July 2001 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Licensing Costs.....
by Malcolm Herbert 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

hi all i've been asked by a journolists to come up with some atypical licensing costs for schools, to look at just the upfront savings of going open source. i've already got figures based around 3-year managed services (cheapest NGfL 950 per seat/per annum), Red Hat / LTSP new kit £500 per seat / per annum), but like to break them down. I' of course aware that the licensing model had changed, but any indicative figures on a per workstation/per server/school basis would be really useful. Malcolm -- ------------------------------------ Malcolm Herbert Red Hat Europe t:+44 1483 734955 m:+44 7720 079845 ------------------------------------

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Drive designation
by adrian.wells 27 Jul '01

27 Jul '01

I have noticed that on a scsi system (one HDD + IDE DVD) with a USB ZIP drive connected, the HDD is set to sdb rather than sda! The ZIP was set to sba4 - no other sba's seen. I was surprised that the device was seen as a scsi device (sd?) and that it had priority over the fixed disks. I haven't used USB on LINUX before. Apart from obviously disconnecting the ZIP, is it possible to override the drive designations during installation? Adrian

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Journalist
by Roger Whittaker 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

First - sorry I've been rather 'inactive' on the list : I've been very busy with non-educational stuff - consulting work (actually very educational, so there you go). I have another query from a journalist who's interested in talking to people about how they are using Linux in schools - if you're interested in being interviewed / quoted, please get in touch off the list and I'll put you in touch with him. -- ------------------- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ------------------ 020 8387 1482 ------------------ roger(a)suse.co.uk ------------------

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] PHP4
by Coulton,G 26 Jul '01

26 Jul '01

Errrr, Why not let the kids play out and enjoy life at that age? LOL > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Stainburn [mailto:gary.stainburn@ringways.co.uk] > Sent: 26 July 2001 12:02 > To: Colin McQueen; suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] PHP4 > > > Hi all, here's my 2 euros (cough, cough, !!1 sorry - wash my > mouth out) > > As this thread's started off talking about PHP, how's that > for a starter. > It'll create some interest with them straight away as the can > create web > sites which is cool with kids these days. Then move them to > perl, which is > (and I know Phil will disagree with me here) a proper > programming language. > > In a lot of ways it's very similar to PHP so moving from one > to the other > should not vex them too much, but perl is a programming > language in the true > sense. > > Gary > > On Thursday 26 July 2001 11:47 am, Colin McQueen wrote: > > <d0ffb29f4a.cmcqueen(a)cmcqueen.ntlworld.com> > <01072518141706.01302@linux> > > In-Reply-To: <01072518141706.01302@linux> X-Organization: > The McQueen > > Family User-Agent: Messenger-Pro/2.10 (MsgServe/1.10) (RISC-OS/4.02) > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > User-Agent: POPstar/2.02 > > > > In message <01072518141706.01302@linux> > > > > Phil Driscoll <phil(a)dialsolutions.co.uk> wrote: > > > On Wednesday 25 July 2001 17:54, Colin McQueen wrote: > > > > Yes well ... I'd love to have the time but my kids are > expecting to see > > > > Dad this summer ;-) > > > > > > Are they old enough to code :) > > > > 'fraid not though the two oldest have done quite a bit with the lego > > mindstorms stuff. They are 8 and 10. The closest they com > to Linux is > > running a few of the games and they've used Star office if > Dad has left > > the dual boot PC in SUSE. They have very little problem tranferring > > their skills between Windows/RISC OS/Linux > > > > Maybe I should start them with something. What would you recommend? > > I'd go for BBC BASIC V simply because I use it a lot but I realise > > that's limiting them. I have trouble converting to C and > Java probably > > because of my BASIC upbringing. > > -- > Gary Stainburn > > This email does not contain private or confidential material as it > may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown > and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers > Act, 2000 > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com >

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Samba break dancing
by ptaylor 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

Hi all: I know that Chris Dawkins (et al?) will say, "if it aint broke, don't fix it", or words to that effect, but... I had a nice relationship, if such a thing can be, between SuSE 7.1 and Win 2000. I have the Linux box upstairs as a server with an HP 670 DeskJet attached and used to happily send files to it to print from the Win 2000 machine downstairs. I am still lumbered with a windoze set up at school for now so need this set up. This was working well until I dutifully up-graded to 7.2. I loaded up Samba 2.2 and other "improvements" and since then I have not been able to get my printer to work. W2K sees it but refuses to load drivers for it. It is fine sending files to the SuSE box etc. I saw one how to that said I need a PRINT$ directory in smb.conf with a "sub-directory pointing to x86 files" but after following it dutifully, I was still no closer. I have used combinations of 2.0.9, 7.1 SuSE ad nauseum but still no joy. Can anyone point me in the right direction to solving this one?? Paul Extra details gladly submitted on demand.

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Very Dumb Question
by Marcus Birkin 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

Ok, this is going to sound _very_ silly, but: I wish to run Kaspersky Anti-virus on my Linux box, but they only seem todo a i386 binary version, now the stupid question, how can I run this on my PPC box?? Thanks for any suggestions Marcus Birkin (Assistant Technician and Mail Administrator) - Arts In Education Centre College St

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] authentication
by Simon Wood 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Driscoll [SMTP:phil@dialsolutions.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:37 AM > To: Simon Wood; suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] authentication > > Whilst M$ is currently in charge, it will be out on it's ear (at least on the > server front) as soon as I've worked out this authentication thing! [Simon Wood] big smiles all around..... The how-to you want is: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/ As I said, I did get it working but only on a small scale, but this was on SuSE so it is possible. I don't have it installed now (we only have two user accounts at home, an I don't let Krisztina onto some of the machines ;-) ).

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] authentication
by Simon Wood 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Driscoll [SMTP:phil@dialsolutions.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:03 AM > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] authentication > > You'll have noticed that I don't like to let a day pass without giving you > people something to work out :) Here's today's issue. [Simon Wood] Beats working... ;-) > I've already set up one of my own machines as a PDC using SAMBA and my NT > machine is very happy to mount the shares etc, so I am happy on that score. > However, I haven't got the first idea how to set up a linux client machine to > login via a server. I certainly don't want to have to setup all the user > accounts on all the client machines, however the machines will need to retain > local logon functionality for when they are used away from the school > network, and also in the event of a failure in the network or server. [Simon Wood] I was mucking around at home and approached this from the opposite direction.... I set up 'yellow pages' so that other Linux boxes could use a central user/password server and then configured Samba to refer to that. Depending on you level of commitment to using M$ as the system authenticator, you might be able to do it this way round. Haven't tried it with M$ in charge....

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authentication
by Phil Driscoll 25 Jul '01

25 Jul '01

You'll have noticed that I don't like to let a day pass without giving you people something to work out :) Here's today's issue. We will be setting up a linux box with samba to effectively act as primary domain controller for all the school's NT workstation machines and dole out profiles policies and home directories. Ideally, the same machine would handle logins and home directories for the 123 linux boxes we will be deploying over the summer holidays. I've already set up one of my own machines as a PDC using SAMBA and my NT machine is very happy to mount the shares etc, so I am happy on that score. However, I haven't got the first idea how to set up a linux client machine to login via a server. I certainly don't want to have to setup all the user accounts on all the client machines, however the machines will need to retain local logon functionality for when they are used away from the school network, and also in the event of a failure in the network or server. I'm sure if someone points me in the right direction, it will save me hours of searching and reading :) Cheers -- Phil Driscoll

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] A little too pedantic. (was: Acrobat 5 does not read ps2pdf'd files)
by Azrael Angel Of Death 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

>Exactly. What I'm saying is that it would be very difficult for Acrobat >5.0 to >be "improved" such that it choked on non-Adobe-generated files *without* >breaking some genuine Adobe-generated files. As long as your >non-proprietary >PDFs had kept rigorously to the PDF spec' even the most perverse Adobe >programmer would have his work cut out to make Acrobat 5.0 choke on these >and >not on the proprietary ones made at great expense by Adobe customers. Frankly I don't see why anyone uses Adobe's stuff anyway as there are truly free alternatives... > > As other pdf-viewing programs can actually bypass the > > password protection. How would said company respond to their passworded >pdf > > being easily read and edited by third party software? > >Ask this guy: > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/07/18/1136244&mode=thread *nods* Yeah.. I read that article and it is interesting... the DMCA definatly makes things more.. hmm.. interesting... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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