July 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Emperor's new clothes
by Paul Taylor 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

Hi all: Broadband is coming to my sleepy retreat in Dorset in September and I was wondering if anyone could suggest a modem/provider combination? BT only supply the "voyager" modem which does not (they claim) support Linux. I don't really want to use BT as they are robber baron's but don't know how much leighway there is? I have also looked at Virgin as they sem the lesser of many evils. Paul

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] (Off-Topic: W2k profile discussion) RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed?
by Dug Stokes 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

Sure, I've got a few documents and things I've gathered together - I'll put together a solution and post it to the net. I'll let you know when its done! Dug -----Original Message----- From: JOHN LOW [mailto:j_low@stmaryshall.co.uk] Sent: 16 July 2003 09:16 To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] (Off-Topic: W2k profile discussion) RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed? I (and others?) would really apprecaite it if you posted the final solution to this problem in a single posting, when it's settled. I've been battling on and off with this too but have not produced an entirely satisfactory solution. I don't want individual profiles but do want a single desktop etc for each user, which if I understand you correctly, is what you are aiming at. At the moment I have achieved this (can't remember how!) but the user gets a message saying their profile can't be stored or located. As I have only very few XP clients they can live with that! John Low At 12:20 15/07/2003 +0100, you wrote: >I'm at this very moment battling WindowsXP mandatory >profiles with Samba. It all works and I plan to keep >things simple by just using three versions of >mandatory profiles and no policies... > >Is this Samba specific, or Windows, or am I just plain wrong... But it >seems that My Documents is part of a profile right? And thus, a >mandatory profile doesn't seem to change the contents of My Documents >when you log off! So you can't save work? Can't be right! What >am I doing wrong? > >Ta > >-- >Matt > >_______________________________________________________________________ >_ >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! >Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > > > > > This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not represent those of St Mary's Hall. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] (Off-Topic: W2k profile discussion) RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed?
by Dug Stokes 16 Jul '03

16 Jul '03

*swears* Sorry, my fault. It works now... (Getting confused between renaming folder to .man and the ntuser.dat to .man) C'mon! It is Tuesday! Thanks guys :) Dug -----Original Message----- From: Dug Stokes [mailto:dst@gilberd.essex.sch.uk] Sent: 15 July 2003 09:33 To: 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] (Off-Topic: W2k profile discussion) RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed? Wish it would work! Was trying this yesterday: With a ntuser.man, the user can pull down this file, but cannot seem to CHANGE anything in the registry - even though it is stored locally. Printers do not work, nor does anything else :( With a ntuser.dat, the user can pull down the file, write to the local version, but can obviously write back anything. This isn't so much of a problem as they can't change much, but its still not really such a sensible idea. If it is read-only, the user can pull the file, write to the local, and attempt to push it back up, but it errors (customised down to 1 second!) - probably the best solution so far, but the error is quite annoying. Hopefully that'll give you some more info on to what my problem is! Dug -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnson [mailto:johnsonmlw@yahoo.com] Sent: 15 July 2003 09:28 To: Dug Stokes Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed? --- Dug Stokes <dst(a)gilberd.essex.sch.uk> wrote: > Is there ANY way in Samba (or even Windows... > Bleugh!) - to have a read only > share, yet anyone can write - but any writing is > ignored? E.g. redirect all > writing to /dev/null or something!? > > Its for the profiles on our network (NT Server/2k > Clients) - all students > will soon use the same generic profile (as set in > user manager) but if I > make it read-only, it errors, if its writable, > students can change anything! Dug, I may have the wrong end of the stick, but that sounds like you want a ntuser.man profile rather than a read-only ntuser.dat? If I'm teaching my grandmonther to suck eggs, I'm sorry. If you want more info, ask. -- Matt ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Emperor's new clothes
by Chris Puttick 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

If we're talking ADSL, then you're best looking for a provider that just arranges the line presentation (ADSL splitter), then leaves you to sort out the connection. Most component resellers will be able to sell you an ADSL router, which will then provide an ethernet connection (either RJ45 or wireless) - that way there are no compatibility issues at all. Wireless is the most home-friendly option. We have friends who bring their laptops when they copme to stay, just borrow a wireless card and off they go! -----Original Message----- From: Paul Taylor To: SuSE for Schools Sent: 7/15/03 8:49 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Emperor's new clothes Hi all: Broadband is coming to my sleepy retreat in Dorset in September and I was wondering if anyone could suggest a modem/provider combination? BT only supply the "voyager" modem which does not (they claim) support Linux. I don't really want to use BT as they are robber baron's but don't know how much leighway there is? I have also looked at Virgin as they sem the lesser of many evils. Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] (Off-Topic: W2k profile discussion)
by Garfoot,J 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

>>seem to change the contents of My Documents when you >>log off! So you can't save work? Can't be right! What >>am I doing wrong? >My Documents can be redirected and excluded from the profile using >ntconfig.pol. In this way, applications will look to a networked home >directory automatically, and you don't get masses of files downloaded at logon. If you're using Windows 2000 take a look at : HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders It has various parts of the profile that you can re-direct. For example, here we change the Favorites to point at a networked drive. This means every browser in the school gets the same set of links in the Favourites menu. We can allow staff to add their own links but pupils cannot. As mentioned above it's best to do this in ntconfig.pol. If you don't have a policy editor template that allows this I can send you one. atb Joe Garfoot

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firewire and video editing
by Andrew Nix 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

I have just got a digital video camera and a firewire card. I assume the firewire card is installed as i have seen driver information about it. But i wasnt informed when it was being installed!(is that meant to happen?). My problem is now that i have no idea how to mount the video camera. doe sany have any experiance this type of thing? If so any advice you could give me would be invaluble. Cheers -- Andrew Nix St Pauls Catholic High School Firbank Road Newall Green Wythenshawe Manchester M23 2YS tel: 0161 4375841 ext 168 fax: 0161 4982030

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Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed?
by Dug Stokes 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

Is there ANY way in Samba (or even Windows... Bleugh!) - to have a read only share, yet anyone can write - but any writing is ignored? E.g. redirect all writing to /dev/null or something!? Its for the profiles on our network (NT Server/2k Clients) - all students will soon use the same generic profile (as set in user manager) but if I make it read-only, it errors, if its writable, students can change anything! Dug Stokes IS Technician/Senior Webmaster Gilberd IS Department The Gilberd School - A Mathematics and Computing College w: www.gilberd.com e: dug(a)gilberd.com

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(Off-Topic: W2k profile discussion) RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed?
by Dug Stokes 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

Wish it would work! Was trying this yesterday: With a ntuser.man, the user can pull down this file, but cannot seem to CHANGE anything in the registry - even though it is stored locally. Printers do not work, nor does anything else :( With a ntuser.dat, the user can pull down the file, write to the local version, but can obviously write back anything. This isn't so much of a problem as they can't change much, but its still not really such a sensible idea. If it is read-only, the user can pull the file, write to the local, and attempt to push it back up, but it errors (customised down to 1 second!) - probably the best solution so far, but the error is quite annoying. Hopefully that'll give you some more info on to what my problem is! Dug -----Original Message----- From: Matt Johnson [mailto:johnsonmlw@yahoo.com] Sent: 15 July 2003 09:28 To: Dug Stokes Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed? --- Dug Stokes <dst(a)gilberd.essex.sch.uk> wrote: > Is there ANY way in Samba (or even Windows... > Bleugh!) - to have a read only > share, yet anyone can write - but any writing is > ignored? E.g. redirect all > writing to /dev/null or something!? > > Its for the profiles on our network (NT Server/2k > Clients) - all students > will soon use the same generic profile (as set in > user manager) but if I > make it read-only, it errors, if its writable, > students can change anything! Dug, I may have the wrong end of the stick, but that sounds like you want a ntuser.man profile rather than a read-only ntuser.dat? If I'm teaching my grandmonther to suck eggs, I'm sorry. If you want more info, ask. -- Matt ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed ?
by Chris Puttick 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

The profile needs to be a .man, then Windows shouldn't attempt to write to it anyway. -----Original Message----- From: Dug Stokes To: 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Sent: 7/15/03 9:19 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Samba: Read-Only, but writing allowed? Is there ANY way in Samba (or even Windows... Bleugh!) - to have a read only share, yet anyone can write - but any writing is ignored? E.g. redirect all writing to /dev/null or something!? Its for the profiles on our network (NT Server/2k Clients) - all students will soon use the same generic profile (as set in user manager) but if I make it read-only, it errors, if its writable, students can change anything! Dug Stokes IS Technician/Senior Webmaster Gilberd IS Department The Gilberd School - A Mathematics and Computing College w: www.gilberd.com e: dug(a)gilberd.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Microsoft and Exam Boards and the OFT
by Chris Puttick 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

For reference, our experience of installing Moodle on SuSE 8.2 Pro was one of astonished ease, with the only problem being the difference between how newer versions of PHP communicate with Postgre compared with the documented method. 10 minutes from end to end on a "live" server. -----Original Message----- From: MJ Ray To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 7/15/03 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Microsoft and Exam Boards and the OFT Paul Taylor <pault(a)blandfordschool.org.uk> wrote: > BTW I managed to get Moodle to work on SuSE 8.2 by uninstalling apache and php > (the SuSE compiled rpms) and installing versions from tarballs with the > appropriate options. Thanks for mentioning it here so that the archives should be able to help future searchers. > I could not get php working with apache (in the way > needed for Moodle) as it was shipped with 8.2. Really? Time for a bug report to them? > This in itself can be complicated but this time was quite easy. > However, I can't see many people pouring through 800 page tomes to > find the answers. No, indeed, and they shouldn't need to. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ jabber://slef@jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ Thought: Edwin A Abbott wrote about trouble with Windows in 1884 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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