May 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving
by Dug Stokes 06 May '03

06 May '03

Yep, I changed the setting, (yes, it was the right one!), been tailing the log which works with IdentD (always has!) - and -k reconfigured, and also stopped and started it. Nothing. :( Thanks again, Dug -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] Sent: 06 May 2003 14:30 To: Dug Stokes Cc: 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 01:49:10PM +0100, Dug Stokes wrote: > I've turned it on, but it doesn't appear in our logging - do you have > any ideas Mark? Is it logging at all? If not then most likely /var/log/squid does not exist or is not writable to the squid process. If it's logging something then are you sure you restarted squid or did "squid -k reconfigure" it does not automatically re-read its config file (unlike some other programs). -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving
by Dug Stokes 06 May '03

06 May '03

I've turned it on, but it doesn't appear in our logging - do you have any ideas Mark? Thanks again, Dug -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] Sent: 06 May 2003 13:20 To: Thomas Adam Cc: Dug Stokes; 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 12:26:24PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Dug Stokes <dst(a)gilberd.essex.sch.uk> wrote: > > > Thanks for everyone's help on the Perl script - it works fine. Just > > You're welcome, Dug :) > > > another > > quick one - is there any way for Squid to resolve DNS addresses for > > machines that are using it as a proxy - the clients are Win2K, but > > we have two DNS > > servers running - Just would be nice to have a name in the logs - its > > has > > the username using IdentD. > > Umm, IIRC, there are settings in /etc/squid.conf that allow you to > turn on resolution of DNS names. I *thought* that this was done > automatically? In most distributions the default is off. The relevent option would be "log_fqdn on" for identd lookups the option is "ident_lookup_access allow all" -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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ADSL speeds into school
by Alan Davies 06 May '03

06 May '03

I noticed that Demon internet now offer better contention ratios than most (all?) other broadband providers. We are currently with pavilion (part of the easynet group) and although speeds were great a couple of years ago we have noticed a steady decline in service - which is barely better than ISDN rates around Lunch times. I assume this is down to contention - although we also use their filtered proxy service which has been a constriction in the past and I suspect that they use a transparent proxy on the non filtered service (is there a way to test for this?) Not only might it be possible to get better bandwidth but Demon appears to be cheaper too (certainly less than we are paying Easynet for a 2MB service). Of course with contention ratios of 5:1 it could still be sluggish if the other 4 users are also heavy on usage (as would be many schools). They offer a 1:1 service - but at 600ukp per month it would be not be much more to go for a leased line and get the benefit of symmetric speeds. Anyone any comments on Internet access speeds (I know its not Linux specific - although we do use squid as our local proxy on a linux box). -- Alan Davies Head of Computing Birkenhead School

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Perl Stuff :S
by Dug Stokes 06 May '03

06 May '03

Hi! Has anyone got five minutes to spare to be able to tell me how to get a list of files in the current directory with <option></option> around each file? So far I've written; print "<select name=file><option>"; print `ls\n`; print "</option></select>"; But naturally, I need the <option> bit around each filename! Please help! Dug Stokes

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Local Squid DNS Resolving
by Dug Stokes 06 May '03

06 May '03

Thanks for everyone's help on the Perl script - it works fine. Just another quick one - is there any way for Squid to resolve DNS addresses for machines that are using it as a proxy - the clients are Win2K, but we have two DNS servers running - Just would be nice to have a name in the logs - its has the username using IdentD. Thanks again! Dug

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school network !!
by Edmond Sng 06 May '03

06 May '03

Hi, Has anyone tried using linux on their school network as PDC and package allocation, desktop control etc? I am looking for some other alternatives. Edmond

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Perl Stuff :S
by Robb Bloomfield 06 May '03

06 May '03

Don't know Perl well enough to tell you exactly, but load the results of your ls query into an array, and then do a for...each (smalltalk :p) for each entry. HTH some

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] ADSL speeds into school
by Robb Bloomfield 06 May '03

06 May '03

>> We are currently paying ?9k PA for a 2Mbit 1:1 through our LEA (!) Ours is 10k pa with a 4:1 contention. My MRTG stats show peaks at around the 4-500k range....

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Free Open Source application adoption
by Chris Puttick 05 May '03

05 May '03

Seconded - particularly about experiences with WINE. We are funding a project starting in the summer, examining applications currently used in schools and ways to get them to run under Linux. It is assumed this will primarily be achieved through the use of WINE, hence any positive experiences others have already had will prevent the project wasting resources duplicating work. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Duncan To: SuSE mailing list for UK schools Sent: 5/5/03 10:31 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Free Open Source application adoption IMHO the primary factor that influences people when choosing an operating system is the availablity of applications for a particular platform. If computer users rely on a Windows only application, then there is little chance of a switch to Linux etc. until a viable alternative that runs on the proposed new operating system is available (I'm assuming that the app can't run using Wine or some other emulation). Are any of you actively trying to introduce apps like OpenOffice.org into your schools ? Are you using Wine ? If you are doing these things, I'd be interested to hear about your experiences. Regards Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Free Open Source application adoption
by Chris Duncan 05 May '03

05 May '03

IMHO the primary factor that influences people when choosing an operating system is the availablity of applications for a particular platform. If computer users rely on a Windows only application, then there is little chance of a switch to Linux etc. until a viable alternative that runs on the proposed new operating system is available (I'm assuming that the app can't run using Wine or some other emulation). Are any of you actively trying to introduce apps like OpenOffice.org into your schools ? Are you using Wine ? If you are doing these things, I'd be interested to hear about your experiences. Regards Chris

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