November 2004

Pam_mount on SuSe 9.1
by Rob Keeling 06 May '05

06 May '05

I am trying to install SuSE 9.1 as a workstation in a NT 4 Domain network. The default suse 9.1 install installed winbind etc, and configured them allowing me to log on to ssh with a NT username and password. I now want to configure pam_mount to mount a subdirectory of the unix home directory as the NT home directory. I had configured this on an old SuSE 8.1 box, so I think /etc/pam_mount.conf should be OK. However, having added auth and session lines for pam_mount into /etc/pam.d/sshd I … [View More]

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SLES 9.0 Installation, Kernel Panic Out Of Memory.
by mmarseglia 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Hi folks, I just downloaded SLES 9.0 and went to install it on a Compaq Proliant, Pentium Pro, 384MB RAM Server and got the following message: Kernel Panic: out of memory and no killable processes. Is there a way around this? I've tried the "Safe" installation and "text mode" with no effect. Thanks!

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New Clothes
by adrian.wells 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Hi to all of those running RM out there, can I pick your brains please? I'm about to have 20 PC's surplus as we update hardware before being forced down the CC3 route. Eventually I'll have 60+ PC's that will be redundant. I want to give these machines a new lease of life by installing LINUX and placing them in study rooms, an internet cafe and other 'like' areas. Initially running only open office, FireFox, and Thunderbird. I will probably use the same active equipment, IP range and domain … [View More]

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Questionnaire design and implementation
by Miles Berry 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

Is anyone on this list aware of any open source packages to do questionnaire design and implementation, ideally in a LAMP environment (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP etc), with export of results in a spreadsheet? I'm aware that it's not too bad to code something like this by hand, but finding the time to do that is another matter! I'm looking for something like http://www.surveymonkey.com/ that we could run on our own server. Thanks in anticipation, -- Miles Berry Deputy Head St Ives School … [View More]

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Clothes
by G.Harris 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

> > > --- "adrian.wells" <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> > > wrote: > > > Hi to all of those running RM out there, can I pick > > > your brains please? > > > > Hi Aidrian, > > > > Have a look at: > > > > http://www.openhgs.org/moin.cgi/LinuxProject > > http://www.ltsp.org > > http://www.ltsp.org/articles/ThinClient.pdf > > http://www.schoolforge.org.uk > > Anyone who has not already looked at … [View More]these would do well to invest a few > minutes - very interesting, thanks. > I'm not convinced that thin client is the way I want to go, and still not > convinced that most of it's supposed virtues are revenant today. I know > that > the article says that it's a personal view, but some of the arguments > were > pretty thin (sorry no pun intended!). Maybe I should read it again. > > I've not been to schoolforge for a long time and I have to say, playing > devils advocate, the left hand column could have so many more entries and > the right hand column could hardly be more sparse, even with the wine > entries! Although the software listed is very strong, it's hardly an > advert > for shedding windows! :-( > > It would seem that big, generic apps are not the problem as most > 'business' > type software tends to have a gnu/linux equivilent. The big problem are > these ex teachers sitting in the middle of dartmoor, knocking out pc > versions of their BBC micro software for Sup Ed and the like. I'm sure > that > these will not be given up easily by the departments that know and love > them! I would also imagine that they would be unlikly to give up the > income > and move to open source nor invest the time to become multi platform. We use a mix of Thin clients and PCs. With the right setup this balance has provided us with a very efficient system, BUT we use Citrix over Unix and Linux (and for music and video over XP) to deliver a Windoze desktop which is nicely locked down and which our non-techie staff can relate to. Keeps training down as well. We also have OOo in use as well and we give it to students to use at home. We are otherwise looking for web based software either online or on CD / DVD to avoid the excessive over-protection applied to some stuff of limited value. We have some excellent online text books in use and we have developed our Intranet to fill the gaps. Setting up templates with Dreamweaver and then providing Contribute to departments has provided a big surge in interest and skill. Open source is mostly under the skin otherwise but keeps costs down. All the best. George Harris -- If this e-mail contains anything that the recipient takes exception to, please contact: The Headteacher, Maidenhill School GL10 2HA UK (+44) (0) 1453 822469 [View Less]

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Clothes
by adrian.wells 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

> --- "adrian.wells" <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> > wrote: > > Hi to all of those running RM out there, can I pick > > your brains please? > > Hi Aidrian, > > Have a look at: > > http://www.openhgs.org/moin.cgi/LinuxProject > http://www.ltsp.org > http://www.ltsp.org/articles/ThinClient.pdf > http://www.schoolforge.org.uk Anyone who has not already looked at these would do well to invest a few minutes - very interesting, thanks. I'm not … [View More]

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Clothes
by adrian.wells 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

How do you deal with applying patches and updates across the network? Is there a built in mechanism for this ? I'm not sure that running the online update is a good idea/practicable. Adrian

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Clothes
by adrian.wells 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

> > Hi to all of those running RM out there, can I pick your brains please? > Well one of my schools is running RM, but TBH with RM I'd say it'd be crawling :) I have no idea what you mean! :-) > > I intend to attempt to have these machines locked down until they squeak as > > they will be in no-go zones. My question is, if anyone uses LINUX w/s in > > this form, do they authenticate against the RM servers and if so are there > > any issues with this? (I … [View More]authenticate against a WIN2000 box at home, but > > this is a 'safe' environment and we don't really hot-desk!) And, assuming > > that you do, do you allow access to the "mywork" areas? > > Having it authenticate against the NT4 servers isnt a problem, I've a half written howto around here somewhere that I can let you have on using winbind. Mounting the users home dirs might well be a bit trickier, to mount a smb share you need the absolute path. It might be better to install an NFS server on the NT4 boxes and share out the directories that way. ***sorry crappy OE :-( I'd be interested in seeing that if you can find it. > Another alternative, given that files will need to be written by the clients to the shares, is to redirect all homes to the local /tmp, and then have a script that mounts the users /home (mywork) after the session has started. Since the w/s will be 'out of sight' then I susspect that most of the time will be spent at mini-clips et all (hello ACLs & Delay Pools!) So I may just have users email work to their RM addresses. and authenticate against a linux box. > > How do you implement remote w/s builds across the network? I'd considered a > > duel partition and 'ghosting' across but most of these w/s only have 4GB > > HDDs. We try not to have CD-ROMs on any PC's as it's just another item to > > replace every term! > > > > This one is tricky, we use G4U at Trinity for our dual boot 98/Linux clients and go around with floppies. We tried Altiris, but couldnt get it to work (and you wont get any support from the company), Zen looks like it'll be an option, as might LSLSA, but the latter currently needs a caching network FS. We're researching this at the moment. Floppies will not be a problem, obviously RM uses that, and I'd implimented similar on a Novell/3.11 network - saved me days of building! > > If it's a success and easy to administer, then I'd like to be able to move > > away from the CC3 route altogether. > > Well the CC3 route leads to iirc 15 min boot times, no real control over your network and no real improvement over what Xp + some kind of LDAP already can provide with a little work, all it does is package it all together. ***RM get upset when you mention the logon times :-) Kind regards Adrian [View Less]

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] New Clothes
by Richard Rothwell 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

--- "adrian.wells" <adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk> wrote: > Hi to all of those running RM out there, can I pick > your brains please? Hi Aidrian, Have a look at: http://www.openhgs.org/moin.cgi/LinuxProject http://www.ltsp.org http://www.ltsp.org/articles/ThinClient.pdf http://www.schoolforge.org.uk If anyone wants a look or chat about this please contact me. ===== rgds, Richard Rothwell -------------------------------------------------------------------- rind (n) acronym for '… [View More]

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IBM join OASIS technical committee
by Ian Lynch 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

Another step towards breaking the M$ document monopoly. http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/webmink/20041115 -- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch(a)zmsl.com> ZMS Ltd

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I've lost it!
by Adrian Wells 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

V9.0 Can anyone help please? I've lost everything on the tool-bar on a clients machine apart from the quick start icons! I was adjusting the behaviour, number of desktops etc. to be the same as my home machine to ease talking the client through tasks. That was fine. I then restarted the machine because I wanted to check the BIOS (made no changes) and when it came back up, the clock, mixer, desktop selection etc had all gone apart from the left-hand Icons for the menu, Konsole etc! The extra … [View More]

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While I think about it
by Adrian Wells 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

V9.0 Old hat now but... Does anyone else see this behaviour? When using the 'Control Centre' to install/remove software, the search field rarely becomes active (unable to make it have focus) unless I first select 'Check Dependencies', this is more likely to be the case on slower machines. Also... Is there a fix (or maybe a reason) for not being able to immediately re-select a module in the 'Control Centre'? I find it very irritating having selected an option and then having to select another … [View More]

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Questionnaire design and implementation
by Chris Puttick 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Hi This is somewhat more than you've asked for, but does satisfy your criteria, but have you looked at Moodle? http://moodle.org Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: Miles Berry [mailto:mberry@st-ives.surrey.sch.uk] Sent: Sat 11/13/2004 7:52 AM To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Cc: Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Questionnaire design and implementation Is anyone on this list aware of any open source packages to do questionnaire design and implementation, ideally in a LAMP … [View More]

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Suse 9.2 questions
by paul sutton 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

Hi Just got suse 9.2, looks very impressive, and updated from 9.1 great. I have a few problems 1. On the login screen its saying suse 9.0 !!! (which seems odd really), however I can put up with this. 2. Once logged in, i get a dialog box up with desktop error, Could not start process, unable to create io slave Klauncher said : unknown protocol devices. What can i do to stop this?, or what could be causing the error?, I have tried to run klauncher and it said it's only called by … [View More]

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Suse 9,2
by Paul Sutton 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Hi I have just received suse 9.2 update. The new cd case looks very nice and the manual is nice and detailed. I am about to upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2, As I have 3d nvidia support working are there any issues I may come across. Or should the current settings just move over, from 9.1 (xfree86) to 9.2 (x.org) I will back up anyway, Paul Sutton

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Posters for classroom walls
by linuxgirlie 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

ok, I give up trying to send sample, posters, I sent the set and it said no more than 512mb so I sent one at 300kb and it it like that either, so if anyone is interested in them just email me and I'll send them to you. Jo

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Posters for classroom walls
by Phil Driscoll 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

This message was recently posted to my local LUG mailing list: > After seeing the walls of my sister's ICT lab in her school in Harrogate I > feel compelled to try and gather some good OSS/Linux posters to in some way > dilute all the microsoft posters. I'm especially interested in getting a > good Linux poster to go next to the microsoft anti-piracy one. Not one of > the microsoft posters give a positive message about computers. They're all > "Keep Patched",… [View More]

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quick rpm question
by Paul Taylor 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

I am looking in my trusty linux in a nutshell and see that typing --root with an rpm file will presumably install in a specified directory? I want to upgrade some rpm files on a managed server and need it to happen in the virtual directory rather than the server's root. Can anyone tell me yeah or neah? Paul -- De omnibus dubitandum

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM CC3 NETWORK
by Grainge, Derek 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

CC3 is Campus Connect - RM's version of Microsoft networking, as modified by them. It includes things like building menus into the network card boot prom, or modifying the boot version of windows on the local drive so you get menus appearing before login; and access to software is menu controlled. Given it's all MS-related it's not surprising to see IIS popping up.... -----Original Message----- From: Paul Sutton [mailto:zen14920@zen.co.uk] Sent: 05 November 2004 19:27 To: suse schools … [View More]

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RM CC3 NETWORK
by Paul Sutton 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

Hi Just seen a job advertised for an ICT network technician, one of the requirements is a knowledge of RM CC3, could someone please fill me in on what this is, I did go a google search, and did not really find very useful information. Found a few links to close combat 3, (much better methinks) lol. I have also found references to crocodile clips 3, which is even less useful, I think it stands for community connect 3. It seems as part of this it uses IIS for web services, (yuk) which I … [View More]

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INGOT update
by Ian Lynch 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

Hope its ok to post some updates on the INGOT programme. I was in Serbia/Montenegro last week setting up an INGOT Academy at the Belgrade Linux Centre. They have contacts with other former Soviet Union countries that are supported by the Open Society Institute funded by George Soros. We hope to get them to fund a meeting/conference where we can train assessors to set up INGOT Academies in many other Eastern European countries so we will be truly International. I also have someone in a college … [View More]

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM CC3 NETWORK
by Matt Johnson 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

--- paul sutton <zen14920(a)zen.co.uk> wrote: > Is this a primary or secondary school environment, > are linux work > stations suitable for a > primary environment? Yes, it's a primary environment. And yes... linux is very suitable for defined roles. There are gaps that arguably require things to run on Windows (because the software only runs on Windows - and I don't have time to get wine running reliably). We use our new linux workstations for research (hence these … [View More]

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] RM CC3 NETWORK
by Grainge, Derek 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

RM aim their systems at schools who want a 'managed' solution. i.e. the school doesn't want to install kit itself, isn't sure it has the expertise, so they listen to the RM blurb. This is fine if you're a relatively small school, with limited IT ambitions. But many schools outgrow RM - if you want to install 'just any old package' or you want to add servers which RM regard as non-standard you are pretty much on your own. i.e. do it the RM way or not at all. There can also be issues … [View More]

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Gigabit ethernet
by Miles Berry 01 Nov '04

01 Nov '04

We're about to migrate to a new server after four years of (almost) uninterrupted service on our old box. I feel quite sad about this somehow. Can anyone recommend gigabit ethernet cards that they've found will work out of the box with SuSE 9.1? If not, what have you got working and what did you have to do? Thanks in anticipation,

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