February 2002 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Meeting yesterday and welcome to new members of the list
by Philip Hands 07 Jul '03

07 Jul '03

Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> writes: > I've just subscribed various people to the list - please post a > message to say hello and introduce yourselves. Hi, If you were at the meeting, I was wearing a Debian t-shirt (with a red swirl logo on it) --- there's a photo at the top of this article, where I'm wearing similar stuff (except for the penguin ;-) http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/articles/issue6/lu6-Editorial-A_patently_bad_ide… I'm a Debian GNU/Linux developer, and run the UK Debian mirror, and am responsible for producing the Debian official CD images: http://www.uk.debian.org/ http://cdimage.debian.org/ I have only a peripheral interest in educational matters, in that I've been frustrated in the past in my efforts to provide free computers (which were otherwise destined for a skip), but I can certainly contribute on a technical side, and having been involved in Debian (which is completely voluntary, like OSIE is expected to be) since 1996 I may be able to make some suggestions about how to ``organise'' such a thing. For those of you who've not come across Debian before, we're a world-wide voluntary organisation (read, chaotic jumble of mailing lists) that puts together a Linux distribution (and soon a HURD distribution) and gives it away. Debian doesn't pay people to do this, and doesn't sell what it produces, and in most legal senses doesn't really exist (i.e. the machines in the mirror network mostly belong to people like me, rather than to Debian, and the bandwidth is donated rather than paid for). This probably gives a pretty good feel for what Debian is all about: http://www.uk.debian.org/social_contract which you will notice leads into the The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG), which is where the Open Source Definition came from. My internet machine, that hosts the Debian UK mirror, may be of use to OSIE, since it has about 30GB of spare disk, and a 20Mbit/s connection at a well connected ISP. This machine could act as either a primary host or mirror site for the web site, and could do DNS secondarying etc. as well. Something I'd be interested in working on (although perhaps a SuSE list is not the right place to spend too much time discussing this ;-) would be producing Debian CD images, tuned to the needs of educational users. Debian has accumulated some funds in the UK, and have been looking for a worthwhile cause to spend them on (we never really need to pay for anything that actually makes Debian work, so don't have much use for money), so we could probably afford to have a few thousand CDs pressed, and send them out to schools that are interested. Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ Philip Hands. +44 (0)20 7744 6244 philip.hands(a)uk.alcove.com Alcove UK --- Liberating Software --- http://www.alcove.com/ http://www.hands.com/ phil(a)hands.com http://www.uk.debian.org/

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RE NHS Meeting - Bill and Tony
by Alan Harris 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hi all thought this might be of interest to some of you :- <my email> > Subject: Microsoft and the British Government - Possible Anti-Competitive Behaviour > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:04:20 +0100 > From: alanh(a)bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch.uk > To: Erkki.Liikanen(a)cec.eu.int > > Hi, > > I write regarding the current negotiations between the British > Government and Microsoft in which, to date, Microsoft have been awarded > a contract to supply the National Health Service with some 60 Million > (£)'s worth of software licenses. > > I would be grateful if you could inform me of the current state of the > anti-competition investigation being undertaken by the EU against > Microsoft, as it appears that more such deals (like that for the NHS) > are in the pipeline. As the commisioner with responsibility for the > Information Society I am sure that you are well aware of the potential > for damage being created by such actions. > > Many Thanks > > Alan </my email> <commisioners response> > Subject: RE: Microsoft and the British Government - Possible Anti-Competit ive Behaviour > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:08:31 +0100 > From: Erkki.Liikanen(a)cec.eu.int > To: alanh(a)bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch.uk > CC: Mario.Monti(a)cec.eu.int, Marc.Van-Hoof(a)cec.eu.int, Olli.Rehn(a)cec.eu.int, Per.Haugaard(a)cec.eu.int > > Dear. Mr. Harris, > > I pass your letter to my colleague Mario Monti and his cabinet. He is > responsible for this issue. > But still, during investigation I don't believe much more can be said what > has been in public. > > with best regards > > Erkki Liikanen > > ******************************** > Mr. Erkki Liikanen > Member of the Commission > tel. +32-2-295.79.57 > fax +32-2-295.85.61 > erkki.liikanen(a)cec.eu.int > secretary; kirsi.larjava(a)cec.eu.int > tel. +32-2-295.14.40 > http://europa.eu.int/comm/commissioners/liikanen/index_en.htm > </commissiones response> There may be hope for all of us then? Alan ----------------------------------------------------- Alan Harris Network Manager Bryngwyn School Tel : 01554 750661 Fax : 01554 758255 E-mail: alanh(a)bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch.uk ----------------------------------------------------- Notes: 1. The contents of this email may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown purposes! Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000. 2. The opinions expressed in this email are personal and may not be shared by Bryngwyn School. -----------------------------------------------------

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X based Windows app. server
by Chris Howells 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hi, With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear on the Win32 machine. However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server? Cheers, Chris Howells

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DHCP Problems
by Rob Keeling 27 Feb '02

27 Feb '02

I am trying to use DHCP to configure the the IP addresses of a number of SuSE 7.3 boxes, The DHCP server is running NT 4 SP6a, and is working perfectly with MS clients, however SuSE will only initalise the network if I manually set the ip address etc. The linux DHCPclient seems to just hang, rather than obtaining a lease. Anyone any idea whats wrong/what to look for? Thanks Rob Keeling Network Manager Queen Elizabeth`s Grammar School Ashbourne

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PCMCIA LAN problems
by Matt Williams 26 Feb '02

26 Feb '02

Evening all I'm trying to get my pcmcia lan card working in my vaio laptop. The card is a 3 com and is supported by suse 7.3. When I boot with the card in the pcmcia services start ok (two high beeps) and the boot continues onto the last item, but when it tries to start X the screen stays blank. If I remove the card at this stage the system carries on and boots into X. If I login and insert the card and try to ping my local network I get destination unreachable. I can start and stop rcpcmcia successfully but if I try ifconfig eth0 down up the machine locks. If I boot without the card in and login as a user the same thing happens. However, if I boot without the card, login as root and insert the card the network, the card works straight away (without having to restart rcpcmcia etc..) I can then logout and log back in as a user and all is well. TIA matt ------------------------------------------------------- -- m:

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Debian mass installation
by Chris Howells 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Somebody posted here a link to a web site with a program that allowed mass installation of a Debian system. I can't find that link now, does anybody know what it's called/what the link is? - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris(a)chrishowells.co.uk, howells(a)kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8dosUF8Iu1zN5WiwRAi4vAJ9Gx6/Gk1UdrBTTsnGcRqVT7tG5jQCfcz5N wlcZXf19CdaxoqAvpFxAiao= =9cj6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Debian mass installation
by Simon Wood 25 Feb '02

25 Feb '02

It's also probably worth setting up a machine as a '.deb' cache, so that you only need to download the updated packages once - rather than for each machine... see: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#lan-install Good Luck, Simon Wood

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VPN pointers needed
by Rob Keeling 24 Feb '02

24 Feb '02

Help! I am trying to find some way of configuring VPN on our school system, we have a number of laptops running NT4 workstation, each with internet access via freeserve or similar. The school has a 2mb Broadband connection provided by EMBC, which I know is NAT translated, I have some external (internet) IP addresses which are mapped by EMBC to our internal IP addresses, so our gateway machine has an external address of 10.4.172.250 but is accessible by a real ip address on the internet and has an external DNS entry. I have (tried) reading the VPN howto etc but have got lost in what will do what! what I need to find out is :- What do I need to install on a gateway machine, currently running freesco, but looking at Ipcop at the moment. What do I have to do at the client end (the simpler the better....) Which ports do I need to ask EMBC to open on their firewall for all this to work! Thanks, I know this is a lot to ask! Rob Keeling Network Manager Queen Elizabeth`s Grammar School Ashbourne

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StarOffice
by Malcolm Herbert 24 Feb '02

24 Feb '02

you may be aware that StarOffice 6.0 final release is due very soon and that it will have an educational license cost. Details from the NAACE conference this week.- - £50 per primary, £150 per secondary, for two sets of CD.s - covers staff and student home use - telephone support Learning Pathways are the distributors/resellers/support for Sun in the schools market and state that this cost will help them develop training and support for schools. if you want to contact them, http://www.learnpath.com interested in your reaction Malc -- -------------------------------------- Malcolm Herbert Red Hat Europe t: +44 1483 734955 m: +44 7720 079845 --------------------------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] 2k linux dual boot HELP!!!
by Matt Williams 24 Feb '02

24 Feb '02

On Sunday 24 February 2002 18:59, Dan Kolb wrote: > On Sunday 24 Feb 2002 18:43 pm, Matt Williams wrote: > [snip] > > Have you checked the partition types? It's possible that your ex-FAT > partition is still marked as being a DOS/Windows partition in the partition > table. > To check: go into Linux as root, and type "fdisk /dev/hda". > Type 'p' to show the partition types, and note what's written by the > 'System' column - the Linux one should be ID 83 (System: Linux). Chances > are, if Win2k is detecting it, it's marked as some DOS/Windows ID. To > change it, type 't' to change a partition type; then enter the partition > number (which you got from printing it via 'p'), enter "83" to mark it as a > Linux partition (so Windows won't recognise it as drive D:) Here's the output of p: Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1467 cylinders Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1045 8393931 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 1046 1467 3389715 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 1046 1062 136521 82 Linux Swap /dev/hda6 1063 1467 3253131 83 Linux I'm guessing that it's something to do with hda2 yes? It won't let me change it unless I delete it (as you probably know). If it is this can I get rids of it without killing the rest of the linux install? Cheers m: -------------------------------------------------------

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