November 2001 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] config file
by [VL]Sparkz 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

yes please anything (scripts or advice ) to make life easier for an under paid school techy is welcomed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Adam" <thomas_adam16(a)yahoo.com> To: "postmaster" <sparkz(a)breathemail.net> Cc: <admin2(a)users.purbeck.dorset.sch.uk> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] config file > --- postmaster <sparkz(a)breathemail.net> wrote: > > sorry m8 maybe i missed it ,or just a bit slow. > > hehe. > > where do i get the asp script from. > > You'll have to ask Dave Turnbull for that. My ASP > scripting capabilities are non-existant. I always > handled the filtering/processing side of the Linux > proxying. > > By the way, are you interested in a script that will > process the "/etc/access.log"??? > > Or even a remote way of adding banned URLS to your > filtering files via e-mail???? I think it still > works....?!? > > --Thomas Adam > > ===== > Thomas Adam > > "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- www.linuxgazette.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com >

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config file
by [VL]Sparkz 21 Nov '01

21 Nov '01

hi guys heres an easy one for you. at the moment my config file for squidguard is like so dbhome /usr/local/squidGuard/db logdir /usr/local/squidGuard/log dest itsok { urllist itsok/urls domainlist itsok/domains expressionlist itsok/expressions } dest porn { domainlist porn/domains urllist porn/urls } dest mylist { domainlist mylist/domains urllist mylist/urls expressionlist mylist/expressions } dest ads { domainlist ads/domains urllist ads/urls expressionlist ads/expressions } acl { default { pass itsok !porn !mylist all redirect http://localhost/banned.html } } this bans porn, bans mylist and bans ads but lets through itsok even if on banned list. what i want to do is have a different redirect for porn , mylist and ads, so that if goin to a porn site they are sent to http://localhost/porn.html and when they go to mylist they are sent to http://localhost/mylist.html and when they go to ads they ar redirect to http://localhost/banned.html at the moment they are just sent to http://localhost/banned.html for all banned sites. all ideas are welcome and thanks guys your doin a great job.

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Re: Health Service MS deal
by Frank Shute 20 Nov '01

20 Nov '01

Michael Brown wrote: > People following this thread might be interested to read a page on the > DTI's web site that states: > > an "undertaking" means any entity which is engaged in economic > activities. It does not have to be profit-making so long as the > activity carried out is one which in principle has commercial > competitors. Charities, universities, research institutions and > voluntary entities may be caught within the meaning of "undertaking" if > they carry out economic activities. The concept of "undertaking" > embraces public sector as well as private sector entities. > > Now, the NHS "in principle" has commercial competitors in the form of > private health-care providers, doesn't it? This would lend credence to an > argument that the NHS *is* an undertaking, full stop. > > I have e-mailed the DTI asking for clarification of the above paragraph. Very much a case of `gotcha'. The OFT is arguing against what the DTI states in black & white is the case. I agree with Nigel regards submitting it to Slashdot. The Register is also worth considering - they quite enjoy bashing MS and the government in no particular order. First it's best to wait for a response from the OFT and then perhaps write it up and mirror it on a few sites or otherwise the one-site will get `slashdotted'. Happy to use my site for the purposes. -- Frank *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Boroughbridge. Tel: 01423 323019 --------- PGP keyID: 0xC0B341A3 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/

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grep o/p re: Cygnus
by James & Cybèle 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Here is the grep o/p as suggested. So what does this tell me about my problems setting up Cygnus????!!! James Carter > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > root 303 0.0 0.3 5660 792 ? S Nov01 0:00 /opt/kde/bin/kdm > root 21516 0.0 0.1 1912 360 ? S Nov09 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 > root 6811 0.0 2.6 25888 6740 ? S Nov16 0:58 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt07 -auth /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-0xbLYZ >

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Print servers
by Rob Keeling 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

I am trying to reuse some old 486 machines as standard Lpr Print servers. I have located various floppy disc distributions of Linux which are supposed to do this, however the most promising one didn`t use DHCP, which was going to be a problem. Has anyone done this, if so which distribution etc? Any info greatly appreciated! Rob Keeling Network Manager Queen Elizabeth`s Grammar School Ashbourne

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Installing 7.3
by Giles Nunn 19 Nov '01

19 Nov '01

Has anyone tried out SuSE 7.3 yet? I am having problems installing the professional version. At the end of the install routine it does its normal thing of reboot to enable the install before configuring, but with this version it locks up completely and needs resetting to go any further. I have only tried it on the one PC so far. It is a brand new P3-866 with 512M RAM, an IDE hard drive, and an ATI graphics card? I expect I can get around it manually, but it is annoying and I would like to know if it is likely to be anything I am doing. ____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________

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Samba 2.2.2
by Rob Keeling 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

I am trying to integrate SuSe Linux into a NT 4 domain, having read the samba website it seems that with the release of samba 2.2.2 winbond etc is now included as standard, though only source code is available for download. Has anyone tried this? Can anyone let me have a set of binaries? Thankyou for your support! Rob Keeling Network Manager Queen Elizabeth`s Grammar School Ashbourne

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Repeat postings
by Matt Johnson 17 Nov '01

17 Nov '01

Michael, Sorry. Read the post again. It was supposed to be a "It's no hassle to delete a mail. Don't worry about it!". I think you got the wrong end of the stick mate. Sorry if it backfired - I was indirect support. -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com

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Repeat postings
by Matt Johnson 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Sorry I was trying to point out that it's causing me little (or no) hassle. Sort of 'Don't worry about it Michael'. Read the post again. Perhaps that backfired. -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com

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Repeat postings
by Michael Beddow 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Has anyone any idea why posts I make to this list sometimes appear twice, with occasionally an hour or so between them? I'm certainly not sending them twice, and I don't see this behaviour with any of the many other lists I subscribe to. Michael --------------------------------------------------------- Michael Beddow http://www.mbeddow.net/

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Repeat postings
by Edgehill e-mail service 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Strangely enough the double postings don't appear on my machine - and I'm using the original MS Mail reader. Perhaps its a MS thing? Regards, Paul Ellison Edgehill College ---------- > From: Matt Johnson <johnsonmlw(a)yahoo.com> > To: SuSe <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Repeat postings > Date: 16 November 2001 15:59 > > > > > My best guess is that the ntl smtp relay somehow > > misunderstands the SUSE > > > listserver and is resending unnecessarily. No use > > in asking ntl about > > > that, though (or anything else for that matter...) > > > > > > Anyway, just so people who get irritated by these > > double posts know it's > > > NOT my fault... > > It's okay. I've found the delete key on my > workstation. Apparantly it's quite easy to delete > mails! I'll be happy to run some courses for MS users > on where to find their delete keys too. > Email me directly for an application form - rather > than post to the list. > > ;) > > -- > Matt > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > >

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New version of CygXF86 install help
by James & Cybèle 16 Nov '01

16 Nov '01

Tried the "check if xdm ....." commands on the server and got the same grey x windows with nothing on it apart form the cursor X. Under etc/X11 there is just the SUSE window manager. Is XDM then a package I just nned to install from the CDs? James > Yup. Follow the instructions in my posting (pasted again below for your > convenience) and you should see the xdm login prompt instead (provided > xdm is running on your server, of course: see point 2 for how to start > it if it isn't) >

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Re: Health Service MS deal
by Kate Hanaghan 15 Nov '01

15 Nov '01

my understanding is that because this was not a new contract - it was basically the re-wording and consiladation of many existing contracts - it didn't have to go to tender. Kate Hanaghan Silicon Media Group +44 207 761 8219 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Evans [mailto:mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 4:23 PM To: Robb Bloomfield Cc: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Re: Health Service MS deal > Is it just me, or is this turning into an anti MS list? If the NHS was > spending this cash to implement Solaris with Oracle db's then would you kick > up such a fuss? I honestly think not.... The difference is that Sun is not a monopoly, nor have they been found guilty (more than once) of breaking the law. The simple fact is that Microsoft is a quite nasty organisation, who at some time in the past appear to have become something more akin to gangsters and terrorists than an honest business. You also appear to be missing the point that tendering rules may well have been ignored or a tender may have been put together in such a way as to exclude all bar one supplier. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Question
by Matt Hinds 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

Hi All, I've currently set up a machine (RH 7.1 sorry!) to be both an extra file server and intranet server. To get content up on the intranet I'm using FTP through both Leech FTP and Dreamweaver. However I'm currently experiencing a massive time delay when trying to initiate the FTP session (likewise with Telnet; server is using WU-FTPD), once in it's fine. This would be ok for myself but in the future we will be running web development courses and I require this server to be used by students and a delay of this length would be unacceptable. The HTTP service however (apache) is running instantly and serves everythin as soon as you request it. The machine I'm using was orginally an NT server and suffered no problems at all with any type of time delay. It has 256Mb RAM, Intel Fast Ethernet NIC, gallons of disk space (RAID 5 array) and a 750 AMD processor. It's plugged into a fast Ethernet switch and even if you're on the same switch as it you still suffer the delay. Any help would be gratefully received. Cheers, Matt Hinds CLC Systems Manager Heworth Grange CLC Legal Disclaimer: This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The opinions expressed in this message are those of the sender and not those of Heworth Grange Comprehensive School.

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New version of CygXF86
by Michael Brown 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

For the attention of anyone who has previously downloaded our Cygwin/XFree86 package, or anyone who wants to experiment with running Linux thin-client sessions from Windows workstations without having to play around with dual-booting or network-booting: A new version of CygXF86 is available from http://osie.sourceforge.net/CygXF86.zip CygXF86 allows you to run a Linux thin-client session (i.e. an X-Windows session) within Windows. If you download the zip file and follow the very simple installation instructions, then you will get a "Cygwin" icon on your desktop. Double-clicking this icon will start up an X server and connect to a Linux application server on the network. You can use this (almost) as though it were a native Linux terminal, but you can switch between Windows and Linux just by pressing Alt-Tab. The licences are (AFAICR) a mixture of GPL/LGPL and X11, so it's all properly free software including the bits we've written (which are GPL). This package is similar to what you will get by downloading Cygwin and Cygwin/XFree86 directly from cygwin.com, except that: 1) It will take up a lot less disk space and will be faster to download. 2) It will automatically determine your screen size and colour depth. This should now work under 95/98/Me and NT/2K. 3) It will not be confused by any dial-up interfaces you may have. 4) It is only suitable for use as a thin-client terminal. It doesn't include anything else from the Cygwin distribution such as bash, gcc etc. This is the reason for (1). This is a beta-release. Please send any bug reports and/or patches to me. Please note the requirements: you do need a working Linux server that will respond to XDMCP broadcasts. You can test this from any Linux box by logging on as root and running "/usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -broadcast". If you get a GUI login screen appearing, then all's well. The .zip file is approximately 18MB. You can check that you downloaded it correctly by using md5sum - you should get: $ md5sum CygXF86.zip 43372284b60e9e386f91bad60f5f6a12 CygXF86.zip Ideal for anyone who wants to sneak a Linux thin-client server into their school network - now you can give everyone the ability to run Linux thin-client sessions without having to disrupt the Windows workstations! Michael Brown http://www.fensystems.co.uk/

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Question
by Grainge, Derek 14 Nov '01

14 Nov '01

Sorry. PArt 2. Are you using DNS lookups to resolve machine names? Try putting an entry into hosts on the PC. Just a thought. > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Hinds [mailto:M.Hinds@heworthgrange.schoolzone.co.uk] > Sent: 14 November 2001 08:41 > To: SuSe-Linux-UK-Schools > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Question > > > Hi All, > > I've currently set up a machine (RH 7.1 sorry!) to be both an > extra file > server and intranet server. To get content up on the intranet > I'm using FTP > through both Leech FTP and Dreamweaver. However I'm currently > experiencing a > massive time delay when trying to initiate the FTP session > (likewise with > Telnet; server is using WU-FTPD), once in it's fine. This > would be ok for > myself but in the future we will be running web development > courses and I > require this server to be used by students and a delay of > this length would > be unacceptable. The HTTP service however (apache) is running > instantly and > serves everythin as soon as you request it. > > The machine I'm using was orginally an NT server and suffered > no problems at > all with any type of time delay. It has 256Mb RAM, Intel Fast > Ethernet NIC, > gallons of disk space (RAID 5 array) and a 750 AMD processor. > It's plugged > into a fast Ethernet switch and even if you're on the same > switch as it you > still suffer the delay. > > Any help would be gratefully received. > > Cheers, > Matt Hinds > CLC Systems Manager > Heworth Grange CLC > > > Legal Disclaimer: > > This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If an > addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, > please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail. If you > are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, > distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The opinions > expressed in this message are those of the sender and not > those of Heworth Grange Comprehensive School. > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of inappropriate attachments and certain obscenities. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. ********************************************************************************

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schools needed for filming
by Kate Hanaghan 13 Nov '01

13 Nov '01

Hi all, We're looking to do some filming at a school that is running Linux or open source software on school equipment. We've already been up to Yorks to see Silcoates, which was great. But we need a couple more schools to make the programme complete. If anyone is interested or knows of any school that might be, do drop me a line. The finished programme will be available on our website. Thanks Kate Hanaghan Ebusiness editor Silicon Media Group +44 207 761 8219 http://www.silicon.com

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NYC High Schools
by Ruben Safir 11 Nov '01

11 Nov '01

What kind of programs does SuSe have for HS's in the NYC area? I'm looking at making a large effort to get linux into schools in the Brooklyn area through NYLXS. Suse is my favorite distro so... I was suprised to see this mailing list. I hope we can be your feet on the ground in this area. Ruben -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net 1-718-382-5752

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SuSE 7.2, RedHat 7.2 speed
by Matt Johnson 09 Nov '01

09 Nov '01

Michael (and all), Erm, sorry - since reinstalling SuSE7.2, StarOffice is running equally quickly on either distro. For some unknown reason, it wasn't before, but now, on a clean install, it's right as rain. Thanks for your answers - I learnt something about how it all hangs together while trying to solve it. Cheers -- Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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D Link DFE570TX 4 port network card
by Phil Driscoll 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

On the advice of this list, we recently purchased a D Link DFE570TX 4 port network card to use in our new Linux server to give us loads of network bandwidth to the machine. The card is fitted and working great, and I can imagine various schemes to exploit the four interfaces. Can anyone advise on the best way to do this? For information, the server is essentially using Samba to impersonate an NT domain controller which provides authentication and data storage for all staff and pupils. Client machines are mainly NT workstation, although there are about 30 Risc OS machines, and will shortly be 100 or so LTSP Linux boxes working to another server (or servers) which will also rely on this server for storage and authentication. Sadly we only have one 24 port switch and shed loads of hubs. -- Phil Driscoll

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Re: CCNA & SuSE 7.3
by Paul Munro 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

As someone who had to take a CCNA to keep my job, I would say that I agree with the last assessment of their worth. CCNA and all other related exams are merely a peek at whether you know the Cisco way etc. The test I took was very easy--in fact, nothing like I had been warned of or imagined :-O On a separate note I was considering Red Hat 7.2 this week, but someone here mentioned it had problems with ext3 etc., has anyone had any experience with 7.2; and the other question is: is SuSE 7.3 any good (don't know if I should ask this on a "SuSE" list ;-) Thanks! Paul

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] D Link DFE570TX 4 port network card
by Chris Puttick 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

Strictly speaking, trunking is a reference to VLAN capability, based on the telephony concept of a trunk line. The term normally used to describe grouping multiple physical network interfaces as a single logical network interface is channelling (port-, ether-, -aggregation), depending on vendor. BTW, Cisco see the CCNA as a GCSE/AS level. Rate people with this qualification appropriately. To compare with an MCP or A-level (not that I'm suggesting an MCP is an A-Level - more KS4), see the CCNP. To compare with a degree/masters, see the CCIE. Chris Puttick MCP, CCNA (but just for the CV), BSc (Hons), MIMIS, JAQA (only when applying for jobs) -----Original Message----- From: Michael Beddow To: phil(a)dialsolutions.co.uk; suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Sent: 11/5/01 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] D Link DFE570TX 4 port network card On Monday, November 05, 2001 12:18 PM Phil Driscoll wrote: > On the advice of this list, we recently purchased a D Link DFE570TX 4 port > network card to use in our new Linux server to give us loads of network > bandwidth to the machine. > > The card is fitted and working great, and I can imagine various schemes to > exploit the four interfaces. Can anyone advise on the best way to do this? > [...] Does your switch support "trunking" (this is the SMC documentation's term, I'm not sure if it's used by other manufacturers). With some SMC switches at least, you can designate two or four ports to be a "trunk", connected either to another switch, or to a multiport NIC. That would give you an 800Mb/s full duplex pipe between your server and the switch. The kiddies could have some fun trying to saturate that! Michael --------------------------------------------------------- Michael Beddow http://www.mbeddow.net/ XML and the Humanities: http://xml.lexilog.org.uk/ Linux in Schools: http://linux.lexilog.org.uk/ The Anglo-Norman Dictionary http://anglo-norman.net/ --------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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DLink Card
by Paul Munro 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

Hi there. I know something of this from my Cisco training. Firstly, your card probably does support link aggregation, and what this means is that simply you can share the load of data coming into or out of the card at any one time. How you implement this is sometimes down to proprietary protocols, and sometimes not so much the protocols but the hardarwe and the type of switch involved (such as a Cisco 29xx XL). What you normally need to watch for in such cases is looping (as someone here also stated before my post). When you don't implement the STA (Spanning Tree Algorithm) to designate root ports etc on your switches, things tend to lose their way around the LAN, get repeated, and generally cause lots of pain! STA stops this, and though needed at the switch (not at the card), it may be worth looking at this thought its not terribly important for your set-up right now. With "trunking", you are probably best using two lines for data access and two for redundancy; the server would be able to guarantee a certain level of service this way--and again, how you do this will be down to the individual switch manufacturer, type of switch and your Linux configuration etc. Personally I would aggregate the links and see what kind of throughput I'm getting at peak times; use a good analyser and find out if there are any problems, and watch for loops (though I doubt you'll have a problem there anyway). HTH Paul

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] D Link DFE570TX 4 port network card
by Edgehill e-mail service 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

---------- > From: Michael Beddow <mbnospam(a)mbeddow.net> > To: phil(a)dialsolutions.co.uk; suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] D Link DFE570TX 4 port network card > Date: 05 November 2001 11:45 > > On Monday, November 05, 2001 12:18 PM > Phil Driscoll wrote: > > > On the advice of this list, we recently purchased a D Link DFE570TX 4 > port > > network card to use in our new Linux server to give us loads of > network > > bandwidth to the machine. > > > > The card is fitted and working great, and I can imagine various > schemes to > > exploit the four interfaces. Can anyone advise on the best way to do > this? > > > [...] > > Does your switch support "trunking" (this is the SMC documentation's > term, I'm not sure if it's used by other manufacturers). Trunking is an accepted term used (or understood) by most manufacturers. Switches varyin their trunking support - some need the IP adresses to be identical across the trunked ports, some need different, others seem to reject anything other than a second trunked switch :( My own (painful) experience says: try it when things are quiet, but you'll need a few volunteers to test the configuration - trunked connections occasionally work perfectly until the first trunked channel is saturated, then take the whole network down. Good Luck. Regards, Paul Ellison ICT Manager Edgehill College > With some SMC > switches at least, you can designate two or four ports to be a "trunk", > connected either to another switch, or to a multiport NIC. That would > give you an 800Mb/s full duplex pipe between your server and the switch. > The kiddies could have some fun trying to saturate that! > > Michael > --------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Beddow http://www.mbeddow.net/ > XML and the Humanities: http://xml.lexilog.org.uk/ > Linux in Schools: http://linux.lexilog.org.uk/ > The Anglo-Norman Dictionary http://anglo-norman.net/ > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > >

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Linux in Schools Workshop
by SILCOATSIT＠aol.com 03 Nov '01

03 Nov '01

Hi everybody We are running a workshop on using Linux at Silcoates School, Wakefield West Yorks. On 2nd of November and still have a few places left, if anybody is interested. The day is aimed mainly at people who are thinking about deploying Linux in schools and want to see it in action with maybe a short session on LTSP and the new StarOffice 6 depending on demand. Below is the text of a letter we sent to Independant Schools in the north of England. So if anyone is interested please get in touch. John WIlson Using Linux and other open source programs in schools For two years Silcoates has been running its teaching network entirely on Linux servers. The system is reliable, versatile, and powerful and has proved its worth in that period. We are now offering a one day introductory course on the use of Open Source software in place of proprietary commercial systems, open to people from any sector of education. Here is a chance to acquire first hand knowledge of open source systems within a working school environment. You will be given the opportunity to share what we have learned about Linux in practice and try our systems out for yourself. The course will pre-suppose no specialised technical knowledge, but anyone who wishes will be able to discuss technical issues with those responsible for the system. We will be focussing on Linux as a server platform (using Windows 98 clients), but we will also be offering a chance to try Open Source applications software in the form of Star Office (which can run on Linux clients as well as Windows machines). Depending on the response to this initial venture, we hope to offer more detailed courses in the near future tailored to the specific needs and requirements of those interested in moving their own installations to Linux. There are further details of the use of Open Source software at Silcoates, giving some idea of the areas we will be covering, at http://linux.lexilog.org.uk/ The course will take place on Friday, 2nd November and will start at 10am. Lunch will be provided. If you wish to attend, please fill in the form below and send to Les Brown, Silcoates School, Wrenthorpe, Wakefield WF2 OPD, enclosing £15 per person to cover costs and lunch.

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