The Tresham Institute of Further & Higher Education in Wellingborough,
Northants, is looking for someone to help plan and deliver two short courses on
I offered to help, but will be honeymooning on the dates in question.
If anyone is interested, or requires further information on the course, then
please contact Steve Gibbs, the IT manager:
Could SuSE UK help with this?
From: Paul Ellison <SysAdm(a)edgecoll.clara.net>
> From: kevin.taylor(a)powerconv.alstom.com
> To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com
> Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] SQL Server
> Date: 13 June 2000 08:55
> > I beleive that SIMS uses the Borland database engine
> Is this the same Borland as 'Inprise' - in which case,
I would guess so ... I don't believe that there are really two Borlands,
even if they are in two minds about the whole thing ... <groan>
> is this the InterBase database ? If so, then there
> are already Linux versions of the database server
> and clients !
BDE and InterBase are different animals - BDE is the program component
which allows the proprietary Borland (Inprise) Databases to be read.
InterBase is a specific database solution. Borland Database Engine accesses
a range of database designs (dBase, Paradox, InterBase, and I believe,
FoxPro, Clipper etc.)
If SIMS includes the BDE, then it *looks* as if we *can* use Linux server &
> See :
> The main borland web site looks very pro-linux :
> (Some nice papers there about incorporating
> Linux alongside Windows ...)
> Of course, if it is not the same borland, then
> none of the above applies :-)
Borland (Inprise) _do_ appear to be very pro-Linux. Maybe they see which
way the wind blows. :)
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> I beleive that SIMS uses the Borland database engine
Is this the same Borland as 'Inprise' - in which case,
is this the InterBase database ? If so, then there
are already Linux versions of the database server
and clients !
The main borland web site looks very pro-linux :
(Some nice papers there about incorporating
Linux alongside Windows ...)
Of course, if it is not the same borland, then
none of the above applies :-)
I just got this in the post this morning. I will have
a look and if we still feel that we could do with
some pointers for 'UK' specific information
(eg information about using SIMS, etc) then
we can keep the idea.
I still think it would be useful to have some
pointers just for the things we are interested in
Subject: Linux in schools information repository
On your webpage for the UK Schools Howto you say, "I have been a member
of the SuSE UK Schools mailing list and one of the things that keeps
popping up, is some sort of repository for 'working' information,
specific to schools."
We had the same thought at SEUL/edu, and set up the SEUL/edu Document
Project <http://www.seul.org/edu/docs/>. If you look at our Writer
Guides <http://www.seul.org/edu/docs/writer/index.html> you'll see how
to create documents for the project. We'd like to have documents
submitted from all over the world and from all perspectives, so we
could have a reasonable repository exactly as you've outlined above.
Could you mention this on the SuSE UK Schools mailing list for us? We
don't want to co-opt any other efforts, but if no one else is already
doing this for you, please consider taking part in our Document
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I have had several positive replies about a UK
schools howto, so I have put up an 'initial thoughts'
page on our user groups web site.
I am collecting ideas at the moment - we shall
see where this leads :-)
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I've been playing about with SIMS using SuSE 6.4 as a server through Samba.
The experiment was to create multiple instances of SIMS but without having
to copy the lot for every machine, and I did not want to put a copy on each
workstation. This is for training purposes by the way, Assessment Manager on
Copy a full version of SIMS onto the Linux server.
Create however many instances of SIMS directories you require. I needed 16,
one for each workstation. At this point there is nothing in them.
In each directory being used for each instance
Create links to all the files in the main sims directory.
Copy the SYSTEM directory.
Copy any other directory which may be required, eg
Assessment Manager: MARKS and STAR.
Equipment Register: EQUIP, STAR and possibly ACCOUNTS.
Configure Samba to share each instance and connect each workstation to a
different share. To the person on the workstation, it appears that they have
full control and do not get a message saying someone else is using the
file...., try again later.
In Samba, each share being used in this way needs the option:
wide links = yes
This allows Samba to follow the links outside of the directory being shared.
For 16 machines to use Assessment Manager and the original copy of SIMS,
takes up 2.1GB of hard drive space. We have 1800 pupils and as far as I can
tell, never archived the pupil data. We still have Star data going back to
93. So it could be less depending upon your school.
If each workstation has the same LANID, then to update the system, alter the
main copy for that LANID then copy the SYSTEM directory to all your
instances, overwriting the old data.
I did try to get away with using links to some of the directories as well,
but found it difficult in separating the different instances. I'm finding
links wonderful things, try to do that on NT4!
By the way, the flags for smbmount have changed again! I now have 3
different versions on different machines.
In SuSE 6.1
smbmount "\\\\servername\\share" -c 'mount /mountpoint' -U user%password
smbmount \\servername\share /mountpoint -U user%password
smbmount \\servername\share /mountpoint username=user%password
When are they going to stop fiddling with it. Yes add functions and ease of
use but keep it reasonably backward compatible.
I suppose I'd better get on with my tutor reports, a bit of procrastination
going on here. 29 still to go.
We currently use RM Connect 2.3 where a student logs on with username
and password and is then presented with their own desktop and a topic
manager where they can choose the topic they wish to use (could be DTP,
Science, Word Processing etc.). Icons for the appropriate apps then
appear on the desktop. Any documents saved automatically go into that
pupil's 'MyWork' folder on the server. Only that pupil (and those with
necessary permissions) can acces this folder.
To install an application across the network you use a workstation, run
an app which does a scan of all relevant areas of the local and network
drive and the registry, then launches new app's install routine, then
does a similar scan and makes a package of the differences. The package
can then be allocated to all or some machines on the network.
OK. If I were using Linux and Samba, how would all this work for me?
Many thanks indeed.
Using Storm Linux 2000
I coordinate IT at South Lee School in Bury St. Edmunds (Suffolk)
Although I consider myself to be reasonably expert with Acorns and stand-alone PCs plus some programming languages I have never been involved in networking, although that hasn't stopped me!
We are about to have some major building work done and a new IT room.
I am thinking abut a Linux route because I have spent the last few months examining it on a couple of old PCs that had given up the ghost when 'running' windows.
The idea of a Linux server with Win desktops appeals because of general staff IT ability levels.
Can anyone point me in the right direction (web sites books) for info on setting up this sort of thing (Miles Berry mentioned this sort of network) ?
There are new people on the list out there ...
Why not post a message and say hello and what you're doing ...
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I am knee deep in trying to slavage some 486 machines after laying my head on the line that I can get them a new lease of life with Linux. I have been running Linux on my home machine for nearly 2 years now without a hitch but sods law, when I work on another machine it turns into a lead balloon.
I have managed to "install" a version of Linux (I am using a Red Hat one for now as it claims to be fine on 386 +s) on a dx2/66 with 16MB ram and a 540 HD. It works fine until I begin the ext2 formating (after making a 40MB swap file). It begins to format the hda1 partition and then an error appears in the blue screen saying that it has recieved either error 5, 9, or 11 (on suucessive tries) and then says that it is safe to reboot. I've not got beyond this message. Any suggestions?
My SuSE is at home (I'm at school) but I believe it needs 32MB minimum?
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