June 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

5K to spend..suggestions
by James H. Carter & Cybèle de Jong 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Here's on to get your teeth into...spending other peoples money. I've got an extra 5k to spend next year. Assuming I might want to spend a bit on a fes more Win98 machines and I'm looking to set up this Linux served network what should I be spending the money on? James Carter South Lee School www.southlee.demon.co.uk JHC(a)southlee.demon.co.uk

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apache
by john kinchin 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Does anyone (i am sure you all do) know how to successfully stream video files from an apache web server? On my old win 95 personal web server it streamed video at an acceptable rate. Under apache it copies the files to the local hard drive. any help is appreciated aj kinchin

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Pen Pals(2)
by graham.spratt＠tinyonline.co.uk 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Sorry I fogot to put the age range on the last email. The children are aged 9 - 13 and all attend Beccles Middle School in Beccles Suffolk in the south east of England Graham

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cgi scripts (was Re: Getting there)
by kevin.taylor＠powerconv.alstom.com 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Don't think this got through first time - if it did, then appologies .... > Do I need to create a service (similar to SWAT) to allow a user to run > the html script and access the cgi file? What address do I need to include > in the html script so that the cgi script can be linked to? How much do you know about CGI scripts ? Assuming that you haven't come across these before (forgive me if this assumption is incorrect), but you will need a web server to 'serve them up' (apache is the usual choice for Linux). Basically, the HTML file will do in the documents area of the web server and the CGI script will go in the 'scripts area'. These are 'htdocs' (sometimes 'html') and cgi-bin respectively for apache (often installed in /home/httpd). The client connects to the HTML and CGI scripts via a web browser using something like : http://your.machine/passwd.html Which in turn will probably invoke the script, which could also be called directly at : http://your.machine/cgi-bin/passwd.cgi There may well be a '<form ... >' statement in the passwd.html with an 'action=xyz' bit. This may have to be changed to point to the passwd.cgi script, as seen by users via your web server (for example above, this would be something like 'action=/cgi-bin/passwd.cgi'). Does this help at all ? Drop me a line if you need more details. Kevin Northants Linux Users Group kevin(a)northants.lug.org.uk

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Cyber bullying
by JOHN LOW 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

There is not much you can do in advance I think - privacy of emails may also be an issue. We have an internal mail server and I archive all incoming and outgoing emails so in principle I could track a thread back to source and tie in with terminal user logs. In practice, many students use Hotmail et al, so there is no record of their emails at all. I agree that sanction after the event may be the best answer. John Low St Mary's Hall School At 21:08 15/06/00 +0100, you wrote: >Just wonder if anyone does anything active to prevent cyber bullying and >stalking of students by students? >We have a policy of no sexist, racist or offensive e-mails (students only >have internal e-mail) and we test e-mail content for obvious abuse of >English but no true filtering. >E-mail is a powerful weapon for bullies and I wonder if we should take a >more firm action to prevent it. Any thoughts? >-- >Best wishes, Derek Harding >derek(a)lagham.zetnet.co.uk > > > _______________________________________________ This is a common mailbox with many users. Please include the recipients name in the subject line to ease delivery. Messages addressed to: "Firstname Familyname" <stmaryshall(a)btinternet.com> will be routed automatically. Views expressed in this email are those of the author only. _________________________________________________

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Re: Failed mail: Banned or potentially offensive material
by Elizabeth Bentley 25 Jun '00

25 Jun '00

Is there anything sinister about the rejection of this message? Not sure whether to smile or worry. And thanks to all who replied already. I think we may stick with RM for the moment, but I'm going to try and experiment with Linux ready for the next time we have to make a decision. I'm also trying to push the idea of RM adopting Linux and the underlying server software rather than NT. Surely tha would save them money, as well as us. EB On 20/6/00 administrator(a)hundredhoo.medway.sch.uk wrote: >This mail message contains banned or potentially offensive text. > > >The requested destination was: > administrator(a)hundredhoo.medway.sch.uk > >The text of the message follows: > > >Return-Path: ><suse-linux-uk-schools-return-493-Administrator=hundredhoo.medway.sch.uk(a)suse.com> >Received: from lists.suse.com (host1.dyna.suse.com [202.58.118.3]) > by mx4.th.ifl.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e5GLMwn15571 > for <Administrator(a)hundredhoo.medway.sch.uk>; Fri, 16 Jun >2000 21:22:58 GMT >Apparently-To: <Administrator(a)hundredhoo.medway.sch.uk> >Received: (qmail 20008 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2000 21:22:56 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >X-No-Archive: yes >list-help: <mailto:suse-linux-uk-schools-help@suse.com> >list-unsubscribe: <mailto:suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@suse.com> >list-post: <mailto:suse-linux-uk-schools@suse.com> >Delivered-To: mailing list suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com >Received: (qmail 20001 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2000 21:22:56 -0000 >Delivered-To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: wardrobe(a)popmail.dircon.co.uk (Unverified) >Message-Id: <p04320417b5704a39a5f9(a)[194.112.60.106]> >Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:22:53 +0100 >To: SuSe Linux UK <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> >From: Elizabeth Bentley <elizabeth(a)wardrobe.dircon.co.uk> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Linux and Thin Client Technology >X-UIDL: bbcc213771e1e980c97f94be9913e8ef >Status: O > >We are currently running RM Connect, but are looking into the >possibility of introducing a thin client server set-up, essentially >to enable us to continue to run older machines such as 386s and >Apple LCs, while updating software. > >A major part of the cost will still be licences. So I am very >attracted by the idea of Linux. > >What are the possibilities? Can it be done, and if so which system be best? > >I should greatly appreciate any help you can give me. > >TIA > >-- >Elizabeth Bentley >Head of Learning Resources >Northbrook C of E School >Taunton Road >Lee >London SE12 8PD > >Tel: (+44) 020 8852 3191 >Fax: (+44) 020 8463 0201 > >email: info(a)northbrook.lewisham.sch.uk >------------------------------------------------------- >School Librarians Network is a forum where UK school librarians (and >MROs and support staff) can exchange news, views and ideas and give >each other mutual support. >To subscribe send a blank email to: <sln-subscribe(a)egroups.com> >------------------------------------------------------- -- Elizabeth Bentley Head of Learning Resources Northbrook C of E School Taunton Road Lee London SE12 8PD Tel: (+44) 020 8852 3191 Fax: (+44) 020 8463 0201 email: info(a)northbrook.lewisham.sch.uk ------------------------------------------------------- School Librarians Network is a forum where UK school librarians (and MROs and support staff) can exchange news, views and ideas and give each other mutual support. To subscribe send a blank email to: <sln-subscribe(a)egroups.com> -------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] May be of interest ... (fwd)
by Roger Whittaker 23 Jun '00

23 Jun '00

I don't think this ever made it to the list ... They were probably free `in the sense of free beer'... Now it seems they're not. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:37:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Evans <mpe(a)st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk> To: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] May be of interest ... > I don't think it ever was really free. > > The home page is at > http://www.microimages.com/mix/ Bits of the the FAQ appear to imply that both the Windows and Mac version may have been freeware at one time. Maybe the concept was just too frightening. Paying money appears to be the norm in the Windows world. There are a lot of trivial utilities listed on www.winfiles.com, even ports of GPL or BSD licenced software which people appear to want money for. > An alternative (free) that's worth looking at is vnc: > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ An alternative only in some ways. VNC is conceptually similar to the Netware utility RCONSOLE. > There are of course other X servers for Windows. There used to be some free ones arround. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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OFSET
by Roger Whittaker 22 Jun '00

22 Jun '00

I know, it sounds like something very painful .... announcement at http://lwn.net/daily/ofset.php3 Organization for Free Software in Education and Teaching There's a web site at http://www.ofset.org but nothing really on it yet... -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Getting there
by Dave Williams 19 Jun '00

19 Jun '00

Some time ago I asked for help - how to add large numbers of users and in particular how to import them from other systems eg Acorn L4. Well I've finally got most of the bits in place (thanks to everyone who helped - in particular Richard Naylor). My solution involves a spreadsheet for preparation of the file (I use !Fireworkz) and the creation of a script with one line for each user. eg /usr/sbin/adduser -d /home/96/bp.Amy bp.Amy and then another multiple line script for setting passwords eg ./autopasswd bp.Amy guizmo Where autopasswd is a script which uses the Expect language and processes the passwords without the need for any intervention. I've modified autopasswd to include delays which improves the success rate and also modified it to work with smbpasswd. Autopasswd should be on most people's systems. I use ftp to transfer the script from my RiscPC to the Linux server as a text file and then changed permissions. I'm sure people could come up with more elegant solutions but hey .... it works. PS I'm a big spreadsheet fan for work of this type. If anyone needs any more info then I'll try and help. However, I've got another problem. In the Expect distribution there are two files called passwd.html which accesses passwd.cgi on the server. I do not understand how to make this combination work so that users can change passwords. I've got SWAT working but that seems too complex for kids to use. Do I need to create a service (similar to SWAT) to allow a user to run the html script and access the cgi file? What address do I need to include in the html script so that the cgi script can be linked to? Dave Williams

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Connecting to Internet through Linux (fwd)
by Roger Whittaker 19 Jun '00

19 Jun '00

I've forwarded this to the schools list as it came direct to me ... Roger Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:16:26 +0100 From: john kinchin <ajkinchin(a)physicist.freeserve.co.uk> To: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Cyber bullying Hi a real low level problem here, but this is where some of us are! I have a fully working network with linux as the server, the rest of the machines are win 95 (ugh). Is there a piece of software that will allow any of my win 95 machines to connect to the internet via the linux box. The modem is on the server running linux and is set up for the internet already. any suggestions would be useful john kinchin boston grammar school

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