May 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

3.1 anomolie?
by Paul Taylor 11 May '03

11 May '03

Since upgrading 8.1 to KDE 3.1 i have noticed that if I open the file manager (su) in anything but a root desktop, it opens and displays for a second then disappears. I thought this was SuSE related but on another machine using RH 9 and 3.1 it does the same thing. Has anyone else seen this? Anyone know a fix? Paul

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Suse on the school network !!
by Chris Puttick 11 May '03

11 May '03

Try webmin: http://www.webmin.com/ - that should take care of a lot of your requirements. You might also want to consider thin client Linux (particularly a rather nice little solution to be called Nymph (?)), even if you retain Windows for must-have software that won't function in any other way. Thin client makes package roll-out painless (just the servers!), obviates the need for any serious desktop protection solution (only affects that user, rather than that computer, and the user profile can be rebuilt in minutes) and makes home/school access a reality. RM and Viglen are a pain in the proverbial... (just guessing!) Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: Edmond Sng To: Suse-Linux-Uk-Schools Sent: 5/11/03 12:30 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Suse on the school network !! Hi, Are there any software vendor in the industry that sells linux based workstation administration software? I am aware that we can have a linux PDC and use SAMBA to connect windows workstations. I am looking for an administration software that can manage users' desktop, remotely install the software packages, creating and deleting users, managing print queues, set up topics etc. At the moment the school is still using NT4.0 and the administration software packages is supplied by a PLC company that specialise in School network. It would be great to get out of NT4.0 and get into Linux. Look forward to hearing from you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Suse on the school network !!
by Edmond Sng 11 May '03

11 May '03

Hi, Are there any software vendor in the industry that sells linux based workstation administration software? I am aware that we can have a linux PDC and use SAMBA to connect windows workstations. I am looking for an administration software that can manage users' desktop, remotely install the software packages, creating and deleting users, managing print queues, set up topics etc. At the moment the school is still using NT4.0 and the administration software packages is supplied by a PLC company that specialise in School network. It would be great to get out of NT4.0 and get into Linux. Look forward to hearing from you.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OFT and MSSA
by Chris Puttick 10 May '03

10 May '03

What about the more extreme case of the council using funds to extend an MS Enterprise agreement to schools? Is this for the OFT to examine or the NAO? I have reason to believe the coucil in question are directly negotiating with MS rather than going to tender for equivalent solutions. -----Original Message----- From: ian To: SuSE mailing list for UK schools Sent: 5/5/03 11:06 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OFT and MSSA In December I filed a complaint to the OFT with regard to MSSA being anti-competitive because it requires the payment of licences to MS for machines that do not run any of their software. I think most people would agree that an effect of this, intentional or not, is to block competition by ensuring revenue for MS from rival installations. There was an article in the Register and the Times on this and I am talking to Computer Weekly about it tomorrow. The OFT have now decided there are reasonable grounds for a full investigation so collecting evidence is important. This is an important issue for Suse and in fact any Linux distribution that wants to get onto the desktop in schools. If MS succeed in a strategy of getting most schools onto the MSSA it will virtually kill any chance of getting Linux at the desktop in schools. The OFT, has specific bureaucratic requirements in investigating these issues and it could take up to 2 years to come to a judgement and even then it might not be the one we would like. So this is only a beginning but an important one if Linux is to thrive in schools. If you have any evidence that MSSA is blocking Linux adoption in your school or any other that you know, particularly if you work for a commercial Linux company (Roger?) the principal case officer dealing with this is Edward.Anderson(a)oft.gsi.gov.uk. If you need more information drop me a line. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-5-664844,00.html (Times link) Thanks, -- ian <ian.lynch2(a)ntlworld.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Technician job
by Christopher Dawkins 08 May '03

08 May '03

Would you excuse a brief advert? Our Aussie gap-year technician has to return home suddenly for medical reasons. We have a potentially full-time post for a replacement, preferably resident. Write to me - don't clog the list .... -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-822698, mobile 07816 821659 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Schoolforge-UK cont'd
by Chris Puttick 07 May '03

07 May '03

Sounds good to me, although starting a sentence with precipitated? ;-) -----Original Message----- From: James Spedding To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 5/7/03 11:56 AM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Schoolforge-UK cont'd here's the bit I was going to put on the CD. does it say enough or too much? Precipitated by the coming together of delegates at the conference a new organisation has been formed "to promote and support the use of freely-licensed resources and non-proprietary software in UK Schools" and "to make open educational resources more effective, efficient, and ubiquitous by enhancing communication, sharing resources, and increasing the transparency of development". Further information and official announcements will follow from Schoolforge-UK. If you are interested in finding out more please email interest(a)schoolforge.org.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving
by Mark Evans 07 May '03

07 May '03

On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 08:52:28AM +0100, Dug Stokes wrote: > Ok, but we use NT/2000 Servers for DNS... :S IIRC these are a hacked about version of bind4, personally I wouldn't touch that with a barge pole. > Can you summerise what this does?! It's a standard configuration for bind 8 with forward and reverse zone files. There are some good docs in the Linux Network Administrators Guide http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag2/x-087-2-resolv.html Also there is no point in attempting to query the external nameservers for anything on your LAN. They don't know anything about it and will return "not founds". > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] > Sent: 06 May 2003 15:50 > To: Dug Stokes > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving > > > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 03:15:31PM +0100, Dug Stokes wrote: > > They're internal name servers; I've setup the following in the resolv; > > > > nameserver 10.35.145.130 > > nameserver 10.35.145.12 > > nameserver 194.177.160.2 > > nameserver 194.177.170.2 > > > > The top two are interal addresses. > > At absolute best this will work some of the time > > On machines 10.35.145.130 and 10.35.145.12 > put the line > forwarders { 194.177.160.2; 194.177.170.2; }; > into /etc/named.conf > > Assuming that 10.35.145.130 is the master the > rest of its /etc/named.conf should look something > like > > zone "localhost" IN { > type master; > file "localhost.zone"; > check-names fail; > allow-update { none; }; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" IN { > type master; > file "127.0.0.zone"; > check-names fail; > allow-update { none; }; > }; > zone "gilberd.essex.sch.uk" IN { > type master; > file "gilberd.essex.sch.uk.zone"; > check-names fail; > allow-update { none; }; > }; > zone "145.35.10.in-addr.arpa" IN { > type master; > file "10.35.145.zone"; > check-names fail; > allow-update { none; }; > }; > > > Assuming that 10.35.145.12 is a slave then > the rest of its /etc/named.conf should look something > like > > zone "localhost" IN { > type master; > file "localhost.zone"; > check-names fail; > allow-update { none; }; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" IN { > type master; > file "127.0.0.zone"; > check-names fail; > allow-update { none; }; > }; > zone "gilberd.essex.sch.uk" IN { > type slave; > file "slave/db.gilberd.essex.sch.uk"; > masters { 10.35.145.130; }; > }; > zone "145.35.10.in-addr.arpa" IN { > type slave; > file "slave/db.10.35.145"; > masters { 10.35.145.130; }; > }; > > Then remove all references to 194.177.160.2 > and 194.177.160.2 in /etc/resolv.conf. > > To check that it is working try > "host 127.0.0.1 10.35.145.130" > -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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Schoolforge
by James Spedding 06 May '03

06 May '03

After a long wait the conference CDROM is ready to go but...... I want to include something about Schoolforge UK's creation but I don't know what I could say before the official announcement. If it's best I keep my mouth shut then let me know otherwise I'm open to offers. Also, I agree the font for the Schoolforge Logo is terrible - any suggestions for a replacement? Serif? sans-serif? simple arial? something else? Also Chris did you get any joy from the schoolforge.org people for their original artwork? James

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving
by Dug Stokes 06 May '03

06 May '03

Ahh, yeah, host not found, even though there are servers in resolv. D -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] Sent: 06 May 2003 14:47 To: Dug Stokes Cc: 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Local Squid DNS Resolving On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:32:07PM +0100, Dug Stokes wrote: > Yep, I changed the setting, (yes, it was the right one!), been tailing > the log which works with IdentD (always has!) - and -k reconfigured, > and also stopped and started it. Nothing. :( What have you got in /etc/resolv.conf? Does "host <any IP on your local network>" give you? If you get "Host 15.146.144.195.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)" or similar then you have no reverse DNS. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Problem mounting floppy
by s-clarob＠st-aidans.cumbria.sch.uk 06 May '03

06 May '03

open a terminal session make sure /media/floppy does actually exists as a directory then making sure your not in the /media/floppy directroy mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy the vfat file system should work for windows formatted floppys and older dos formatted floppys. Rob. At 14:49 06/05/2003 +0100, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: <s-clarob(a)st-aidans.cumbria.sch.uk> >To: <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> >Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 2:43 PM >Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Problem mounting floppy > > > > Have you tried mounting the floppy specifying the mount point and fs type? > > I.E. not relying on the fstab > > > > Robin > >How would I do that? I have a shortcut on the desktop that includes this >info, is this what you are suggesting? > >Adrian

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