December 2001 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Hi all
by Jonathan Bacon 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Howells [mailto:chrish@gmx.co.uk] > Sent: 03 December 2001 13:25 > To: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Hi all > > > From: Jonathan Bacon <j.bacon(a)delta.wlv.ac.uk> > > > I am fairly new to this list, and I just wanted to introduce myself. > > Hi Jono -- fancy seeing you here ;) Thanks all for the warm welcome. :) > > I been involved with Linux and KDE for a few years, and I > am doing some > > work regarding the usage of Linux in schools, and Roger thought this > > list would be useful. > > May I ask what kind of work? What I'd really love is for > somebody to make > it possible to restrict the things that are possible in KDE > -- for example > so that a school could use it on the desktop without the kids > fiddling with > all the settings. Unfortunatly I am not allowed to say too much about what I am doing, but I am basically looking at how well Linux can be used within the educational sector. One day it should all be revealed (hopefully). > I did notice however something that Waldo put on: > > http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.0-release-plan.html about preventing > users changing the wallpaper, and stuff. Maybe this could be part of kdeedu. It would certainly be handy for us to have methods of restricting access. It would be good to draft up a list of requirements for KDE in which it could be safely used in a school without kids going wild in the Control Center. Luckily due to Linux's permissions, most of the damage can be prevented. :) Cheers, Jono -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris(a)chrishowells.co.uk, howells(a)kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Hi all
by Chris Howells 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

From: Jonathan Bacon <j.bacon(a)delta.wlv.ac.uk> > I am fairly new to this list, and I just wanted to introduce myself. Hi Jono -- fancy seeing you here ;) > I been involved with Linux and KDE for a few years, and I am doing some > work regarding the usage of Linux in schools, and Roger thought this > list would be useful. May I ask what kind of work? What I'd really love is for somebody to make it possible to restrict the things that are possible in KDE -- for example so that a school could use it on the desktop without the kids fiddling with all the settings. I did notice however something that Waldo put on: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.0-release-plan.html about preventing users changing the wallpaper, and stuff. -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris(a)chrishowells.co.uk, howells(a)kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org

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Hi all
by Jonathan Bacon 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

Hi all, I am fairly new to this list, and I just wanted to introduce myself. I been involved with Linux and KDE for a few years, and I am doing some work regarding the usage of Linux in schools, and Roger thought this list would be useful. Cheers, Jono Bacon

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] NHS Meeting, Blair and Gates
by Steve Phillips 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

Steve Phillips MCSE CNASteve phillips Central Technology College Gloucester I agree with you Robb, the whole exercise has become something of a farce. It's a great shame. It could have been a great opportunity for the community and the OS to grow but I've had it as well. Regards Steve

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Monopolies and the competition commission
by Ian 02 Dec '01

02 Dec '01

At the site below there are details of what constitutes a monopoly. http://www.competition-commission.org.uk/inquiries/mono.htm Broadly speaking, the Act provides for two different kinds of monopoly situations: scale - when an individual or a single company, or companies within the same group, accounts for at least 25 per cent of the supply or acquisition of particular goods or services; and complex - when individuals or companies, which together account for at least 25 per cent of the supply or acquisition of particular goods or services, follow a course of conduct, by agreement or not, that prevents, restricts or distorts competition. Microsoft definitely fall into the category of scale with both Windows and Office. Therefore we might be better targeting this than the specific case of the NHS. The OFT gets the competition commission to investigate and it will not do it on the specific NHS-MS deal because of a technicality. However, if all the Open Source companies contacted the OFT and claimed that the MS monopoly on operating systems was damaging their business on the grounds that MS was engaged in anti-competitive practices and fixing prices well above market rates for similar technologies they will have to at least investigate. E-mail Darren.Eade(a)oft.gsi.gov.uk making it clear that the complaint is about MS's monopoly as defined by section 6 an 7 of the Fair Trading Act. Give an example of where you have lost out in the supply of a computer system, for example, because a customer, while complaining that the MS product was over-priced and inferior, thought they had to buy it for reasons of compatibility. Customers could also complain that while they would like to use alternative systems, the MS monopoly effectively prevents it (Just choose a reason, there are many). Copy this E-Mail to any lists, news groups etc that you think might alert more people to mail as the more complaints that are made, the more likely an investigation. Regards, -- IanL

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NHS Meeting, Blair and Gates
by Malcolm Herbert 01 Dec '01

01 Dec '01

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23096.html A £70m deal gets you a personal apperance from the anti-christ. Antitrust now available on video in the UK A £10 deal gets you me :-) Malc -- ------------------------------------------- Malcolm Herbert Red Hat Europe t: +44 1483 734955 m: +44 7720 079 845 -------------------------------------------

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