June 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Linux Training
by Clive Jones 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Hi all, The Tresham Institute of Further & Higher Education in Wellingborough, Northants, is looking for someone to help plan and deliver two short courses on Linux :-) I offered to help, but will be honeymooning on the dates in question. If anyone is interested, or requires further information on the course, then please contact Steve Gibbs, the IT manager: sgibbs(a)tresham.ac.uk Could SuSE UK help with this? Best regards, Clive.

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SQL Server
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

From: Paul Ellison <SysAdm(a)edgecoll.clara.net> To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com ---------- > From: kevin.taylor(a)powerconv.alstom.com > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SQL Server > Date: 13 June 2000 08:55 > > > > > I beleive that SIMS uses the Borland database engine > > Is this the same Borland as 'Inprise' - in which case, I would guess so ... I don't believe that there are really two Borlands, even if they are in two minds about the whole thing ... <groan> > is this the InterBase database ? If so, then there > are already Linux versions of the database server > and clients ! > BDE and InterBase are different animals - BDE is the program component which allows the proprietary Borland (Inprise) Databases to be read. InterBase is a specific database solution. Borland Database Engine accesses a range of database designs (dBase, Paradox, InterBase, and I believe, FoxPro, Clipper etc.) If SIMS includes the BDE, then it *looks* as if we *can* use Linux server & clients. <whoopeee!> > See : > http://www.interbase.com > > The main borland web site looks very pro-linux : > http://www.borland.com > > (Some nice papers there about incorporating > Linux alongside Windows ...) > > Of course, if it is not the same borland, then > none of the above applies :-) Borland (Inprise) _do_ appear to be very pro-Linux. Maybe they see which way the wind blows. :) > > Kevin. > Regards, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edgehill IT Department Email Service. Please check sender's address from body of Message for return address. Find us at: www.edgecoll.clara.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SQL Server
by kevin.taylor＠powerconv.alstom.com 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

> I beleive that SIMS uses the Borland database engine Is this the same Borland as 'Inprise' - in which case, is this the InterBase database ? If so, then there are already Linux versions of the database server and clients ! See : http://www.interbase.com The main borland web site looks very pro-linux : http://www.borland.com (Some nice papers there about incorporating Linux alongside Windows ...) Of course, if it is not the same borland, then none of the above applies :-) Kevin.

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Fw: Linux in schools information repository
by kevin.taylor＠powerconv.alstom.com 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Hi, I just got this in the post this morning. I will have a look and if we still feel that we could do with some pointers for 'UK' specific information (eg information about using SIMS, etc) then we can keep the idea. I still think it would be useful to have some pointers just for the things we are interested in locally. Ta, Kevin. To: ukschools(a)northants.lug.org.uk From: dloss(a)suscom.net Subject: Linux in schools information repository On your webpage for the UK Schools Howto you say, "I have been a member of the SuSE UK Schools mailing list and one of the things that keeps popping up, is some sort of repository for 'working' information, specific to schools." We had the same thought at SEUL/edu, and set up the SEUL/edu Document Project <http://www.seul.org/edu/docs/>. If you look at our Writer Guides <http://www.seul.org/edu/docs/writer/index.html> you'll see how to create documents for the project. We'd like to have documents submitted from all over the world and from all perspectives, so we could have a reasonable repository exactly as you've outlined above. Could you mention this on the SuSE UK Schools mailing list for us? We don't want to co-opt any other efforts, but if no one else is already doing this for you, please consider taking part in our Document Project. -- Doug Loss There's no trick to being a humorist dloss(a)suscom.net when you have the whole government (570) 326-3987 working for you. Will Rogers

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Collecting ideas for a 'UK Schools Howto'
by kevin.taylor＠powerconv.alstom.com 12 Jun '00

12 Jun '00

Hi, I have had several positive replies about a UK schools howto, so I have put up an 'initial thoughts' page on our user groups web site. I am collecting ideas at the moment - we shall see where this leads :-) See: http://www.northants.lug.org.uk/projects/schools/ Kevin. Northants LUG

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SIMS training
by Bill Antonia 11 Jun '00

11 Jun '00

Bill Antonia Beacon Community College Home e-mail bill(a)beaconhillcott.freeserve.co.uk Work e-mail at(a)beacon.e-sussex.sch.uk I've been playing about with SIMS using SuSE 6.4 as a server through Samba. The experiment was to create multiple instances of SIMS but without having to copy the lot for every machine, and I did not want to put a copy on each workstation. This is for training purposes by the way, Assessment Manager on Wednesday. Copy a full version of SIMS onto the Linux server. Create however many instances of SIMS directories you require. I needed 16, one for each workstation. At this point there is nothing in them. In each directory being used for each instance Create links to all the files in the main sims directory. Copy the SYSTEM directory. Copy any other directory which may be required, eg Assessment Manager: MARKS and STAR. Star: STAR. Equipment Register: EQUIP, STAR and possibly ACCOUNTS. etc Configure Samba to share each instance and connect each workstation to a different share. To the person on the workstation, it appears that they have full control and do not get a message saying someone else is using the file...., try again later. In Samba, each share being used in this way needs the option: wide links = yes This allows Samba to follow the links outside of the directory being shared. For 16 machines to use Assessment Manager and the original copy of SIMS, takes up 2.1GB of hard drive space. We have 1800 pupils and as far as I can tell, never archived the pupil data. We still have Star data going back to 93. So it could be less depending upon your school. If each workstation has the same LANID, then to update the system, alter the main copy for that LANID then copy the SYSTEM directory to all your instances, overwriting the old data. I did try to get away with using links to some of the directories as well, but found it difficult in separating the different instances. I'm finding links wonderful things, try to do that on NT4! By the way, the flags for smbmount have changed again! I now have 3 different versions on different machines. In SuSE 6.1 smbmount "\\\\servername\\share" -c 'mount /mountpoint' -U user%password SuSE 6.3 smbmount \\servername\share /mountpoint -U user%password SuSE 6.4 smbmount \\servername\share /mountpoint username=user%password When are they going to stop fiddling with it. Yes add functions and ease of use but keep it reasonably backward compatible. I suppose I'd better get on with my tutor reports, a bit of procrastination going on here. 29 still to go. Regards Bill

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Using Linux on the server - compare to RM Connect
by Phillip Deackes 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

We currently use RM Connect 2.3 where a student logs on with username and password and is then presented with their own desktop and a topic manager where they can choose the topic they wish to use (could be DTP, Science, Word Processing etc.). Icons for the appropriate apps then appear on the desktop. Any documents saved automatically go into that pupil's 'MyWork' folder on the server. Only that pupil (and those with necessary permissions) can acces this folder. To install an application across the network you use a workstation, run an app which does a scan of all relevant areas of the local and network drive and the registry, then launches new app's install routine, then does a similar scan and makes a package of the differences. The package can then be allocated to all or some machines on the network. OK. If I were using Linux and Samba, how would all this work for me? Many thanks indeed. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000

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Hi from South Lee School
by James H. Carter & Cybèle de Jong 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

Hi I coordinate IT at South Lee School in Bury St. Edmunds (Suffolk) Although I consider myself to be reasonably expert with Acorns and stand-alone PCs plus some programming languages I have never been involved in networking, although that hasn't stopped me! We are about to have some major building work done and a new IT room. I am thinking abut a Linux route because I have spent the last few months examining it on a couple of old PCs that had given up the ghost when 'running' windows. The idea of a Linux server with Win desktops appeals because of general staff IT ability levels. Can anyone point me in the right direction (web sites books) for info on setting up this sort of thing (Miles Berry mentioned this sort of network) ? In appreciation James Carter JHC(a)southlee.demon.co.uk JHC(a)stonycobbles.freeserve.co.uk www.southlee.demon.co.uk

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Today's welcome message
by Roger Whittaker 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

There are new people on the list out there ... Why not post a message and say hello and what you're doing ... -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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486 :) or :(
by Paul Taylor 10 Jun '00

10 Jun '00

Hello all: I am knee deep in trying to slavage some 486 machines after laying my head on the line that I can get them a new lease of life with Linux. I have been running Linux on my home machine for nearly 2 years now without a hitch but sods law, when I work on another machine it turns into a lead balloon. I have managed to "install" a version of Linux (I am using a Red Hat one for now as it claims to be fine on 386 +s) on a dx2/66 with 16MB ram and a 540 HD. It works fine until I begin the ext2 formating (after making a 40MB swap file). It begins to format the hda1 partition and then an error appears in the blue screen saying that it has recieved either error 5, 9, or 11 (on suucessive tries) and then says that it is safe to reboot. I've not got beyond this message. Any suggestions? My SuSE is at home (I'm at school) but I believe it needs 32MB minimum? Paul Taylor Westwood St. Thomas School, Salisbury ------------------------------------------------------------ Free email: http://BeMail.org/ Free BeOS: http://free.be.com/

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