March 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Could be some useful things here
by Roger Whittaker 02 Mar '00

02 Mar '00

http://www.seul.org/edu/report9.html Linux in education report -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Diskless stuff
by Roger Whittaker 02 Mar '00

02 Mar '00

People who have expressed an interest in this might want to look at http://www.ltsp.org/ -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Hi everyone, another use for samba
by Bill Antonia 02 Mar '00

02 Mar '00

Bill Antonia Beacon Community College Home e-mail bill(a)beaconhillcott.freeserve.co.uk Work e-mail at(a)beacon.e-sussex.sch.uk Just a note to say hello and say how we use Linux We currently use 4 Linux machines, one for proxy internet access, one as a router (firewall!) between our curriculum and administration networks and two to provide inter subnet communications through the use of samba. Both networks use NT servers to control the individual domains however this means a user would have to log on once for the home domain and then repeatedly for each share connected to on the remote domain. To get around this I use samba and smbmounts. 1. Set samba to do server security on the password NT server within its domain and make that Linux box as a part of that domain. 2. Make sure all your users are added to the user list on Linux box. You could set their passwords to * in /etc/shadow so the cannot telnet. 3. Create a directory on the Linux box which you wish your users to connect. This directory can be left empty! 4. Make sure that the directory created is shared through samba. 5. Use smbmount to connect to the other domain using a high enough user/password to give your users access to the other domain. SuSE 6.1 had a bit of bother at this point unless you had used a patch or had recompiled the kernel. SuSE 6.3 has no problems! mount the remote share using smbmount //remoteservername/sharename /mountpoint -U username%password A nice thing about this is you can decide which machines can connect to the samba server if those machines use fixed IP addresses. Note that all the users take on the user identity of the connection to the remote domain and also their security. One way to restrict the connection is to change the access rights of the users on each share within samba. 6. Finally place appropriate NET USE commands in your login scripts to the samba server within your domain. And hey presto you connect directly to the shares on the remote domain when you log in. This is one way, to enable connection in the reverse, set up another samba server in the remote domain pointing back. You only need to use one network card in each machine but it probably would enhance performance if they bridged the two subnets, this has not been tested. You can even create home directories on the Linux box which dynamically connects to the remote home directory of that user by using the preexec option to smbmount the remote home share and postexec to unmount the remote share. Hope anybody finds this of use Bill

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What did I install?
by Chris Davies 02 Mar '00

02 Mar '00

During installation I am able to see lots of information about interesting packages and I often select them with the aim of checking them out. By the time I have intalled I've forgotten the names!! Can I get a printout of what I installed with the short description that showed up during installation? Chris Chris Davies Head of IT Epsom College College Road Epsom Surrey KT17 4JQ tel.: 01372 821178 fax.: 01372 821005

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Re: Welcome message
by Roger Whittaker 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Well Ive taken the manual out and started reading it, but I just have not got time to install it yet. I feel that my school will not go down that route as we have not real IT structure and to try and implement anything is an impossible task. I have to lurch from crisis to crisis, Im not allowed to make any decisions as others have that role but do not fulfil it. It only looks good on paper. Sorry about the bleating but it is really frustrating having to try and maintain a system yet have no say at all in how it is managed. >From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> >To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com >Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Welcome message >Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:56:40 +0000 (GMT) > >Hello to new members of the list. > >Don't be shy: post a message to let everyone know how you're getting on >and what you've done with Linux so far. > >There is help out there: ask ... > >Reading list: I'll repost the list of books and web sites I put out once >before. > >`Old members' - keep posting! > >-- >Roger Whittaker >SuSE Linux Ltd >The Kinetic Centre >Theobald Street >Borehamwood >Herts >WD6 4PJ >---------------------- >020 8387 1482 >---------------------- >roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk >---------------------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Good news for old/dead systems.
by Edgehill E-Mail Service 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Hi, For your information and edification ... A little cheerful news :) History: We have a number of elderly Tiny systems, fitted with AMD K5-100's in a Spear mainboard. Under Win'95, these occasionally undergo a partial chip failure - DOS is OK, Win3.11 is OK, Win'95 won't evel load. The cheap fix we've used so far is an Evergreen 200MX upgrade - but since Centaur (IDT Winchip) have gone offline, we can't get the machines fixed without a new mainboard + Chip + RAM. So two systems are currently down. The *good* news: Just to waste a few minutes, yesterday, I loaded SuSE onto one of the Windows-Dead systems. It lit up, loaded a GUI, and continues to run well. If many more of the old systems die soon, we'll be going completely over to Linux before schedule!! <wry grin> Regards, Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edgehill IT Department Email Service. Please check sender's address from body of Message for return address. Find us at: www.edgecoll.clara.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Really Weird
by adrian.wells 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Chris, I had some peculiar effects when trying to log in when already logged in! Is that your problem? Further to Paul's reply AND/OR the keyboard is at fault AND your BIOS is using the typematic keyboard input routines, you could try extending the auto repeat speed - Someone may have been playing (this would be evident in other repeated keystrokes). Roger, Or does LINUX handle it's own keyboard input directly from the hardware? If so, there must (I assume) be a key de-bounce routine somewhere, one would hope that one could change the 'comfort' values for this. Further to logging in/out, Can you please tell me if there is a simple way to log out of the GUI (i.e. back to the command prompt) other than turning the graphical login option off? > I used a machine set up with LINUX yesterday. Today I can't log in. > As soon as I type root as a login name it tells me "login correct" > > Does this mean I have to re-install all over again? > > What caused this? > > Chris > Chris Davies > Head of IT > Epsom College > College Road > Epsom > Surrey > KT17 4JQ > tel.: 01372 821178 > fax.: 01372 821005 Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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Reading materials (for those who missed it)
by Roger Whittaker 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

----------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm reposting this in the hope that it might be useful to new members. If anyone has found good sources of Linux information `out there' which they would like to share, why not do a similar posting? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For those new to Linux: it takes a while to find all the massive amounts of help and documentation which are there. Here are some places to look. The SuSE Linux 6.3 manual: sleep with it under your pillow. http://suse-linux.co.uk There is a support database and a harware database among many other things. `Running Linux' published by O'Reilly (now 3rd edition - don't buy the 2nd which is still in some bookshops). I found this book very useful when I began. The Help system on your system (the fuzzy chameleon button if you use KDE) or type file://localhost/usr/doc/susehilf/index_e.html in your browser. Everything in /usr/doc/ including the howtos and mini-howtos The man command: eg man ls tells you everything you might want to know (and probably don't) about the ls command. The info command. The Linux Documentation Project http://www.linuxdoc.org/ Slashdot http://slashdot.org/ Linux Weekly News http://lwn.net/ Linux Gazette http://www.linuxgazette.com/ If you are stuck with a strange error message or something you can't do and you do a news search on Altavista http://www.av.com/ you are very likely to find an answer in old news group postings. This is a tiny sample :) -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Welcome message
by Roger Whittaker 01 Mar '00

01 Mar '00

Hello to new members of the list. Don't be shy: post a message to let everyone know how you're getting on and what you've done with Linux so far. There is help out there: ask ... Reading list: I'll repost the list of books and web sites I put out once before. `Old members' - keep posting! -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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