February 2005 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Pam_mount on SuSe 9.1
by Rob Keeling 06 May '05

06 May '05

I am trying to install SuSE 9.1 as a workstation in a NT 4 Domain network. The default suse 9.1 install installed winbind etc, and configured them allowing me to log on to ssh with a NT username and password. I now want to configure pam_mount to mount a subdirectory of the unix home directory as the NT home directory. I had configured this on an old SuSE 8.1 box, so I think /etc/pam_mount.conf should be OK. However, having added auth and session lines for pam_mount into /etc/pam.d/sshd I can only get to the stage that in /var/log/messages I see pam_mount: error trying to retrieve authtok from auth code How do I enable pam_mount? My /etc/pam.d/sshd file is as follows #%PAM-1.0 auth required pam_unix2.so set_secrpc auth required pam_nologin.so auth required pam_env.so auth optional pam_mount.so use_first_pass account required pam_unix2.so account required pam_nologin.so password required pam_pwcheck.so password required pam_unix2.so use_first_pass use_authtok session required pam_unix2.so # trace or debug session required pam_limits.so session optional pam_mount.so use_first_pass # Enable the following line to get resmgr support for # ssh sessions (see /usr/share/doc/packages/resmgr/README.SuSE) #session optional pam_resmgr.so fake_ttyname Thanks Rob Keeling -- I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by. - Douglas Adams

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FAST bullying schools
by Ian Lynch 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

I have just had a rather disturbing phone call from a client school. Apparently some FAST (Federation against Software Theft) bully has just been scaring them to death about software licensing, mentioning prison sentences and such like and then offering to audit their systems if they pay £5000. The only good side to this is that it seems to have convinced the deputy head involved that they really ought to have a Free software strategy. -- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch(a)zmsl.com> ZMS Ltd

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OOo20 database
by Ian Lynch 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Jacket Potato is a sample ready made database for the OOo 2.0 embedded database. It means you have a ready prepared data source with which to start teaching/learning. http://nothickmanuals.info/doku.php?id=jacketpotato -- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch(a)zmsl.com> ZMS Ltd

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OOo20 database
by francis stanbridge 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

---- Original Message ---- From: thomas_adam16(a)yahoo.com To: johnsonmlw(a)yahoo.com, suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OOo20 database Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:00:17 +0000 (GMT) >> Forms: I haven't got it using a TableB as a lookup for >> the list values in a combobox on FormA, where FormA >> edits and adds to TableA (you know - that wizard you >> run on Access to get combobox values from somewhere >> else (a table) and bung an id rather than the list >> value into the main table). > >A classic MS-Access ideal - and one that teaches so many how not to >design >forms and database backends. I don't want to get into that argument, >but >as a toy database, this'll do just fine. :P Might you expand on the last statement a little - (not that I want to defend Access) - am just interested how looking up values and inserting the appropriate keys in related tables might not be good design - I am starting here from the basis that entities are not repeated in other tables. Francis Stanbridge Community College Bishop's Castle Shropshire SY9 5AY tel: 01588 638257 fax: 01588 630034

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The BETT Show & A Computer on Tottenham Court Road
by Thomas Dyer 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

Firstly, I went to the BETT show on Thursday, and I was really gobsmacked. So many people selling so many things, for so much money, where so many of them are simply "money-grabbing". >From a "technologists" perspective, I found the school admin, print costing, lockdown, no-spam, no-virus, no-billion-dolla-from-nigeria actually rather sad. I've had "locked down, print costed, no-spam and no-virused installs for clients for a long time". I'd been invited down by SchoolLinux who had a stand upstairs. They have a "cut down, locked down" 50meg CD image, based on fedora, gnome, etc with some really nice additions. They've also got some other neat products too... Although they seemed busy enough, I found it comical the people who clearly looked at the price tag and just didn't consider it at all. Warren (who was wearing his SchoolLinux t-shirt) and I had a look at Microsoft Class Server. MS let us stand about for a good 10 minutes at one of their PC's, without anyone bothering us. Does anyone have any info on MS Class Server? It looked like a dot.net application feeding a Q&A ASP web application, dealing with multiple choice tests etc etc. I know that Smoothwall were also about, but didn't get to chat. There were various bits of Education software that were clearly written by ex-educators who didn't seem particularly commercially minded, which were not extremely polished, but which showed a "love of the topic", which was probably the nicest thing. On an entirely off topic and commercially motivated bent, my second point. Computashop on Tottenham Court Road have now got a linux box, instore, running a customised SuSE 9.2 (as of yesterday). We were responsible for the customisations, and our commercial bent is that we're dealing with the physical install and setup onsite, and the support and alike. I know if we were in just about any other country in the world, being able to walk into a "high traffic" computer shop and buying a machine based on Linux, is old news, but it's good for the novelty value ;) As we're still perfecting the final "default" install behaviour, I'd appreciate it this isn't slashdotted about ... ;) But if anyone is in town today, you can (if you want) drop into 51 TCR, and see "a computer". We asked someone to play with it, and they told me that Word and Excel were good, but that they tried to find the "system32" directory because they wanted to delete it and haven't been able to yet. Thomas Xdevelopment

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OOo20 database
by francis stanbridge 27 Feb '05

27 Feb '05

---- Original Message ---- From: johnsonmlw(a)yahoo.com To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OOo20 database Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:28:01 +0000 (GMT) >Hi all, > >I've just grabbed the preview of OO.o2 tonight, and >I'm very impressed with what I've seen. > >Nice improvements all round so far. The "Base" app is >the one. Real potential. > >Forms: I haven't got it using a TableB as a lookup for >the list values in a combobox on FormA, where FormA >edits and adds to TableA (you know - that wizard you >run on Access to get combobox values from somewhere >else (a table) and bung an id rather than the list >value into the main table). Have also tried it and failed to get the lookups working - a fairly key issue for teaching kids how to setup relational databases that are well structured & easy to use. Overal 00.o2 seems very very good. Francis Stanbridge Community College Bishop's Castle Shropshire SY9 5AY tel: 01588 638257 fax: 01588 630034

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meta problems
by Paul Taylor 26 Feb '05

26 Feb '05

Hi all: I hope everyone is enjoying the conference in Coventry. I am unfortunately too ill to get there so hope that there will be a full report forthcoming. I am running a web hosting and design company at school as a way to get decent experience (and Linux brain-washing) to my 6th form. It is all going quite well and we now have several clients. I am using Mambo as it is easy to use and makes for good screen shots in the portfolios. However, one of my customers has complained that their site does not appear on any search engines. I have tried several options relating to the meta tags (which I have been told are somewhat deprecated), but still no sign of the sites. My main site comes up pretty high on Google so it is a bit of an oddity. Any suggestions? Paul -- De omnibus dubitandum

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] FAST bullying schools
by Grainge, Derek 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

> This particular school hasn't signed up to anything but the approach to > get in was by implying they had some evidence that the school was > breaking the law and that they needed to discuss this. Its the most > devious sort of spam marking If indeed this *is* FAST rather than a con. -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] FAST bullying schools
by Grainge, Derek 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

> It would be a risky con as they sent a physical person in Sorry didn't realise they'd got physical! There have been plenty scams where people try to shake you down, and I though this might be a new one to report to the BBC! Derek -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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FLOSSE Posse weblog features Open Source in Education
by Teemu Arina 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

Hiya, We have just opened a new group weblog called FLOSSE Posse (Free/Libre and Open Source Software in Education Posse). The reason for our existence is to start a conversation in the blogosphere about Open Source and Open Content in Education. Current members of the blog are certain members of a finnish association called VOPE (Free and Open Source in Education Association). We accept guest bloggers as well. We will begin with very interesting content related to the future of Open Source in education. We have done several digital audio interviews all around the globe of people who work in the field of education and Open Source. The interviews are analyzed and reported on our website. We aim to bring together different ideas of the future of Open Source from people who work on various fields. In the upcoming weeks we are reporting our findings related to the Comenius 2.1 Contact Seminar held in Europe, which features an Open Source in Education related workshop where the previously mentioned interviews will be analyzed further. Some of the interviews we have done include Stephen Downes (downes.ca), Alan Levine (cogdogblog), Knut Yrvin (skolelinux.no), George Siemens (elearnspace), Teemu Leinonen (fle3) and Antti Kauppi (University of Helsinki). These will be posted shortly. Please visit: http://flosse.dicole.org Best regards, Teemu Arina, CTO Ionstream Oy / Dicole Komeetankuja 4 A 02210 Espoo FINLAND Tel: +358-(0)50 - 555 7636 skype: infe00 Corporate website: http://www.dicole.com Personal weblog: http://infedelic.blogspot.com "Discover, collaborate, learn."

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OpenOffice database
by Chris Puttick 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

Sorry for those who've already seen this, but if you're interested in seeing OpenOffice have a database that will be an easy replacement for MS Access, then your help is needed: http://hsqldb.sourceforge.net/web/openoffice.html If you haven't already had a look, download the latest build of v2 prerelease: http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html and have a look at the DB part. Cheers Chris This message may contain information and/or data that is confidential and legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any use, publication, reproduction or dissemination is strictly prohibited and may violate certain laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy this and all copies of this message and/or data. The content of this message has been scanned by NetIQ MailMarshal for unacceptable language and inappropriate content. European Electronique limited thanks you in anticipation of your co-operation.

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Karoshi
by linuxgirlie 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

Hi, Just a quick spam message to let people know that Karoshi has a new version 4.0rc1, this now has Xen and Colossus run with Graphical Interfaces instead of the console. Karsohi is basically a replacement for your network adminstration system which most schools would run using a system owned by a company with a two letter name ;) More information can be found at www.karoshi.org.uk Sorry ;) Jo -- Spread FireFox: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/register&r=32751 Get FireFox: http://www.getfirefox.com OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org Mandrake: http://www.mandrakelinux.com Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk

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VLE Usage Survey
by Miles Berry 11 Feb '05

11 Feb '05

I've been working on virtual learning environment (VLE, sometimes referred to as learning platform or learning management system) implementation for an MBA Educational Management dissertation, and would like to find out more about experience elsewhere in this technology. My particular interest is the extent to which VLEs can contribute to knowledge management in schools. I've put together an online survey and would be very grateful if list members who're using VLEs could take 15 minutes to respond. Responses will be treated confidentially, and there's no need to identify yourself or your school unless you so wish. The address is http://vle.dyndns.org If you know of others who are using VLEs in their schools, I wonder if you could pass the address on to them: hardly a scientific sample I know, but given the still rather limited take up for this technology, the more responses the better. As well as making use of the survey responses for my dissertation, I hope to disseminate the findings more widely in due course. -- Miles Berry Deputy Head St Ives School Haslemere www.stiveshaslemere.com

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cups runneth over
by Paul Taylor 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Hi: Does anyone have a working fix for the latest cups problem in 9.2? I have read and tried a few fixes on various sites, including SuSE but it still doesn't work. As far as I understand, another daemon (possibly nfs but possibly something else) is grabbing port 631 before cups can get it for it's server and therefore you get "Child process exited with code 98!" Fortunately the machine is dual boot with Fedore C3 so I can continue with my work but I would rather be in 9.2 as hours of fiddling have made it my preferred disrto (for now). Any help much appreciated and apologies in advance if this is too vague. Paul -- De omnibus dubitandum

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Schoolforge Open Letter
by Richard Rothwell 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

Hi, The following is the text of an open letter published by Schoolforge UK. I felt it might be of interest to you, so have forwarded it to you. It is also available on-line at: http://www.schoolforge.org.uk If you would like to attend or be kept informed please let me know. regards, Richard Rothwell Chair Schoolforge UK ------ Open Letter Schoolforge UK is an organisation that works towards the wide spread adoption of Free, Libre and Open Source solutions for Schools and Colleges (FLOSS) in the UK. Over the past two years we have worked with our partners to support this aim. We are now at the threshold of a much wider use of FLOSS in schools in this country and believe that Schoolforge offers an excellent means to ensure that this opportunity is neither squandered nor mis-directed. Current projects indicate that there is excellent return on investment on the use of FLOSS in schools. In general, tenders using FLOSS technology are around 30% cheaper than proprietary offerings. The time to use this as a method of extracting discounts from these expensive solutions is past. If we bring together the skills and knowledge of those working on these solutions we will be able to present a viable and vibrant set of solutions. With our partners we are proposing to meet to discuss areas of shared belief and common interest. We would like to invite all like minded individuals, organisations and businesses to send representatives to this meeting, which we plan to hold in Coventry on the 24th of February. The key objectives of this meeting will be to: * make a clear and public statement that recognises the practicality of an all Free and Open Source desktop and server solution in schools * identify areas of common benefit where effort should be exerted to support its more wide-spread adoption * decide the direction and structure that Schoolforge should adopt to support these aims We believe that commercial gain and community benefit, through Free and Open Solutions, are not mutually exclusive. The needs of the schools and educational sector will only be well met by a vibrant, diverse and prospering hardware and software market. The best way to open up this market to competition is through co-operation and the sharing of ideas and practice. We hope that you can share our vision by joining Schoolforge and attending or sending a representative to this meeting. Signed: Schoolforge UK * AFFS * CoroNet Information Systems * The Cutter Project * Fervent Software * Hypercube * Ingots * The Learning Machine * Linspire * Linux Consultants * Luminas * Novell * Open-S * OpenAdvantage * OpenOffice.org * Openscape * RedHat * Schoolinux * Sun * UKUUG The meeting will be held at Sun's Headquarters in Coventry, on the 24th February. It will start at 10 am and finish with lunch at 1pm. The agenda will be circulated a week before the meeting. Please register your interest by sending an email to conference(a)schoolforge.org.uk ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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