December 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

TLAs (was Router IP addresses)
by kevin.taylor＠powerconv.alstom.com 27 Dec '00

27 Dec '00

Well, TLAs in conversation can be quite useful once you are used to them - but I don't want to get into the ins and outs of what is permitted and why, but I would like to draw peoples attention to (if you are interested) : http://www.northants.lug.org.uk/jargon.htm Contains the most comment TLAs in use on our LUG mailing list (saves a bit of head scratching when they occur anyway :-) Kevin.

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Linux freeze up
by Gary Parr 27 Dec '00

27 Dec '00

Hi I have had a squidbox running on NTL for a while now, using a dialup account. I have recently had a cable modem installed with NTL, but if connect it to a 2nd ethernet card in the linuxbox, after a while it will just look the machine up. Cant even change consoles (if thast what its called CTRL+ALT F1-F4 etc) AT first I thought it was a HD problem, but after installing to a new HD it does the same. Gary _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Betting...
by Azrael Angel Of Death 27 Dec '00

27 Dec '00

> >Well I was planning on thursday, that's assuming Railtrak can manage to >ensure there is something for trains to run on... > >Anyway not sure carting around 10's of thousands of pounds of documents is >a good idea :) > >-- >Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: >+44 1392 204763 Thursday.. hmm.. I was going Friday... anyone else for either day? --Azrael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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Proprietry formats etc.
by Derek Harding 22 Dec '00

22 Dec '00

Hi folks, Happy Christmas and a good new year to one and all. In Surrey the SEGfL are proposing to connect us to a 2MB/s link (courtesy of RM) but will be web-hosting on a system only using Frontpage support (no cgi etc.). Does anyone have experience of this product, any security issues which need to be addressed etc? Secondly, can anyone tell me definitively what the government position regarding document transmission formats is? I understand that they have a policy that only non-proprietry formats should be used (e.g. RTF) but I've lost/can't find any official info. Did Becta have something on this once? See you at BETT? -- Best wishes, Derek Harding, ICT & Network Manager hardingd(a)warlingham.surrey.sch.uk

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Thanks for all the router traffic{Router IP addresses}
by James H. Carter & Cybèle de Jong 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Thanks to everyone who has chipped in on this thread. I am simultaneously more informed and confused! Definitely confused about Demon now. Our school dial up account with Demon has a dynamically assigned IP address (DAIPA)! Are there other sorts of Demon accounts. James Carter South Lee School www.southlee.demon.co.uk

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Router IP addresses
by James H. Carter & Cybèle de Jong 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

Read ALL the books..am still confused... ....Have a Network of PC working under SAMBA ....Want to connect these to the web.... ....Can I do this using a dynamically assigned account from DEMON? If the intranet addresses are 192.168.1.1 etc What do I call the Router and the intranet card the router is attached to? 0.0.0.0? James Carter

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] StarOffice
by Azrael Angel Of Death 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

>*smiles* Wow.. I'd love to have the powerful machine I use. Could I quickly edit my mail? Purlease???? Wow.. I'd love to have the powerful machine I use. ^^^ YOU The powerful machine _you_ use. *beats himself over the head with a stuffed Tux* --Azrael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses
by Simon Wood 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

> -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Shute [SMTP:shute@esperance.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:45 AM > To: Schools List > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses > > I thought I'd mention that a static IP allows you to have any number > of email addresses and you can then pick up your mail via SMTP from Demon > and distribute it to your users via POP3 or IMAP. To my mind that's a > big benefit of using Demon. The static IP also makes the possibility > of remote admin via ssh a relatively easy proposition. [Simon Wood] The real advantage of a static IP is that you can run your own SMTP deamon (visible to the outside world) so that you don't have to rely on Demon to store and forward it to you. In this case people email you directly.... If you do have someone storing/forwarding email for you then you can generally pick it up from either SMTP or POP3. Using an application such as Fetchmail you can pick up emails from a 'unified' (multiple names in a single box) POP3 mail boxes and distribute them to their individual destinations. POP3 generally has the advantage that emails are only deleted once they have been successfully collected, a failure during SMTP collection could result in emails being lost. Simon W.

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] StarOffice
by Azrael Angel Of Death 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

>By the way, Anyone out there who has not tried Star >Office by Sun should have a look, it's smooth, non clunky and does most of >what I want. >Kind regards > >Adrian > *smiles* Wow.. I'd love to have the powerful machine I use. Yes.. I like staroffice.. but non-clunky and smooth? I wish! Even the open souorced version of staroffice (openoffice) with it's more component like structure is a little bloated for me to use happily. Oh I wish wish wish father christmas would bring me a 1+GHz Thunderbird this year... Abiword however.. while not feature-packed.. it's slick! I was writing my squid document in it, when somehow it got corrupted in the style markup. All I needed to do was open it up in notepad (it has an XML markup.. all text based) and cut and paste out the text. If that had been word.. I could have thrown it all away. As for a good office package.. KOffice is quite neat. --Azrael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses
by Simon Wood 21 Dec '00

21 Dec '00

> -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Wells [SMTP:adrian-wells@175-nbr.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:06 AM > To: Simon Wood; Schools List > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Router IP addresses > > Would James need a permanent connection to do this rather than a dial-up? > otherwise mail would be returned if he is not visible to the net. [Simon Wood] Yes, you could try it on a dial up (if it were up enough of the time), but the senders machine would try to deliver and fail, it would probably enforce a timed wait before trying again. These waits could mean that it would never try at the same time that you were connected, and eventually the email would be returned to sender as undeliverable. > What I would like to do at home is use a POP3 dial-up account (e.g.. > Freeserve which allows anything@domain and is free) as though it were SMTP > and segregate the mail for different users. Has anyone done this? [Simon Wood] This is standard practice using Fetchmail. Assuming that you are linux based at home... Lots of info on Fetchmail URL http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/ Example configure file (.fetchmailrc) goes something like, though there are probably many ways to do it poll mail.isp.com proto POP3 username mailaccount password mailpassword user rod is user1 here user jane is user2 here user freddy is user3 here This will grab all email in the 'mailaccount' POP3 mailbox, look who it is for & adjust names if necessary and throw it at your local Mail Transfer Agent (MTA, sendmail, exim. etc.) rod(a)mailaccount.isp.com will got to user1. etc. I use this feature to provide mapping of real names to user names, i.e "simon.wood" -> user "simon" Hope this is helpful, Simon W. PS. I had the mispleasure of using freeserve (in PC world to look up Monitor spec) last sunday, and it was dog slow.... you might be pleased with the other 'free' ISP's. Personally I use uklinux.net and would recomend it.

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