January 2002 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

DHCP Problems
by Rob Keeling 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

I am just configuring a number of Suse 7.3 machines on our (currently) NT4.0 network however they stubbornly refuse to work with DHCP, however static IP`s are fine. The DHCP server is running on NT 4. What I would like to know is:- How do I make Suse look up a IP etc from the NT server. Can I use the info in the NT 4 wins server to create DNS info for the Linux machines? I am considering moving DNS & DHCP to linux in the future, but would like to get things working with NT for now. Any help gratefully received! Rob Keeling Network Manager Queen Elizabeth`s Grammar School Ashbourne

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT
by Chris Puttick 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

In answer to your money question: don't worry, and watch this space... In the words of Baldrick ,I have a cunning (evil in MS terms) plan. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Dawkins To: Matt Johnson Cc: SuSe Sent: 1/11/02 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT > Did I miss some stands? I could only find Michael > Brown's Fen Systems stand. Were SuSE there? Were > anyone else there? Perhaps I had my eyes shut - I > didn't get round all of it. I got round most of it, and was upset - there was less Linux than last year. Only Michael really. The man at the IBM stand had heard of Suse but wasn't sure about it. There was one Cobalt Qube, and there was NetBSD on the Precedence stand, and of course a few other stands (such as Atomwide) were powered by OSS servers. It is unfortunately very expensive to lay on a BETT stand, but it is really the premier UK education event. I was approached by many software sellers, most of whom were bemused when I asked them for a KDE version. One salesman selling software based on IIS/ASP had never heard of Apache and clearly didn't believe me when I said it powered more web sites than IIS, because he knew that Microsoft had 90% of the market. I think we need to rally behind Michael, Ian and Roger for next year. There needs to be a bigger presence, with more oomf - in particular, with an expensive line so external sites can be demonstrated. In this respect I think a few wireless portables could be extremely useful. I was carrying a Nokia 9210 and was able to demonstrate my site while on other people's stands - very useful indeed on two occasions. With two stands cleverly located we might cover a good 50% of the area, and the battle can be carried into the opposition's territory. Like looking up, live, the statistics for Apache vs IIS servers. But where are the funds and man^H^H^Hpersonpower going to come from? -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-822698/821076 or 07798 636725 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Simple fix...text mode?
by Matt Johnson 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

With the benefit of twenty twenty hindsight, I can see that I've been a bit stupid.... With the default set to init 5, I've screwed my X up. What, you've never (never) done that? How do I boot a RedHat 7.2 installation into text mode, so I can run Xconfigurator? Thanks in advance. -- Matt "broken linux box" Johnson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT
by Chris Puttick 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

SuSE couldn't find a partner - I believe last year they were on the IBM stand. I'm going tomorrow, but I've been told there wasn't much interesting. Did Fen System's look good? I'm trying to sell their solution for them (not on commission) and some of these people are a touch shallow... -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnson To: SuSe Sent: 1/11/02 11:54 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT Hi folks, Did I miss some stands? I could only find Michael Brown's Fen Systems stand. Were SuSE there? Were anyone else there? Perhaps I had my eyes shut - I didn't get round all of it. Cheers -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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BETT
by Matt Johnson 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Hi folks, Did I miss some stands? I could only find Michael Brown's Fen Systems stand. Were SuSE there? Were anyone else there? Perhaps I had my eyes shut - I didn't get round all of it. Cheers -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT - next year
by Stephen Ogden 12 Jan '02

12 Jan '02

>I am thinking of organising a stand for BETT next year that would be a >joint >effort by a number of Linux parties eg SUSE, Mandrake, Redhat, and perhaps >small companies from this list. If there is sufficient interest - and I >believe now is the time to start planning - collective strength would be >better. I also think that by next bet we will have several 10s of schools >at >least using Linux at the desktop and so it will have much more impact. While I think this is a good idea... I think it is worth mentioning that 10+ companies on one stand (for example) could actually give the reverse impression.. that Linux is marginalised and not popular.. whereas a whole bunch of Linux oriented stands in a group.. or spaced around the areans.. might be more pervasive. Actually the one stand that interested me most was 'Name forgotton' that sold hardware & software for web-filtering/proxy/cache/etc/etc all for about £2,000 ... but what struck me was that it was all running on Linux.. and that wasn't even really advertised. It was simply a good product.. for a good price. In fact I walked back uninterested until my subconscious made me go back to check out the monitor.. which gave away that it was running debian. Anyway.. back to the point... wouldn't there be some way to stands sponsored by free software advocates.. even FSF so that Linux could get more _space_ at BETT next year. More space is probably better than more companies crowded into one stand. -- Azrael ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `0_ O ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((i).-'' ((i).' (((.-' Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with a cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat. ICQ#52944566 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT
by Chris Puttick 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

That would be *took* part -----Original Message----- From: Chris Puttick To: 'SuSe ' Sent: 1/11/02 3:01 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT The centre manager went to the Microsoft stand and listened to the XP presentation. He then talk part in a quiz and won a prize of a MS Internet Keyboard! The nice shiny box was slightly damaged, but he wasn't concerned. He was however rather more concerned when he got it home. The box was empty... MS living up to its image? BTW, the next generation of thin client Linux boxes won't have a hard drive and would therefore be unable to run windows. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnson To: SuSe Sent: 1/11/02 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT --- Chris Puttick <chris(a)centralmanclc.com> wrote: > SuSE couldn't find a partner - I believe last year > they were on the IBM > stand. I'm going tomorrow, but I've been told there > wasn't much interesting. > > Did Fen System's look good? I'm trying to sell their > solution for them (not > on commission) and some of these people are a touch > shallow... I enjoyed meeting Michael Brown at Fen, and chatting for a few minutes. The stand is small, but is nicely set out. The products are clearly defined and with investigation by punters, the products will appeal. Nice one Michael. "Shallow people" will go for the glitz of the Microsoft stand, which in terms of real estate is predictably dominating. They are pushing some new-fangle gadget (something called "XP"?). They seemed to think it was quite good. I spoke to a representative on the stand, and was particularly impressed with a 'School Agreement' scheme, wherein, as I'm sure you'll know (I didn't), you purchase licences for all you workstations _capable_ of running Microsoft product. Splendid. You even have to licence your Linux boxes for Microsoft products, because they are on-site. Oh, and you don't even have the burden of owning the licence. You rent it. I thought this sounded like an excellent scheme, and, after recovering from my choking episode, I pointed out the merits and demerits of his plan for our school. He analysed our particular situation, and thought that, on reflection, some other purchase scheme may suit us best. I agreed with him that he was probably right, and we parted. A good day - low Linux presence :( -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ <http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT
by Chris Puttick 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

The centre manager went to the Microsoft stand and listened to the XP presentation. He then talk part in a quiz and won a prize of a MS Internet Keyboard! The nice shiny box was slightly damaged, but he wasn't concerned. He was however rather more concerned when he got it home. The box was empty... MS living up to its image? BTW, the next generation of thin client Linux boxes won't have a hard drive and would therefore be unable to run windows. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnson To: SuSe Sent: 1/11/02 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT --- Chris Puttick <chris(a)centralmanclc.com> wrote: > SuSE couldn't find a partner - I believe last year > they were on the IBM > stand. I'm going tomorrow, but I've been told there > wasn't much interesting. > > Did Fen System's look good? I'm trying to sell their > solution for them (not > on commission) and some of these people are a touch > shallow... I enjoyed meeting Michael Brown at Fen, and chatting for a few minutes. The stand is small, but is nicely set out. The products are clearly defined and with investigation by punters, the products will appeal. Nice one Michael. "Shallow people" will go for the glitz of the Microsoft stand, which in terms of real estate is predictably dominating. They are pushing some new-fangle gadget (something called "XP"?). They seemed to think it was quite good. I spoke to a representative on the stand, and was particularly impressed with a 'School Agreement' scheme, wherein, as I'm sure you'll know (I didn't), you purchase licences for all you workstations _capable_ of running Microsoft product. Splendid. You even have to licence your Linux boxes for Microsoft products, because they are on-site. Oh, and you don't even have the burden of owning the licence. You rent it. I thought this sounded like an excellent scheme, and, after recovering from my choking episode, I pointed out the merits and demerits of his plan for our school. He analysed our particular situation, and thought that, on reflection, some other purchase scheme may suit us best. I agreed with him that he was probably right, and we parted. A good day - low Linux presence :( -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Alternative Multimedia Server
by Mike Rees 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

Hi Our Head of IT (who has final say) wants to spend a LARGE sum of money (not including ANY software) buying a 'R'eady 'M'ade Multimedia server which would take some of the load off our other 'R'eady 'M'ade server. I need a Linux powered alternative which would prove too attractive financially (She already knows some of the other advantages) to ignore. This is how things work at present. All (approx 100) stations have a copy of virtual cd on them. Virtual CDs drives are added to a station and images are then made of CD titles which can be inserted ejected through a command/graphical frontend. These images (in a proprietary format, not iso) are kept on the server, their size reflects the amount of data on the cd they came from. The stations access the images through a single share. So, What kind of hardware would I need? I have some general idea, eg scsi, as much mem as poss etc Would samba be able to handle sharing these large image files to multiple users? Would the server be able to handle been used as something else? eg a CUPS print server, handling obese M$ office files. Are there any disadvantages? eg how easy is it to get the stations to remap the image share? Has anybody already tried this? As always, thanks in advance for any advice I have until the 15th January to dissuade and persuade. Mike Rees Ysgol Glanymor School

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Apologies in advance
by Grainge, Derek 11 Jan '02

11 Jan '02

If for various reasons he MUST use a text file, that's not a problem. Access can treat it as a table if you do the following: File, Get external data, link tables Find the text file (he should have created a dummy one already, with a header row!!) and answer a few questions about its structure. He needs to identify field types as well. The best format is comma separated csv. This appears as a table in Access but with an arrow beside it denoting the link. Any changes to the table will be made to the original file automatically. You can do anything you want in forms, queries that you'd do to a normal table. No VB required at all, and the import's dynamic not static. Is this what he needs to do? Warning - the text file driver is fairly slow - so expect Access to be less responsive when accessing this file. (As indeed it is with most linked files). PS I tried mailing your school address and got this: Your message has encountered delivery problems to the following recipient(s): ptaylor(a)westwood-st-thomas.wilts.sch.uk Delivery failed Unable to deliver to destination domain Can't interpret host name, or non-existant host -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of inappropriate attachments and certain obscenities. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. ********************************************************************************

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