June 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Cyber bullying
by adrian.wells 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

I wrote a program to scan the internal e-mail on our Novell server - one could load different word lists allowing scanning for different items e.g. stolen goods, obscenities, bullying etc., It worked very well. "catching" a lot of offenders, but without real effect. The kids objected, making noises about privacy, but they accepted use of the system knowing full well that mail could/would be scanned. They (usually bullies) would try to spoof, but my program would display the true originator, even though the recipient could not see this in a normal e-mail browser. It was interesting that even though we could prove to them that spoofing was a waste of time, they continued to do so, disbelieving the printed evidence in front of them. One wonders what sort of people we are raising in our schools! Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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Cyber bullying
by Derek Harding 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Just wonder if anyone does anything active to prevent cyber bullying and stalking of students by students? We have a policy of no sexist, racist or offensive e-mails (students only have internal e-mail) and we test e-mail content for obvious abuse of English but no true filtering. E-mail is a powerful weapon for bullies and I wonder if we should take a more firm action to prevent it. Any thoughts? -- Best wishes, Derek Harding derek(a)lagham.zetnet.co.uk

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Cyber bullying
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 16 Jun '00

16 Jun '00

Many of our students have e-mail facilities from home - so very few use our e-mail service, and that is batched out once per day (they know that their e-mail is "postcard security", and is likely to be read for precisely that reason. {it isn't, but that is not the point}). Most of the e-bullying happens outside. We do not support internal e-mails. Our biggest problem has been the e-mail services which allow users to masquerade as someone else - e.g. my e-mail address is SysAdm(a)edgecoll.clara.net - they could use SysAdm(a)edgecol.clara.net :( Regards, Paul ---------- > From: Derek Harding <derek(a)lagham.zetnet.co.uk> > To: suse schools <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Cyber bullying > Date: 15 June 2000 21:08 > > Just wonder if anyone does anything active to prevent cyber bullying and > stalking of students by students? > We have a policy of no sexist, racist or offensive e-mails (students only > have internal e-mail) and we test e-mail content for obvious abuse of > English but no true filtering. > E-mail is a powerful weapon for bullies and I wonder if we should take a > more firm action to prevent it. Any thoughts? > -- > Best wishes, Derek Harding > derek(a)lagham.zetnet.co.uk >

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Squid etc.
by Derek Harding 15 Jun '00

15 Jun '00

Hi, I read of the problems running up squid. Actually, I found squid2 runs virtually out of the box for me. I made a couple of minor mods to /etc/squid.conf and started it up. "ps ax | grep squid" will tell you if it's running. For me, it starts in /sbin/init.d/squid and with /etc/rc.config having an added variable "START_SQUID = "yes"" Since we have a very poor ISP filter, we also do some front-line filters to stop the worst of the sites get in, including some in foreign languages. Then our ISP does some filtering and that goes via a commercial programme "websense" which is pretty good. The ISP end is only as good as their config. though, which is pretty damn poor. There is no substitute for RAM for Squid, we use 256k ISDN bandwidth and traffic flows most of the school day. The cache is a child to our ISP cache. We are using Roxen at the moment as the www server because it supports a nifty browser e-mail client, but since our workstations run windoze, we use the Pegasus client (excellent - worth getting to know as an administrator and user) so I'll be removing Roxen and going back to Apache. The Intranet won't know the difference. So, Linux runs our DHCP, e-mail services, internet gateway and proxy, intranet server and a couple of other little odd jobs like monitoring our Netware user space for exe files etc. and filtering the student e-mail for abuse. The students use Pegasus and it is NOT configured to run internet e-mail. They have to forward curricular e-mails via the staff tutor for that subject. All staff have full internet e-mail access. -- Best wishes, Derek Harding derek(a)lagham.zetnet.co.uk

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MS Publisher Replacement
by Mark Evans 15 Jun '00

15 Jun '00

Is anyone aware of a possible replacement for Publisher? Being able to understand existing publisher files is a must. Unfortunatly Publisher and WINE do not agree with each other. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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Pen pals (not really Linux)
by graham.spratt＠tinyonline.co.uk 15 Jun '00

15 Jun '00

I have some children at School who are lookimg for internet pen pals if any of you have any one who would like to be a pen pal can you let me know. Graham

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Today's welcome message (fwd)
by Roger Whittaker 15 Jun '00

15 Jun '00

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:58:56 +0100 From: Mr J W Philpott <jwp(a)charlesburrellhigh.norfolk.sch.uk> To: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Today's welcome message On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:06:52 +0100 (BST) Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of > CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > There are new people on the list out there ... > > Why not post a message and say hello and what you're > doing ... > eh Hi I'm a hard working head of ICT at a 2y school in Thetford Norfolk, (an education action zone no less!). I do ask stupid questions, but I want, or need (?), to learn. I'm presently trying to move from Acorns to PCs, please don't swear at me, and drag our network into the 21st century. So why PCs? You know the answer. At the moment we use 2 NT servers, one running communigate for IMAP mail, I don't understand it but it works, and a PC running Apache as a web server and simple proxy, we did have an acorn running the internet suit, but that died under PC attack, hence the PC/Apache hash up. I want to get Apache/Squid running on Linux, I've got Apache sort of running (it installed itself causing me hours of fun until I discovered this). Squid (using the instructions for quick start) seems to start up the claims not to be running when checked with the -k check (I think) option. That's me and where I am at, can someone please point me to the thread for Squid? Jamie > -- > Roger Whittaker > SuSE Linux Ltd > The Kinetic Centre > Theobald Street > Borehamwood > Herts > WD6 4PJ > ---------------------- > 020 8387 1482 > ---------------------- > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > ---------------------- > J W Philpott Head of ICT Charles Burrell High School, Thetford, Norfolk Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:06:52 +0100 (BST)

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Using Linux on the server - compare to RM Connect
by Matt Johnson 14 Jun '00

14 Jun '00

I could do with some pointers here too. I'm about to embark on taking over a school with Connect, and I'm very interested in running Linux there. But I'd need some good plus points to take to the Governors, considering they've already spent money on the RM solution. -- Matt Johnson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

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SIMS + SQLserver
by Ian P. Mills (Technical Support Manager) 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

SIMS state that they currently use SQL-Anywhere (not familiar to us) which gives five concurrent users at no cost for software licence. Work is well in progress for future versions of many SIMS modules and subsequently ALL modules working with Microsoft SQL server. Apparently there is a cut down version which they include as part of the SIMS licence as it is 'cheap' or free to schools. SIMS have also stated (to us) that they intend NOT to support Linux and that their software will NOT work with ANY other version of SQL as it is written to use many 'features' which are unique to MS-SQL........ ...our problem was that the minimum spec of PC and server that they suggest for future versions was outrageous, particularly for Primary schools... Ian UP. Mills Technical Support Manager Flintshire Education ICT Support Unit

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Dial on demand?? and Sendmail/Webmail?
by Gary Parr 13 Jun '00

13 Jun '00

Hi Im running Squid2 and Apache on my Suse server, and things are running okay. Just a couple of things I now need todo, first is to get the modem attached to it to dial on demand. And also set up email (will only be upto 10 users) All connecting clients will be Win95/98 How easy is sendmail to setup? (Demon Account) or is there a Webmail server that will do the sending a fetching of emails via Pop3 and/or SMTP, and allow users to "login" to access there email? I had this at home when I used Navaho on a Acorn RiscPC, but hav'nt found anything for Linux that is easy to setup. Can anyone suggest anything? Gary ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

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