love being obtuse/mysterious anyway, but there is a good reason this time... -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnson To: SuSe Sent: 1/25/02 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility --- "Grainge, Derek" <DGG(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk> wrote: > > > > Or possibly even copy a bodge from something else > and > > move to expontial bodging. > > If you want to know about Bodging, look at Capita's > Mentor and SIMS > appications. They are the creme de la creme of > bodgers. Surely you're not refering to the SIMS software suite that I have to deal with on a daily basis. A beautiful and carefully constructed _mix_, taken from a variety of computing eras. Friendly and 'improving' Herts ICT support send me between five and seven network wide updates a _year_ that keep me busy through my spare time. I don't know what I would do with my time without it. It really is outrageously bad crap. Bloody stuff makes my life a whole heap harder. The end user is forced to endure system beeps from old DOS modules! And, as for consistency of user interface through similar tasks - what consistency. BUT, it is _so_ pushed by the LEA, it would be a _very_ brave move to come away. I'm not sure I'd have the expertise or the bottle to try. At least when SIMS falls over, the LEA can't hassle me for the PLASC data - because all the other schools are in the same "it don't work" situation. There's some safety in numbers - and the buck would otherwise stop firmly at my feet. BTW - the last SIMS upgrade screwed us quite badly. It broke our network for a couple of hours as I reinstalled a .dll that it corrupted that was needed for our internet connection. Prior to the upgrade, Herts helpdesk actually said " Oh you may want to come in at a weeekend for this one - some schools have had real trouble with it." I fell over laughing. Then politely thanked them for their advice. -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility
by Chris Puttick 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

Try Borland Interbase OE - much higher performance than MS SQL Server, with the assurance of a big brand name and option of paying for support. Also SuSE do a database solution... BTW, how much is that costing, and have they committed to it? -----Original Message----- From: Mike Elliott To: Suse-Linux-Uk-Schools (E-mail) Sent: 1/18/02 11:30 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility We are looking to deploy CCM's Facility timetable / scheduler next September which uses M$ SQL 7 as standard. Does any one out there use this software with a Linux DB, DB2 and Oracle are the most obvious. My manager is not keen on MYSQL, but if some one is using it for this successfully it might change his mind! Any information would be useful. Thanks in advance. Mike Elliott IT System Eng. James Allen's Girls' School (Registered Charity Number 312750) East Dulwich Grove London SE22 8TE Telephone: +44 (0) 20 8693 1181 Fax: +44 (0) 20 8693 7842 Web site: http://www.jags.org.uk/ This e-mail is for the exclusive and confidential use of the addressee. Any other distribution, use or reproduction without our prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by telephone immediately. No engagements are entered into by the School except by a letter or fax bearing an authorised employee's or governor's signature. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Grabbing files , http only
by Matt Johnson 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Hi all, I want to write a simple script to go to a certain website and download a file on a daily basis. The site might be www.someplace.com and the file may be getme.txt Would I use Lynx in there somehow? I planned to use FTP to an FTP server, using automated (.netrc) FTP in cron, but our firewall (and proxy) at the ISP (NTL) isn't up for that. It worked from home :( So, I want to use http to save www.someplace.com/getme.txt to /root/getme.txt on our local machine. If it is using Lynx to do it, how do I set this up to use the NTL proxy? Thanks for you thoughts. -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility
by Grainge, Derek 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

> transition from one year group to the next? Also, some details > seem saved multiple times across many tables, rather than just > being saved once in a single table. Many of these programs keep a 'history' of the pupil so you can trace back in time. Just a thought. -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of inappropriate attachments and certain obscenities. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. ********************************************************************************

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility
by Mike Elliott 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Thanks Roger, I have been talking to your sales team about this very product, it's just that CCM do not know any one who has used this solution. If you, or anybody else, knows of such an installation I would be pleased to hear from them. Thanks for all the feedback, +'s and -'s, please keep it coming and I will keep you posted with my progress. Mike Elliott. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Whittaker [mailto:roger@suse.co.uk] Sent: 24 January 2002 06:00 To: Chris Puttick Cc: 'Mike Elliott '; 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] CCM Facility Our `Database Server' from our business products range is IMB's DB2 on top of the SuSE Linux Enterprise Server, and has been available for a while. http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/products/suse_business/database_server/index.html We also resell Adabas http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/products/software/databases/adabas/index.html Both these are third party and under commercial licences. However, going back to the earlier posts in this thread, the more people shout at the vendor about the meaning of `any', the better. On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Chris Puttick wrote: > Try Borland Interbase OE - much higher performance than MS SQL Server, with > the assurance of a big brand name and option of paying for support. Also > SuSE do a database solution... > > BTW, how much is that costing, and have they committed to it? -- ------------------- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ------------------ 020 8387 1482 ------------------ roger(a)suse.co.uk ------------------

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Initialisation ext3 partition on /
by Derek Harding 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

Hi folks, I have mounted / on an ext3 partition (SuSE 7.3) and every time I boot it does a file system check. I know the problem is with an initialisation script and is due to a typing error. Can anyone enlighten me? I can't find the correction on SuSE's site and my email to support was subject of an auto-reply but the robot doesn't seem able to provide an answer only a ticket number! Has anyone with a thinkpad found the mwavemd module loaded onto their system from the SuSE 7 series distributions? Mine says it can't find the module major-10-219. It's in modules.conf but locate and find don't locate or find it either. -- Best wishes, Derek

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It can't be that easy?
by Matt Johnson 22 Jan '02

22 Jan '02

Folks, Am I right in thinking that I could symlink /etc/passwd and /etc/group from a 'server' (main machine) to others to enable network logons? What other files would need linking? Am I also right in thinking that I could map /home to said 'server' from all 'clients'? If I can do both these things, why use NIS? Cheers as always, -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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FW: [seul-edu] [Fwd: [school-discuss] About Open Source in Europe an Union]
by Chris Puttick 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

-----Original Message----- From: Doug Loss To: seul-edu(a)seul.org Sent: 1/19/02 3:08 PM Subject: [seul-edu] [Fwd: [school-discuss] About Open Source in European Union] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [school-discuss] About Open Source in European Union Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 03:14:36 +0000 From: Teemu <teemu(a)ionstream.fi> Reply-To: schoolforge-discuss(a)schoolforge.net To: schoolforge-discuss(a)schoolforge.net Hey people, did you know that European Union is offering funding for various (also Open Source) eLearning projects inside the EU region. Now it's time to write and send an application because the period for applications is closing in end of March, 2002. I think it's possible to get support for Open Source eLearning projects. In Council of the European Union Resolution, 2001/C 204/02, chapter 10) part VIII, Invites the commission: "To support the development of European multilingual educational resources, platforms and services, taking into account, when necessary, education and training-related aspects of intellectual property rights and the use of new distribution methods, and the development and promotion of internationally aspected standards and open source software" ( http://europa.eu.int/comm/education/elearning/reso_en.pdf ) Some other links: http://europa.eu.int/comm/education/elearning/index.html http://europa.eu.int/information_society/eeurope/index_en.htm Regards, Teemu Arina MimerDesk.org

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