April 2003 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

FW: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Latest on my LEA's plans for admin sy stems.
by Kyle Williamson 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

== Kyle Williamson Solent Educational Solent House, Roman Road, Dibden Purlieu, Southampton, Hampshire, SO45 4RQ Tel: (023) 80 843189 Fax: (023) 80 848715 "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the US of arrogance, and Germany doesn't want to go to war." -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Williamson [mailto:kyle@solented.co.uk] Sent: 28 April 2003 15:01 To: 'Mark Evans' Cc: 'suse-uk-linux-schools(a)suse.com' Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Latest on my LEA's plans for admin sy stems. Or in Capita Terms, the "an internal combustion engine", "pnumatic tyres", "hydrolically actuated brakes" wont be released until the next version is being pushed out the door. Kyle == Kyle Williamson Solent Educational Solent House, Roman Road, Dibden Purlieu, Southampton, Hampshire, SO45 4RQ Tel: (023) 80 843189 Fax: (023) 80 848715 "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the US of arrogance, and Germany doesn't want to go to war." -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] Sent: 28 April 2003 15:10 To: Chris Puttick Cc: 'suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com ' Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Latest on my LEA's plans for admin sy stems. On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 02:52:28PM +0100, Chris Puttick wrote: > Role based security is on the DB side - bit like groups in network logons. > Makes for easier admin as you can just give a user a role or roles and that > gives them the appropriate accesses. > > Not clever... Postgre can do it... Sounds like this is heading for the level of marketing for a car which offers features along the line of "an internal combustion engine", "pnumatic tyres", "hydrolically actuated brakes", etc... -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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fstab et al
by Paul Taylor 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

Hi all: I have been working on (playing with) my linux box and am in something of a small pickle. It is a test box I use for my AVCE students so I tend to install and uninstall Linux quite a lot so they can see a real OS being worked with. It was working basically with 2 partitions on 1 drive (SuSE and a.n.other). I have now installed one Linux as hda1 and hda2 and then installed SuSE. I had installed some other Linux before but reformatted the SuSE partition. However, SuSE has assigned its partitions as hde3 (swap) and hde6. The other Linux boots as hda1 but I am using the SuSE partition to boot. I install the other Linux partition with SuSE but can only assign it to boot hde1. As the other partition boots up it gets to the root section and has a kernel panic as it can't find hde1. If I change the settings in fstab in the SuSE partiton to hda3 and 6 and the others to hda1 and 2, will this reset all of it or is ther another configuration file? I believe, though I don't know, that it also looks at the install logs of SuSE in which case it will not boot at all as it has hda in the fstab and hde somehwere else. Hope this makes sense? Paul

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Latest on my LEA's plans for admin systems.
by Mark Evans 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

In their latest newslatter they say from more things about SIMS.net, apparently copied straight from Capita's marketing department. Anyway havn't Microsoft just dropped using *.net > Capita offer major new features with SIMS.net, including > the promise that it - Slightly odd wording... > Integrates seamlesly and can be fully customised to fit > the unique needs of individual schools. So it will work with any computer system yet built? Also the latter is more of a "design requirment" than anything else. > Is a cost-effective, feature-rich school information > management solution built on Microsoft net technology. I can think of at least two people (both called Chris) who might dispute the "cost-effective" bit. > Users will benefit from features such as personalised > desktop, instant alerts, unified login, access to web > resources, intuitive navigation and Microsoft Office > integration. So it either generates documents Office can understand and/or supplies data for mail merging. Also it can operate as a web browser... For the rest I think I need a "Marketing to English" phrasebook. > Builds on your current investment in SIMS by working > on current school data. Again more of a requirment. > Allows data to be imported from other management > information systems. ditto (this is simply a more general version of the previous claim.) > Offers Microsoft Office integration - easy letter > and document generation from user-accessible SIMS > data -- and a brand new document management facility. Didn't they already say this. Anyway does this imply that every machine also has to have MS Office on it? > Is designed to enable schools to comply with the > national information management strategy. Yet another thing which more of a requirment. > Offers built-in, secure, reporting and viewing, > with a comprehensive suite of off-the-shelf' reports > and more advanced user definable reporting. If the reporting and viewing wasn't built in then you'd if effect have a write-only database. > Supports personalised user accounts and role-based > security, curriculum management, school calender > management and attendance code management. What is "role-based security". What about security tied to workstations and users? Right near the end we have the only apparent innovation, the calender... -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763

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more case studies
by James Spedding 25 Apr '03

25 Apr '03

I was looking at the old OSiE website (http://osie.sourceforge.net/dynamic/osieweb/organisations.php?type=SCH) at the list of schools using Linux and I was wondering if anyone could fill in the history between then and now. I'm trying to discover whether they would consider being involved in the growing list of case-studies (as they were for OSiE). If anyone could suggest contact names (or whether the schools are still using Linux) I'd appreciate it. Westwood St Thomas, Salisbury St Ives School, Haslemere Meadows Community School, Chesterfield Framlingham Earl High School Thanks James

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] next conference.....
by Chris Puttick 25 Apr '03

25 Apr '03

Manchester half-term is 27/10-31/10, so either of the first two would be fine for the schools here (us CLCs work right through, so all 3 are the same to us!). Aston uni might be a good bet. I sure there are FSFE people from there too. -----Original Message----- From: James Spedding To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 4/25/03 1:57 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] next conference..... Things are beginning to move again regarding the next conference. The suggestion for the location was Birmingham, so I was looking of those in the know to suggest a possible venue (capacity 200 ish plus) which is fairly reasonable priced. Also the dates of Friday the 10th, 17th or 24th October are in the frame. I'm not sure when half terms are and it would be good to have it on the Friday of the penultimate week of autumn half term. Any other suggestions gratefully received. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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next conference.....
by James Spedding 25 Apr '03

25 Apr '03

Things are beginning to move again regarding the next conference. The suggestion for the location was Birmingham, so I was looking of those in the know to suggest a possible venue (capacity 200 ish plus) which is fairly reasonable priced. Also the dates of Friday the 10th, 17th or 24th October are in the frame. I'm not sure when half terms are and it would be good to have it on the Friday of the penultimate week of autumn half term. Any other suggestions gratefully received.

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Mozilla Firebird
by Chris Puttick 25 Apr '03

25 Apr '03

Just downloaded latest build of Phoenix, now known as Mozilla Firebird. Not officially released yet, but there's only 3 bugs left in the listings, so who cares ;-) It's very, very fast (both starting up and loading pages) and extremely pretty. However... does anyone know how I can lock it down and use it in an NT (all versions!) network, with mandatory profiles? This is part of the Linux migration plan on one of the sites (OOo/StarOffice and Mozilla on Windows as transition phase), so it's (a) important and (b) not as off-topic as it would first appear! Cheers Chris

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London help needed
by Chris Puttick 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

For those not on the SchoolForge Wiki: Desperately need London school (preferably SW) with working (relative!) SIMS SQL setup prepared to do demo - email me with offers! Chris

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] conference press release
by Chris Puttick 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

Two stones makes for more interesting ripples... -----Original Message----- From: James Spedding To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 4/23/03 4:47 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] conference press release <snip> The other thing is should their be a joint release (conference PR and SchoolForgeUK with the post-conference CD too) or should the conference and SchoolForge UK announcement be separate (1 big stone into the pond or 2 smaller ones?) Let me know what you think --

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conference press release
by James Spedding 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

I've posted a second draft of an external press release for those interested at the wiki http://www.schoolforge.org.uk/wiki/wiki.pl?Open_Source_In_Education_Confere… please add more, suggest changes etc. as appropriate. I'm trying to show the new moves forward with schoolforge UK at the bottom of the piece and I'm grateful of any feedback. The other thing is should their be a joint release (conference PR and SchoolForgeUK with the post-conference CD too) or should the conference and SchoolForge UK announcement be separate (1 big stone into the pond or 2 smaller ones?) Let me know what you think

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