March 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Intel Inside?
by adrian.wells 13 Mar '00

13 Mar '00

Many thanks to those that have replied. So far four users have noted that they have AMD rather than Intel CPUs. Incidentally there is no expiry period for misrepresentation. Rather than block this service, you may wish to respond by hitting the reply button. Many thanks Adrian Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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Default window sizes
by adrian.wells 13 Mar '00

13 Mar '00

Hi, Having installed SuSE several times now, I must say that the install from CD-ROM is much nicer, however I have always had problems with my graphics/monitor settings and have found that many of the windows in the GUI (especially for setting system settings) all assume that you are working in SVGA and it is impossible to access the 'apply' buttons from VGA. Are there alternative apps that I could use? Those that allow the window to be resized do not reposition the buttons! Thanks for the Samba reference posted today Roger, that is to be my next task. Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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Multiple X desktop using vnc (update)
by Bill Antonia 13 Mar '00

13 Mar '00

Bill Antonia Beacon Community College Home e-mail bill(a)beaconhillcott.freeserve.co.uk Work e-mail at(a)beacon.e-sussex.sch.uk Overlooked a small detail. To make sure every user gets the correct manager from the start, you need to edit /usr/X11R6/bin/vncserver. There is a line which contains twm &, change twm to start the manager you require ie kwm for KDE. When the vnc client is running, type kde (to start the KDE bits and pieces) in the console window. Also, many displays are set to 800x600. This means, with the default settings, you have to scroll around the screen which may be annoying. To fix this, change the $geometry setting to $geometry = "800x600" The only way I have found to kill the vnc server is to do a ps x to find out the Xvnc process number then use kill. Bye Bill

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Samba reference
by Roger Whittaker 13 Mar '00

13 Mar '00

This url appears to have the complete text of the O'Reilly Samba book: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ Could be very useful to anyone who's doing Samba. -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Discless clients
by Alan Davies 10 Mar '00

10 Mar '00

To what extent is this possible? Without the hassle of EPROMS and boot roms in the ethernet card - lets say that there is a small local hard drive. How do you get the kernel to load - or MUST that load from the local drive? Can most of the rest be remote - including swap files, and the rest of the root structure. Are there special permissions required on files/directories for all this to operate. Its just that Linux like everything else does seem to require an increasing amount of hard disc and the possibility of using older slower machines as Xserver clients would be undermined if the 540MB limit on some old motherboards - not to mention to 210MB hard drive thats there. Of course there might be a fair amount of paging with limited RAM. Do you really need 16MB as a minimum to run LINUX as an Xserver client only? (How did they ever manage UNIX on mahines with 4MB or less?) Alan Davies Head of Computing Birkenhead School

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Thanks for help
by Chris Davies 08 Mar '00

08 Mar '00

Thanks to all for their help with my keyboard problem. I ended up reinstalling for a number of reasons and haven't had the problems since. I installed a number of items such as apache. The machine is a 486 and even with 32Mb seems to be slow. There are a great amny processes running, such as apache, etc.. How can I control which processes start up at boot time - e.g. how can I leave apache installed, but not have it start up automatically? Thanks to everyone again. Chris Chris Davies Head of IT Epsom College College Road Epsom Surrey KT17 4JQ tel.: 01372 821178 fax.: 01372 821005

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Introducing me properly
by Giles Nunn 08 Mar '00

08 Mar '00

Hello Everyone, I posted an answer of sorts to Chris Davies' problem but I forgot to introduce myself. I run SuSE on my workstation at work and at home - my kids (age 5 - 18) use it quite happily (apart from a few complaints about lack of windows games). In work I look after Carmarthenshire schools Internet. I have Linux on all servers and most of the schools are now or will be using it for mail and proxy service. I have been reading the stuff coming to this list with interest. In particular I look forward to seeing how the diskless client setup goes. We have the same problem with lots of older PC's being superceded. The biggest problem to my mind is that the GUI, which is what everyone wants, needs lots of space. Keep up the interesting chat. ____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Looking for some serious help.
by Admin2 08 Mar '00

08 Mar '00

Hi all Since there has been some response to my mailings I thought I would mail again to let you know what I have done so far. Really just research and planning I started with the linux diskless HOWTO, which are part of the distribution but are also online in several places. These were particularly technical and I have to admit a little confusing for someone who is really very new to Linux. However there were some useful links to other sites. The main two free distributions of the bits and bobs you need to set up this sort of thing appear to be Netboot Etherboot both of which have links from the HOWTO file. In both cases though I found the amount of help wasn't exactly hand holding, more experience was definately needed. However then Roger posted the URL of the Linux Terminal Server Project. Now this seems a much better place to look as they seem interested in helping the virtual beginner to get this running. The site has good detail instructions on setting up a Red Hat Linux machine to be your server and has all the necessary files available for download. I am now planning in the Easter hols to start off with one good machine and a 486 and follow the instructions step by step and see if i can set up a red hat server with the 486 talking to it. Thats just step one. Incidentally don't be put off as I was with all the talk of EPROMS that you have to have burnt to fit onto your Network card to remotely boot. To start with you can be booting from floppy only once you get up and running do you need to find someone who can burn EPROMS (luckily we know someone) Anyway thats my progress report. Des Reynolds BBHS Lowestoft

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Really Weird
by Chris Davies 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

I used a machine set up with linux yesterday. Today I can't log in. As soon as I type root as a login name it tells me "login correct" Does this mean I have to re-install all over again? What caused this? Chris Chris Davies Head of IT Epsom College College Road Epsom Surrey KT17 4JQ tel.: 01372 821178 fax.: 01372 821005

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Looking for some serious help.
by Admin2 07 Mar '00

07 Mar '00

Prompted to my first post by this. We have had the box for some time, opened yes but not installed, partly because there are too many other pressing issues to deal with here, and partly because I have not sorted out details of how to use Linux in the school. I have had various notions in my head, but the plan outlined below seems to be an immediate application for us to try here. Therefore I would be pleased to be included in any advice offered on this topic. I have been reading posts with great interest, and kept details for reference, as the list is building into a useful resource. I am sure (well, hope, I do not want to be the only lurker) that others must lurk in this manner. Thus, keep it going. I am sure that when I start to get my 'hands dirty' I will be asking for solutions and fixes. Chris Ferguson-Gow (IT Technician) Tunbridge Wells Grammar School for Boys St John's Road Tunbridge Wells Kent TN4 9XB Tel 01892 529551 FAX 01892 536833 ---------- > From: Chris Davies <cjd(a)epsomcollege.sch.uk> > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Looking for some serious help. > Date: 29 February 2000 14:47 > > From: "DCR" <DCR(a)bbhs.suffolk.sch.uk> > To: <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Date sent: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:03:15 -0000 > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Looking for some serious help. > > > > This is exactly the sort of thing I want to be able to do. With > computers having a "useful" life currently of 4/5 years it means we > shall be replacing 25/20% of our stock annually. When I see what > the average pupil actually achieves on a computer, this seems to > be unnecessary. I, too will have an increasing number of "old" > machines and would like to use them in this way, too. > > Chris > > > > Hi all, > > > > Okay I have been reading this list for a couple of weeks with increasing > > interest. > > Now I have a rough plan of what I want to do with my Linux set up, and I > > need some guidance from all of you that seeem to be so much more advanced > > than me. > > > > At the moment we have a Linux server running Suse 6.1 which acts as our > > proxy server controlling internet access. We also have a NT network running > > which is our main network. > > > > Now what i want is to set up some machines that run directly from the Linux > > server, that run the kde desktop and are able to surf the internet. That is > > all they have to do, I don't want them to access the main network or run > > any other applications, just be able to surf the net and possibly safe > > files to disk. > > > > Now what i need to know is how hard this will be and what sort of hardware > > I need. > > > > I have a cupboard full of old 486's in various states of disrepair and was > > hoping to be able to put these to some use. I am particularly keen to use > > them as diskless terminals if possible. > > > > So now what i need is a very friendly soul or souls who would be willing to > > help talk me through all this, in exchange for infinite thanks and any help > > with web design, visual basic, javascript or any of the other things i do > > know about. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from someone soon > > > > Des Reynolds > > BBHS > > Lowestoft > > > Chris Davies > Head of IT > Epsom College > College Road > Epsom > Surrey > KT17 4JQ > tel.: 01372 821178 > fax.: 01372 821005

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