Here's on to get your teeth into...spending other peoples money.
I've got an extra 5k to spend next year.
Assuming I might want to spend a bit on a fes more Win98 machines
and I'm looking to set up this Linux served network what should I be spending the money on?
South Lee School
Does anyone (i am sure you all do) know how to successfully stream video files from an apache web server?
On my old win 95 personal web server it streamed video at an acceptable rate. Under apache it copies the files to the local hard drive.
any help is appreciated
Don't think this got through first time - if it did, then appologies ....
> Do I need to create a service (similar to SWAT) to allow a user to run
> the html script and access the cgi file? What address do I need to include
> in the html script so that the cgi script can be linked to?
How much do you know about CGI scripts ? Assuming that you
haven't come across these before (forgive me if this assumption
is incorrect), but you will need a web server to 'serve them up'
(apache is the usual choice for Linux).
Basically, the HTML file will do in the documents area of the
web server and the CGI script will go in the 'scripts area'.
These are 'htdocs' (sometimes 'html') and cgi-bin respectively
for apache (often installed in /home/httpd).
The client connects to the HTML and CGI scripts via a web
browser using something like :
Which in turn will probably invoke the script, which
could also be called directly at :
There may well be a '<form ... >' statement in the
passwd.html with an 'action=xyz' bit. This may have to
be changed to point to the passwd.cgi script, as seen
by users via your web server (for example above,
this would be something like 'action=/cgi-bin/passwd.cgi').
Does this help at all ? Drop me a line if you need more details.
Northants Linux Users Group
There is not much you can do in advance I think - privacy of emails may
also be an issue. We have an internal mail server and I archive all
incoming and outgoing emails so in principle I could track a thread back to
source and tie in with terminal user logs. In practice, many students use
Hotmail et al, so there is no record of their emails at all. I agree that
sanction after the event may be the best answer.
St Mary's Hall School
At 21:08 15/06/00 +0100, you wrote:
>Just wonder if anyone does anything active to prevent cyber bullying and
>stalking of students by students?
>We have a policy of no sexist, racist or offensive e-mails (students only
>have internal e-mail) and we test e-mail content for obvious abuse of
>English but no true filtering.
>E-mail is a powerful weapon for bullies and I wonder if we should take a
>more firm action to prevent it. Any thoughts?
>Best wishes, Derek Harding
This is a common mailbox with many users.
Please include the recipients name in the subject line to ease delivery.
Messages addressed to:
"Firstname Familyname" <stmaryshall(a)btinternet.com>
will be routed automatically.
Views expressed in this email are those of the author only.
Is there anything sinister about the rejection of this message? Not
sure whether to smile or worry.
And thanks to all who replied already. I think we may stick with RM
for the moment, but I'm going to try and experiment with Linux ready
for the next time we have to make a decision. I'm also trying to push
the idea of RM adopting Linux and the underlying server software
rather than NT. Surely tha would save them money, as well as us.
On 20/6/00 administrator(a)hundredhoo.medway.sch.uk wrote:
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>Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Linux and Thin Client Technology
>We are currently running RM Connect, but are looking into the
>possibility of introducing a thin client server set-up, essentially
>to enable us to continue to run older machines such as 386s and
>Apple LCs, while updating software.
>A major part of the cost will still be licences. So I am very
>attracted by the idea of Linux.
>What are the possibilities? Can it be done, and if so which system be best?
>I should greatly appreciate any help you can give me.
>Head of Learning Resources
>Northbrook C of E School
>London SE12 8PD
>Tel: (+44) 020 8852 3191
>Fax: (+44) 020 8463 0201
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Head of Learning Resources
Northbrook C of E School
London SE12 8PD
Tel: (+44) 020 8852 3191
Fax: (+44) 020 8463 0201
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I don't think this ever made it to the list ...
They were probably free `in the sense of free beer'...
Now it seems they're not.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:37:28 +0100 (BST)
From: Mark Evans <mpe(a)st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk>
To: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] May be of interest ...
> I don't think it ever was really free.
> The home page is at
Bits of the the FAQ appear to imply that
both the Windows and Mac version may
have been freeware at one time.
Maybe the concept was just too frightening.
Paying money appears to be the norm in the
Windows world. There are a lot of trivial
utilities listed on www.winfiles.com,
even ports of GPL or BSD licenced software
which people appear to want money for.
> An alternative (free) that's worth looking at is vnc:
An alternative only in some ways. VNC is conceptually
similar to the Netware utility RCONSOLE.
> There are of course other X servers for Windows.
There used to be some free ones arround.
St. Peter's CofE High School
Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109
Fax: +44 1392 204763
I know, it sounds like something very painful ....
Organization for Free Software in Education and Teaching
There's a web site at
but nothing really on it yet...
SuSE Linux Ltd
The Kinetic Centre
020 8387 1482
Some time ago I asked for help - how to add large numbers of users and in
particular how to import them from other systems eg Acorn L4.
Well I've finally got most of the bits in place (thanks to everyone who
helped - in particular Richard Naylor).
My solution involves a spreadsheet for preparation of the file (I use
!Fireworkz) and the creation of a script with one line for each user.
eg /usr/sbin/adduser -d /home/96/bp.Amy bp.Amy
and then another multiple line script for setting passwords
eg ./autopasswd bp.Amy guizmo
Where autopasswd is a script which uses the Expect language and processes
the passwords without the need for any intervention. I've modified
autopasswd to include delays which improves the success rate and also
modified it to work with smbpasswd. Autopasswd should be on most people's
systems. I use ftp to transfer the script from my RiscPC to the Linux
server as a text file and then changed permissions.
I'm sure people could come up with more elegant solutions but hey .... it
works. PS I'm a big spreadsheet fan for work of this type.
If anyone needs any more info then I'll try and help.
However, I've got another problem. In the Expect distribution there are
two files called passwd.html which accesses passwd.cgi on the server. I do
not understand how to make this combination work so that users can change
passwords. I've got SWAT working but that seems too complex for kids to
use. Do I need to create a service (similar to SWAT) to allow a user to run
the html script and access the cgi file? What address do I need to include
in the html script so that the cgi script can be linked to?
I've forwarded this to the schools list as it came direct to me ...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:16:26 +0100
From: john kinchin <ajkinchin(a)physicist.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Cyber bullying
a real low level problem here, but this is where some of us are!
I have a fully working network with linux as the server, the rest of the
machines are win 95 (ugh). Is there a piece of software that will allow any
of my win 95 machines to connect to the internet via the linux box. The
modem is on the server running linux and is set up for the internet already.
any suggestions would be useful
boston grammar school