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Re: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by sean-lynch＠sean-lynch.com 21 Sep '04

21 Sep '04

Örn, Im not the original on this thread, But I too have been unable to get my Internet connection to work under SuSE 9.1 on my AMD 64 box. My first guess would be that the original poster has a winmodem and needs to install drivers specific to the winmodem. However, I do know that an issue does exist with SuSE 9.1 and perfectly good controller based modems. My modem is a pci modem from Actiontec. This is a controller based modem, not a winmodem This modem works fine under Gentoo , debian, and Win XP on the same machine for all uses. Please note that I said my internet connection does not work under SuSE. The actiontec pci modem is recognized and set up correctly under Yast. I can use the modem with minicom with no problems. However, the normal Yast set up connection and the Kinternet front end fail to establish a ppp connection with my isp. I had opened a ticket with SuSE when I first installed 9.1, but my support time has long since past. Both SuSE and I have failed to solve the problem directly. I play with things like the acpi setting and lcp-max configure settings every now and then, but I have not yet found the conflict. Everything works well in other distros, and I have configured a script to work from minicom to log me in to my isp and negotiate a connection using expect for when I use SuSE. I have tried an external modem, and it does not show the same errors, but I need my serial ports for other devices. Since I have a script working, I am not in desperate need of a solution. If I ever figure it out I will e-mail SuSE with my original help ticket number and let them know what I find. Séan On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:44:47 +0200, Örn Hansen wrote: > > måndag 20 september 2004 11:07 skrev Colin Carter: > > Hi, > > I have been unable to connect to the internet ( had to buy > > another PC for that) > > Duh? That doesn't sound right, somehow ... what is the nature of your > internet connection, and your problem?

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Re: RE: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by me＠prestoncrawford.com 20 Sep '04

20 Sep '04

I suppose in the end my problem could have been memory or something, but I just didn't want to spend the time debugging it. My system wasn't functioning in 64-bit or 32-bit mode. Eventually I went back to the Intel and all is good. I'll wait a couple years to do the 64-bit upgrade. Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: Black, Alain To: 'einar' <einar_linux(a)swissonline.ch> Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:29:20 -0700 Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now I agree with Einar, I too would recommend SuSE's 64-bit Linux. We have been running SLES-8 for some months now on a dual Opteron system with no problems what so ever. Having said that, I did have issues in the beginning with corrupted file systems. My issue turned out to be one of the most basic, my VAR sold me a hardware solution that was not SLES 8 compliant, my RAID array was SATA. SATA support, to my knowledge, didn't appear in SLES until 9. Since the VAR replaced all of the SATA with PATA it has run like a dream. I have a support contract with SuSE, which was used extensively in configuring the machine. The support personnel were excellent to work with, both in their attitude and the knowledge they provided. The responses to my questions were always prompt and provided me with the information that I needed to get through my issues. Because of these reasons I do continue to recommend SuSE's SLES for all of our Linux needs, including Oracle servers. I am getting ready to test upgrading from SLES-8 to SLES-9 for our production environment. -Alain. -----Original Message----- From: einar [mailto:einar_linux@swissonline.ch] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:50 PM Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now Hello, yes, I do recommend SuSE. For 64bit users we are early adopters. Yet, SuSE 9.0 runs stable for me and beside hardware difficulties I had no trouble. The kernel I compiled myself solved the last minor issues about the box not shutting down cleanly. I am very happy. I consider the support provided by Mr. Kleen and Mr. Jaeger in this forum to be very good. Mind you, I am an MSDN subscriber and for this privilege I paid more than 3000 USD and I receive less support... regards, einar Colin Carter wrote: >Hi, >I have the same stresses: >In December I bought the AMD64 and SuSE 9.0 >SuSE wouldn't install and it took three months of very poor >support to discover that there was a problem. >So I lashed out and bought SuSE 9.1 >This version installs, but... >I have been unable to connect to the internet ( had to buy >another PC for that) >And nobody seems to be able to advise me on how to configure >my system so that I can code with X Window or Xt. >It is nearly 11 months of hassle. >Anybody recommend SuSE? >Colin Carter > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now > From: > <me(a)prestoncrawford.com> > Date: > Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:22:18 -0700 > To: > <suse-amd64(a)suse.com> > > To: > <suse-amd64(a)suse.com> > > Return-Path: > <suse-amd64-return-3633-colincarter=onetel.com(a)suse.com> > Received: > from bb-md1.onetel.net.uk (bb-md1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.120.193]) by > mail05.onetel.net.uk (MOS 3.4.6-GR) with ESMTP id BRW30715; Fri, 17 > Sep 2004 23:16:34 +0100 (BST) > Received: > from lists.suse.com (lists.suse.de [195.135.221.131]) by > bb-md1.onetel.net.uk (MOS 3.4.6-GR) with SMTP id BKN08959; Fri, 17 Sep > 2004 23:16:32 +0100 (BST) > Received: > (qmail 6019 invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2004 22:16:19 -0000 > Mailing-List: > contact suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com; run by ezmlm > Precedence: > bulk > List-Post: > <mailto:suse-amd64@suse.com> > List-Help: > <mailto:suse-amd64-help@suse.com> > List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto:suse-amd64-unsubscribe-colincarter=onetel.com@suse.com> > List-Subscribe: > <mailto:suse-amd64-subscribe@suse.com> > X-Mailinglist: > suse-amd64 > X-MIME-Notice: > attachments may have been removed from this message > Delivered-To: > mailing list suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Received: > (qmail 6010 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2004 22:16:19 -0000 > Message-ID: > <8B214DEF3AF247FAB3A45F545F406878.MAI(a)mail.activeserverhosting.com> > X-Mailer: > MailEnable Web Mail 1.1 > MIME-Version: > 1.0 > Content-Type: > multipart/mixed; boundary="--=_NextPart_000_000B_10B1FCFD.EF7F43B2" > X-Read: > 0 > X-Virus-Scanned: > by amavisd-new at scanhost.suse.de > X-Spam-Status: > No, hits=-0.3 tagged_above=-20.0 required=5.0 > tests=MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, MY_LINUX, NO_REAL_NAME > > >(Also posted to the main SuSE list so please excuse the lack of context regarding my previous setup) > >So I went ahead and picked up an Athrlon 64. I"m much happier with it. It's much much quieter. And >just as fast. There's a problem, though. I absolutely can't get 64-bit SuSE installed properly. 3 >times after doing YOU updates my filesystem has been corrupted. About a dozen times I couldn't even >do updates via YOU for some reason. They'd end in the middle mysteriously, then when I tried to run >YOU again either the packages would still need to be installed or they wouldn't be installed and >wouldn't be on the list. Either way it's been a mess. Worst of all, I rely on slrn as my newsreader >(I've been trying to post to the newsgroup and can't) and it crashes when I try to post. It's a >disaster, in short. I'm not sure if I'm trying to do things outside the norm or if there are >generally problems with the 64-bit versions, but I"m beginning to think it's not worth my trouble >for now. I have the chipset I want. I can upgrade later when these hassles go away. > >FWIW, my motherboard is an MSI K8MM and my CPU is an AMD Athlon 3200+. > >Someone suggested someone here may have some thoughts on what's going wrong. Any ideas given my >setup? > >Preston > > > > -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com

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Re: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by Scott Leighton 20 Sep '04

20 Sep '04

On Friday 17 September 2004 6:27 pm, melissad wrote: > I set the DVD R RW and the CD-RW to root owned, root group but read, > write and execute to world for this kernel release. > > It isn't much of a risk since there is only media in it when I am using > it. > Actually, that wasn't the DVD problem I was referring to. I meant getting mplayer and xine 64 bit versions to play DVD's. I never could find any pre-built rpm's for all the stuff needed, had to compile everything from source and had tons of problems getting all the right 'configure switches' to make it work. I went months after getting my AMD until I finally got it working, it was a very frustrating experience. Lots of googling, lots of posts to groups like this, and lots of trial and error. Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.5-7.108-default x86_64

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RE: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by Black, Alain 20 Sep '04

20 Sep '04

I agree with Einar, I too would recommend SuSE's 64-bit Linux. We have been running SLES-8 for some months now on a dual Opteron system with no problems what so ever. Having said that, I did have issues in the beginning with corrupted file systems. My issue turned out to be one of the most basic, my VAR sold me a hardware solution that was not SLES 8 compliant, my RAID array was SATA. SATA support, to my knowledge, didn't appear in SLES until 9. Since the VAR replaced all of the SATA with PATA it has run like a dream. I have a support contract with SuSE, which was used extensively in configuring the machine. The support personnel were excellent to work with, both in their attitude and the knowledge they provided. The responses to my questions were always prompt and provided me with the information that I needed to get through my issues. Because of these reasons I do continue to recommend SuSE's SLES for all of our Linux needs, including Oracle servers. I am getting ready to test upgrading from SLES-8 to SLES-9 for our production environment. -Alain. -----Original Message----- From: einar [mailto:einar_linux@swissonline.ch] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:50 PM Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now Hello, yes, I do recommend SuSE. For 64bit users we are early adopters. Yet, SuSE 9.0 runs stable for me and beside hardware difficulties I had no trouble. The kernel I compiled myself solved the last minor issues about the box not shutting down cleanly. I am very happy. I consider the support provided by Mr. Kleen and Mr. Jaeger in this forum to be very good. Mind you, I am an MSDN subscriber and for this privilege I paid more than 3000 USD and I receive less support... regards, einar Colin Carter wrote: >Hi, >I have the same stresses: >In December I bought the AMD64 and SuSE 9.0 >SuSE wouldn't install and it took three months of very poor >support to discover that there was a problem. >So I lashed out and bought SuSE 9.1 >This version installs, but... >I have been unable to connect to the internet ( had to buy >another PC for that) >And nobody seems to be able to advise me on how to configure >my system so that I can code with X Window or Xt. >It is nearly 11 months of hassle. >Anybody recommend SuSE? >Colin Carter > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now > From: > <me(a)prestoncrawford.com> > Date: > Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:22:18 -0700 > To: > <suse-amd64(a)suse.com> > > To: > <suse-amd64(a)suse.com> > > Return-Path: > <suse-amd64-return-3633-colincarter=onetel.com(a)suse.com> > Received: > from bb-md1.onetel.net.uk (bb-md1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.120.193]) by > mail05.onetel.net.uk (MOS 3.4.6-GR) with ESMTP id BRW30715; Fri, 17 > Sep 2004 23:16:34 +0100 (BST) > Received: > from lists.suse.com (lists.suse.de [195.135.221.131]) by > bb-md1.onetel.net.uk (MOS 3.4.6-GR) with SMTP id BKN08959; Fri, 17 Sep > 2004 23:16:32 +0100 (BST) > Received: > (qmail 6019 invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2004 22:16:19 -0000 > Mailing-List: > contact suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com; run by ezmlm > Precedence: > bulk > List-Post: > <mailto:suse-amd64@suse.com> > List-Help: > <mailto:suse-amd64-help@suse.com> > List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto:suse-amd64-unsubscribe-colincarter=onetel.com@suse.com> > List-Subscribe: > <mailto:suse-amd64-subscribe@suse.com> > X-Mailinglist: > suse-amd64 > X-MIME-Notice: > attachments may have been removed from this message > Delivered-To: > mailing list suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Received: > (qmail 6010 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2004 22:16:19 -0000 > Message-ID: > <8B214DEF3AF247FAB3A45F545F406878.MAI(a)mail.activeserverhosting.com> > X-Mailer: > MailEnable Web Mail 1.1 > MIME-Version: > 1.0 > Content-Type: > multipart/mixed; boundary="--=_NextPart_000_000B_10B1FCFD.EF7F43B2" > X-Read: > 0 > X-Virus-Scanned: > by amavisd-new at scanhost.suse.de > X-Spam-Status: > No, hits=-0.3 tagged_above=-20.0 required=5.0 > tests=MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, MY_LINUX, NO_REAL_NAME > > >(Also posted to the main SuSE list so please excuse the lack of context regarding my previous setup) > >So I went ahead and picked up an Athrlon 64. I"m much happier with it. It's much much quieter. And >just as fast. There's a problem, though. I absolutely can't get 64-bit SuSE installed properly. 3 >times after doing YOU updates my filesystem has been corrupted. About a dozen times I couldn't even >do updates via YOU for some reason. They'd end in the middle mysteriously, then when I tried to run >YOU again either the packages would still need to be installed or they wouldn't be installed and >wouldn't be on the list. Either way it's been a mess. Worst of all, I rely on slrn as my newsreader >(I've been trying to post to the newsgroup and can't) and it crashes when I try to post. It's a >disaster, in short. I'm not sure if I'm trying to do things outside the norm or if there are >generally problems with the 64-bit versions, but I"m beginning to think it's not worth my trouble >for now. I have the chipset I want. I can upgrade later when these hassles go away. > >FWIW, my motherboard is an MSI K8MM and my CPU is an AMD Athlon 3200+. > >Someone suggested someone here may have some thoughts on what's going wrong. Any ideas given my >setup? > >Preston > > > >

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screen out of sync
by Luis Jose Maia Amoreira 20 Sep '04

20 Sep '04

Hello! I have an Asus L5000 laptop with a nVidia GeForce FX graphics card and things are running reasonably well. However, wen I press [Ctrl][Alt][F1] to escape the X environment into a text-only interface, my screen gets out of sync! Does anybody know of a simple fix to this? Thanks, Ze ______________________________________________________________ Departamento de F�sica http://www.dfisica.ubi.pt Universidade da Beira Interior http://www.ubi.pt ______________________________________________________________

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Re: Re: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by me＠prestoncrawford.com 20 Sep '04

20 Sep '04

I wonder what my problem is, then. I turned SATA off. Is there any particular setting you tweaked in the BIOS? Did you upgrade the BIOS? Did you do anything different? Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Leighton To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:13:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now On Friday 17 September 2004 3:22 pm, me(a)prestoncrawford.com wrote: > > FWIW, my motherboard is an MSI K8MM and my CPU is an AMD Athlon 3200+. > I'm running the same motherboard but with an Athlon 2800+. As another poster mentioned, the only issues I've had are compiling certain packages 64 bit. All the SuSE provided software on the DVD works fine out of the box. Getting DVD stuff to work 64 bit is a royal pain. Certain things flat out aren't available, like a 64 bit flash player. Other than the software issues, I've had no problem at all. Scott -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.5-7.108-default x86_64 -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com

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mount: RPC: Program not registered
by Claus Christian Larsen 19 Sep '04

19 Sep '04

hello- I have a lot of trouble setting up a nfs-client: I want to mount a filesystem on a SME-server with nfs. But whatever i do i get this messages ; mount: RPC: Program not registered I dont understand it our windows can easyly reach the filesystem on the server. When i try to use yast , it cannot find any nfs-server on the lan. The nfs-server exist: [root@hest root]# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100011 1 udp 780 rquotad 100011 2 udp 780 rquotad 100011 1 tcp 784 rquotad 100011 2 tcp 784 rquotad 100005 1 udp 32771 mountd 100005 1 tcp 32769 mountd 100005 2 udp 32771 mountd 100005 2 tcp 32769 mountd 100005 3 udp 32771 mountd 100005 3 tcp 32769 mountd 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100021 1 udp 32772 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 32772 nlockmgr 100021 4 udp 32772 nlockmgr [root@hest root]# rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100011 1 udp 780 rquotad 100011 2 udp 780 rquotad 100011 1 tcp 784 rquotad 100011 2 tcp 784 rquotad 100005 1 udp 32771 mountd 100005 1 tcp 32769 mountd 100005 2 udp 32771 mountd 100005 2 tcp 32769 mountd 100005 3 udp 32771 mountd 100005 3 tcp 32769 mountd 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100021 1 udp 32772 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 32772 nlockmgr 100021 4 udp 32772 nlockmgr mounting this /etc/fstab: 10.0.0.3:/home/e-smith/files/ibays /home/line/NFS-SHARE nfs rw,user,udp 0 0 Gives the messages: Kaldte: mount 10.0.0.3:/home/e-smith/files/ibays mount: RPC: Program not registered My client: linux:/ # rpcinfo -p program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper I am absolutly lost. Regards Claus

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Re: [suse-amd64] How to dual boot X86_64 and X86 on single disk drive ?
by don leslie 18 Sep '04

18 Sep '04

More information on my dual-boot problem. I first installed the 64bit . Since I used the default settings it installed in the MBR. Next I installed the 32bit . This also went into the MBR. After this I could only see the 32 bit install. I used the install/repair to get the 64bit visable at boot. I edited menu.lst and added the 32bit install . image = /boot/vmlinuz ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Linux32### label = Linux32 initrd = /boot/initrd optional root = /dev/hda7 vga = 0x317 append = "splash=silent console=tty0 desktop resume=/dev/hda5 showopts" When I try to boot this the log shows /dev/hda7 but acts as if it is still loading the 64bit. uname shows x86_64 and I get lots of load errors that go along with this. When you install the loader defaults to MBR. There are other choices /dev/hda* . There is no explanation of why or when to use these options. There are also additional selections on saving to MBR and also no real explanation of when to use them. Both installs are really there but I seem to be able to boot only one of them.

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Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by me＠prestoncrawford.com 18 Sep '04

18 Sep '04

(Also posted to the main SuSE list so please excuse the lack of context regarding my previous setup) So I went ahead and picked up an Athrlon 64. I"m much happier with it. It's much much quieter. And just as fast. There's a problem, though. I absolutely can't get 64-bit SuSE installed properly. 3 times after doing YOU updates my filesystem has been corrupted. About a dozen times I couldn't even do updates via YOU for some reason. They'd end in the middle mysteriously, then when I tried to run YOU again either the packages would still need to be installed or they wouldn't be installed and wouldn't be on the list. Either way it's been a mess. Worst of all, I rely on slrn as my newsreader (I've been trying to post to the newsgroup and can't) and it crashes when I try to post. It's a disaster, in short. I'm not sure if I'm trying to do things outside the norm or if there are generally problems with the 64-bit versions, but I"m beginning to think it's not worth my trouble for now. I have the chipset I want. I can upgrade later when these hassles go away. FWIW, my motherboard is an MSI K8MM and my CPU is an AMD Athlon 3200+. Someone suggested someone here may have some thoughts on what's going wrong. Any ideas given my setup? Preston

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Re: Re: [suse-amd64] Re: [SLE] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now
by me＠prestoncrawford.com 18 Sep '04

18 Sep '04

I did install it as standard x86 on my setup and it worked like a dream. It's just the 64-bit I'm having trouble with. Updates, filesystem corruption, etc. Preston ----- Original Message ----- From: Örn_Hansen To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com Sent: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:38:06 +0200 Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Re: [SLE] Giving up on 64-bit Linux for now lördag 18 september 2004 01:04 skrev Sid Boyce: > > I installed 9.0 x86_64 (reiserfs) then upgraded to 9.1 when it came out, > Acer Aspire 1501LCe laptop with XP3000+/512M/Radeon 9600 video/USB stuff > such as webcam, kodak camera DX3600, serial, sound apps like skype etc. > No problems with SuSE except building some packages where it will > happily link with 64-bit libs then go off to the 32-bit libs looking for > a library that is only a 64-bit one. Kernel builds have been fine, > currently running 2.6.9-rc2-mm1 and -bk kernels before that. > Some motherboards are fussy about memory, a good idea would be to test > out using 9,1 x86 and if the problem is still there, then look at the > hardware as a possible source of trouble. I got a new 32-bit Asus > motherboard and XP2600+, both turned out to be bad and caused hangs and > filesystem corruptions. I had a few hangups here, on my system ... first was due to the BIOS, which was solved when I upgraded. Had to do with DMA, which need to be or the system will be significantly slower. Second, I've had a few apparent freezes ... which are mostly the system just locking itself for a few seconds, or longer and than coming back to life. Otherwise, SuSE 9.1 has worked marvelously for me since it came out. My system is an MSI NEO, AMD64 3000+ with 512Mb memory. After reading a bit, I came across that a possible scenario for hangups is the power supply. If it's flaky, it can cause power drop to the cpu which will stop working properly ... something to look out for, if you built your system on an older box, with new Mobo + Cpu. Mvh, Örn > Regards > Sid. > -- > Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer > =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====

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