November 2002 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

databases
by Paul Taylor 13 Nov '02

13 Nov '02

HI all: 4d were offering their database (6.5) for free to schools which is windoze but according to wine it works on their layer and could be used with cross-over? Paul <snip> You can learn more about 4D and Wine at: http://www.winehq.com/Apps/details.cgi?id=1313

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL
by Chris Puttick 13 Nov '02

13 Nov '02

It's a real one... In StarOffice the Adabas engine is preconfigured, so going to tools, datasources, then right-clicking on the dialogue box gets you the option to add new data source. Select Adabas as the type (presumably can be made default, not looked yet), click New Database, give it a name, set the password, enter the password (slightly annoying), click OK, wait... Now select the Tables tab, or the queries tab. What else is needed? Not my area, so that's as far as I get. -----Original Message----- From: Phil Driscoll To: Chris Puttick; 'Suse-Linux-Uk-Schools ' Sent: 11/12/02 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL On Tuesday 12 November 2002 9:46 am, Chris Puttick wrote: > Had the CD for ages... Now on every computer in the site. Chris Any opinions you would care to voice on how good the database element is? Cheers -- Phil Driscoll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL
by Chris Puttick 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Had the CD for ages... Now on every computer in the site. Having said that, we're persuading primaries and other secondaries down the OOo root, just because it's as easy as "download it from here". Having said that, any answers beyond http://linuxworld.com.au/article.php3?aid=341&tid=1 for using the package for teaching DBs would be extremely useful. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: Grainge, Derek To: Bruce Miller; Suse-Linux-Uk-Schools Sent: 11/11/02 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL If you look on Sun's website they give a registation web page after some searching, and provide links to a reseller who will supply the CD pack. Are you talking about that registration, or the registration of interest which happened a long time ago and seems to have been a complete waste of time? Has anyone actually managed to get hold of the CDs? -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Miller [mailto:mail@brucemiller.co.uk] Sent: 11 November 2002 21:52 To: Suse-Linux-Uk-Schools Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL I am still waiting for Sun to clarify the deal on Student licences before buying into Star Office Six. This is Open Office but with the database, I hear, although I have yet to see it. We also registered for the £25 school site licence scheme and are still awaiting reply for this too. Educational wheels turn very slowly. I expect other people are in the same boat. But maybe not? Bruce. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com -- ************************************************************************ ******** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ************************************************************************ ******** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL
by Grainge, Derek 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

If you look on Sun's website they give a registation web page after some searching, and provide links to a reseller who will supply the CD pack. Are you talking about that registration, or the registration of interest which happened a long time ago and seems to have been a complete waste of time? Has anyone actually managed to get hold of the CDs? -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Miller [mailto:mail@brucemiller.co.uk] Sent: 11 November 2002 21:52 To: Suse-Linux-Uk-Schools Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL I am still waiting for Sun to clarify the deal on Student licences before buying into Star Office Six. This is Open Office but with the database, I hear, although I have yet to see it. We also registered for the £25 school site licence scheme and are still awaiting reply for this too. Educational wheels turn very slowly. I expect other people are in the same boat. But maybe not? Bruce. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Laptops: lease or outright purchase
by Chris Puttick 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

Not the entire world, Chris, not the entire world... Although I think they can be an excellent tool for teachers and other staff, in the hands of children they become a weapon of terror! Leasing v. purchase - leasing can be a cost-effective way of buying IT and other equipment, but bear in mind in the case of computers you're almost certainly going to have to pay the remainder as the equipment is unlikely to be serviceable at the end of the term, so negotiate your terms most carefully. If you decide leasing is an option you want to explore, contact me off list as I know of a very flexible company :-) Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Dawkins To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 11/11/02 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Laptops: lease or outright purchase >> Is there a strong current of opinion about whether it is more >> effective to lease or purchase laptops. Yes, certainly there is. There may, though, be other strong currents too. > In the short term it's a good idea to lease True. But only in the very short term, In the long term, it's much better to buy. Or, if you find laptops expensive and unreliable, not to buy. Since these two words sum laptops up so very well, it passeth all understanding why schools waste so much money on them. But that last bit is only a one-person opinion, currently differing from the entire rest-of-the-world. -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-822698, mobile 07816 821659 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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OpenOffice.org + MySQL
by Phil Driscoll 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

We've rolled out Open Office on all our dektop machines (Win NT, Win2K and LTSP). Everyone is happy except that they are starting to scream for database functionality - by which they actually machine something like MS Access. I've played with an ODBC connection to a locally hosted MySQL setup on a Windows box and the 'Form Autopilot' looks like it will do what we need. We have a Linux box suitably equipped to host MySQL databases for all the kids. I need to tackle the Windows clients first, and need to set things up so that when a kid logs in and runs Open Office they are automatically presented with their own database as a datasource. Has anyone done this yet? If so, advice would be most welcome. Cheers -- Phil Driscoll

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Educational pricing
by Chris Puttick 12 Nov '02

12 Nov '02

£39 for the Professional version direct from SuSE UK - Roger can correct me if I'm wrong... -----Original Message----- From: D Garside To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 11/8/02 9:18 PM Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Educational pricing Hi, I've been inefficient and lost the details about how to get 8.1 at educational prices. Can somebody help please. Many thanks. Darren Garside Freshford Primary School Bath

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[suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenOffice.org + MySQL
by Bruce Miller 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

I am still waiting for Sun to clarify the deal on Student licences before buying into Star Office Six. This is Open Office but with the database, I hear, although I have yet to see it. We also registered for the £25 school site licence scheme and are still awaiting reply for this too. Educational wheels turn very slowly. I expect other people are in the same boat. But maybe not? Bruce.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Laptops: lease or outright purchase
by Grainge, Derek 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

In the short term it's a good idea to lease: you get a lot of machines in quickly and spread the cost. However your budget cost goes up approx. 50% if leased over three years. And your costs probably went up 40% when you mentioned laptop rather than desktop. I recommend you talk to your bank manager if you go that route: you can get better rates, and you end up owning the machine (if you feel that a 3-4 year old machine is worth owning); but that depends on what form of funding is available to you. In the long term leasing is a problem: it commits your capital long-term and limits your ability to be flexible. -----Original Message----- From: D Garside [mailto:darren.garside1@virgin.net] Sent: 11 November 2002 17:46 To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Laptops: lease or outright purchase IS there a stong current of opinion about whether it is more effective to lease or purchase laptops. Apologies if this is too off topic for this list. Darren Garside Freshford Primary School Bath -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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Laptops: lease or outright purchase
by D Garside 11 Nov '02

11 Nov '02

IS there a stong current of opinion about whether it is more effective to lease or purchase laptops. Apologies if this is too off topic for this list. Darren Garside Freshford Primary School Bath

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