YaST Development May 2017

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[yast-devel] YaST Tips&Tricks
by Ladislav Slezak 25 Jan '22

25 Jan '22

Hi all, some time ago we discussed where and how we should share "Tips&Tricks" for YaST users and developers. IIRC there was no clear conclusion so I decided to start a wiki [1] to collect all our tricks we know or use. For now it's just a place for dumping your ideas, links, short howtos, etc... When we collect enough data we can probably split it to several categories or move it somewhere else. We just need the data first. I have added there some my tricks from my personal "knowledgebase" file. If you have better tricks or find something wrong simply change it, it's a wiki ;-) Ladislav [1] https://github.com/yast/yast.github.io/wiki/YaST-Tips-and-Tricks -- Ladislav Slezák YaST Developer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. Corso IIa Křižíkova 148/34 18600 Praha 8 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Enable Travis Auto Cancellation Feature?
by Ladislav Slezak 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

Hi, Travis recently enabled a new auto cancellation feature. If you commit a new change Travis can automatically cancel the old builds in the queue. That means you should get the results for the latest change faster. See more details at the Travis blog [1]. To me it looks like a nice feature. The only drawback is that if you really use the strict TDD approach (write a failing test first then create a fix, like I did here [2]) then you would have to wait a bit between pushing the test and the fix. At least until the first build starts. But that is usually not the case is our workflow so it should not be an issue and we could use this feature by default. So any reason why NOT using the auto cancellation feature? Otherwise I'd enable it globally for all Travis jobs... Lada [1] https://blog.travis-ci.com/2017-03-22-introducing-auto-cancellation [2] https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/570 -- Ladislav Slezák YaST Developer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. Corso IIa Křižíkova 148/34 18600 Praha 8 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] HOWTO: Screencast recording
by Ladislav Slezak 22 Jul '17

22 Jul '17

Hi all, Yesterday I published a short blog post about recording a screencast (a desktop session) to create a video or an animated image. So if you want to have nice animated images in READMES [1] or in pull requests [2] then check this post [3]. Enjoy! [1] https://github.com/lslezak/build-rake/blob/master/README.md [2] https://github.com/yast/yast-registration/pull/240 [3] http://lslezak.blogspot.cz/2016/01/recording-screencast-in-linux.html -- Ladislav Slezák Appliance department / YaST Developer Lihovarská 1060/12 190 00 Prague 9 / Czech Republic tel: +420 284 028 960 lslezak(a)suse.com SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Pending Pull Requests
by yast-ci＠opensuse.org 31 May '17

31 May '17

This email is automatic generated from yast CI node. It lists of pull requests that have no activity more then three working days. If your module is listed, please check all pull request, why they are not merged yet. Pending requests in repository yast-add-on: - [WIP] Ask when the added repository is unsigned (bsc#1009127) (112 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-add-on/pull/37 Pending requests in repository yast-bootloader: - Use shared RSpec examples for CWM widgets (71 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-bootloader/pull/414 - don't create grub_installdevice and let perl-Bootloader run grub2-install (56 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-bootloader/pull/413 Pending requests in repository yast-core: - AnyAgent - improved logging to easier find bugs similar to bsc#1030425 (28 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-core/pull/120 Pending requests in repository yast-ldap: - Manipulate system LDAP configuration rather than application LDAP configuration (56 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-ldap/pull/26 Pending requests in repository yast-mail: - [WIP] return back MailTable to yast2-mail module from yast2 module (55 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-mail/pull/25 Pending requests in repository yast-network: - routing/firewall: no longer depend on SuSEfirewall2 for IPv4 forwarding (28 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-network/pull/503 Pending requests in repository yast-packager: - [WIP] Ask when the added repository is unsigned (bsc#1009127) (111 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-packager/pull/230 Pending requests in repository yast-pkg-bindings: - Fix pkgGpgCheck callback crashing when reporting SrcPackages (bsc#1037210) (22 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-pkg-bindings/pull/70 Pending requests in repository yast-security: - [WIP] refactoring autoconverted ruby code into ruby code (48 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-security/pull/40 Pending requests in repository yast-storage: - Propose /boot for encrypted root on PowerPC (55 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-storage/pull/155 Pending requests in repository yast-theme: - Removes "N" from logos to fix bug #953761 (20 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-theme/pull/77 Pending requests in repository yast-update: - use only y2storage classes and methods (8 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-update/pull/74 Pending requests in repository yast-users: - Reduce perl (56 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-users/pull/137 Pending requests in repository yast-vm: - Issue 19 tumbleweed (5 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-vm/pull/20 Pending requests in repository yast-yast2: - [WIP] Drop perl (57 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/540 - [WIP] Support for unsigned repositories (bsc#1009127) (55 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/537 - Do a full type detection when creating cache (57 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/527 ERROR: API query limit exceeded -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] storage-ng and cloud storage
by Josef Reidinger 30 May '17

30 May '17

Hi, yesterday we are discussing a bit plans about merge storage-ng, new partitioner and such stuff into SLE15 and according to Factory first rule also to tumbleweed and it looks like we like to integrate it as early as possible to get some feedback, which is good. On other hand, from user perspective it will look like that we reduce number of working features and do not provide anything new for them, so new storage would be regression for them. So I get idea that it would be great if we can add at least one new "free-cool-in" feature that make sense for SLE and also opensuse users. That is widely used and also easy to implement ( as we are already quite busy with development ) and after some googling I think that allowing to easy mount cloud storage in expert partitioner can be exactly that feature. For SLE we should support ceph ( so easy integration with SUSE storage ) and for opensuse it make sense to support at least one public cloud storage provider ( like google drive, AWS, Azure blob, rackspace, etc. which is the easiest to implement ). I think it is trending enough feature, it should not be hard to implement ( basically entry in fstab ), it has UI ( so easy to demonstrate ) and everybody knows it. So here is few my questions: - Do you think it makes sense? - Does it make sense to add support for it also in libstorage-ng? And if so, how hard it will be? - Does it make sense to also allow non-root access to partitioner via pam-mount configuration, so each user can mount his own google drive? In general my estimation how fast I can do this feature without libstorage-ng and with augeas for fstab is one week of work. Josef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Report from OpenSUSE Conference
by Josef Reidinger 30 May '17

30 May '17

## Report from OpenSUSE conference 2017 ### YaST new module workshop In general better attended then the one in Dubrovnik. I think using skeleton is good, so it can more focus on explaning what is what and where to find info. Idea: Maybe it is time to revive skeleton generator for YaST modules, but more modular, as YaST already have a lot of common structures and toolings. It just should be more modular and easier to maintain. So it can e.g. generate CFA model for given file, generate new dialog, CWM widget, add travis conf and such stuff. Feedback from this part - yast_devel pattern sucks and we should update it. Also a person was hit by problem with different version of rspec gem and system ruby. Then part with YaST::Execute started. With some help everyone has working code. Feedback from this part: Silent errors are confusing for developers (when method failed, it is silently ignored and they cannot check it, they are confused what to do). As inspiration I create pull request to have in YaST::Execute also methods variants that do not show popup for errors and simply doesn't catch cheetah exception. Cheetah documentation itself missing promotion why it is better then built-in ruby shell executors. I already have it written down from one of my presentation, so it should be added there. When I talk about CFA it looks attendends are already a bit tired. I do not see much feedback from this part, probably because we already almost run out of time. Person who came here just to learn something about ruby burned out and leave after two hours. But when we talk later he said that he is impresed by ruby and plan to read something more about it. It is just too much new information to hold. Other YaST guys who were there do not hesitate to write what I forgot or what I did not notice. At the end I would like to thanks ancor for organizing it. ### My talk - YaST News Presentation was good, looks like everything is clear for audience. Having presentation after lunch break when sun is shinning really sucks. ### Interesting Parts from Other Talks Ancor's talk was well explained how our ecosystem works. For me the most intesting was question at the end of talk from audience why we do not have in Tumbleweed two yast modules that are in enterprise distribution and one that was mentioned was s390 ( so I suspect that guy was from IBM and second module is probably reipl ). As IBM is trying to make an opensuse spin for s390, maybe it make sense to also have those two modules in factory? Lada's presenantation about atom convince me to try it. Its extendability and using css for style and js for functionality really lowers barrier to adapt it for my best productivity. Just need find some time. Arvin's talk about storage-ng was good. Finally I get whole picture about design and pictures really helps to understand old and new design. Imo's talk about salt and autoyast was well presented. I think everything is clear for audience and it nicely fills picture from previous day talk about Kubic. Craig Gardner's talk about devops has interesting point, that it is good to breath a bit after delivery, which SCRUM sprint implicitelly don't do. Also it is important not just to add new cool stuff, but also drop no longer needed or efficient ones. Not just from user POV, but also in whole proces of development. libabigail talk was about automatic checking of ABI changes in ELF ( so C/C++). Interesting talk and I think it will be really interesting if it will be turn into service and write to e.g. pull requests all ABI changes, to check if it is OK. It now recognize red ( ABI incompatible), grey ( need check ) and green ( ABI compatible ) changes. Currently used in fedora. Maybe we can use it for C/C++ parts of our code? ### Feedback from venue talks YaST ncurses frontend missing mouse support even if ncurses already allows it. It is especially annoying in env which already eat some shortcuts and when there are a lot of widgets in dialog, as tab order is sometimes quite unpredictible. Feedback regarding email topic about placing lot of widgets to one dialog. In replies were multiple solutions mentioned. It would be nice to have one well supported solution for such task. Discussing with Richard Brown state of features.opensuse.org which looks for me a bit dead. We agreed that it doesn't work well and there is a plan to drop it. I provide input, that for developers who would like to help opensuse or even for our sprints planning it would be great if output of new solution is sorted list of features according to priority, so it is clear what is the most important. Problem is that openSUSE doesn't have project manager. Also history shown that voting is not solution. So how to recognize what will benefit the most of users? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] openSUSE Conference '17 report
by Imobach González Sosa 30 May '17

30 May '17

Hi all, These are my impresions about some talks during the openSUSE Conference '17. If you are interested in any talk, check them in https://events.opensuse.org/ conference/oSC17/schedule where you can find videos and slides for many of them. ## Technical Writing for Non-Writers https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1372 Really interesting workshop by Tanja Roth about writing technical stuff. In the final part of the workshop, we were working on a text[1] in order to improve it. As Tanja commented, there's no single right solution, so she just proposed one[2]. I will try to find out where the slides are available, as this talk was not recorded. [1] http://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/tech_writing_workshop_osc17 [2] http://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/tech_writing_workshop_osc17_proposal_taroth ## openSUSE Kubic A presentation about the new openSUSE Kubic product (based on CaaSP). We already had some ideas about the project, so it was a nice talk to have a better overview of what is going on there. ## Bridging openSUSE and SLE gap https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1294 This one was a follow-up by Frederic Crozat of another talk from previous oSC edition about syncing GNOME in openSUSE and SLE trying to use the same SRPMS. A lot of collaboration was needed to solve some issues like integration changelogs from openSUSE and SLE in order to not loose any valuable information (CVE/FATE/BSC numbers). I would expect another similar talk for next year with some updates. ## Transactional updates with Btrfs https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1258 Thorsten Kukuk presented a tool to perform transactional updates with Btrfs. The tool was already presented in mailing lists and it is available in Tumbleweed. This tool allows you to perform atomic system updates without interferring with the running system and allowing to rollback if something was wrong. There are still some rough edges, but it looks promising. ## Moving Beyond Infrastructure as Code https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1318 This talk from Thomas Hatch (SaltStack, Inc.) was pretty interesting. But, to be honest, sometimes it was too abstract stuff for me. ## YaST: from the repository to the distribution https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1266 Ancor presented how the YaST code goes from the repositories on Github to the final products. Usual stuff: Travis, Jenkins, OBS... presented in a straigth- forward and clear way. ## Open Source Projects and Product Management - Need, Pain or Useless? https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1462 This talk opened some interesting questions about product management in open source products. I was really interested because, with Jangouts, we face some problems in that area. However, the questions were not answered at all and I missed some discussion about them. ## YaST News: Summary of the last year https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1298 Nice presentation by Josef summarizing what we have done during this year. Kudos to the team because we have done a lot of pretty interesting things :) ## Next Generation Storage for YaST https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1228 Arvin talked about the new storage layer. It was a pretty good presentation that helped me to understand some of the ideas behind the new design and which advantages it will bring to YaST. ## Coloring IT Students Green https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1364 Emiel Brok talked about the "SUSE Academic Program". It looks like an interesting tool to introduce SUSE product on academic institutions. As you may know, we are in contact we few of them, so we'll try to move it forward. ## openSUSE Legal Review Process https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1374 Stephan Kulow presentation was about Licencing Hell and how they are trying to improve the situation. He talked briefly about licenses, challenges we face and presented a tool they're developing/using for that (called CAVIL). ## The Atom Editor https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC17/program/proposal/1356 Ladislav presented Atom in a nice way and convinced me to give it a try :) It looks like an easy to hack editor, so I would like to have a deeper lock into it. Regards, Imo -- Imobach González Sosa YaST team at SUSE LINUX GmbH Blog: https://imobachgs.github.io/ Twitter: @imobachgs

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[yast-devel] storage-ng and cache invalidation
by Josef Reidinger 30 May '17

30 May '17

Good morning, I am currently working on cache invalidation problem in CaaSP (bsc#1035746). From top-level view, bootloader store some storage devices in cache due to performance reasons ( in past we get bug report from real that with 1k disks, installation took more then 8 hours just to display bootloader proposal ) and what is problem is bug in invalidating that cache when bootloader storage changed. ( so it is true that chace invalidation is one of two hard things :) [1] ) In CaaSP and for master I will solve it using Storage.GetTargetChangeTime where I compare it and if different I invalidate cache. Now lets get to storage-ng. I try to port this fix there. So my first question is, what is similar equivalent in storage-ng which allows me to see if there is change in storage, so bootloader proposal is no longer valid? When I try to reproduce it on the latest storage-ng iso, I found even more annoying behavior, that when you go to installation summary and then go back to storage proposal and modify it ( I use guided setup with lvm ) and then go back to installation summary, it crashes badly ( segfault ). You can try it on your own with recent enough storage-ng DVD. In general my suspicion is that cache is not just no longer valid for root device, but because bootloader store storage objects, it is no longer valids. And here is my second question, what is recommended way to debug such issues ( so find where invalid object is hold ) ? I reproduce issue using plane libstorage-ng [2], so I try to debug this minimal case. I use gdb and valgrind. I see there that it is destroyed when device graph is destroyed. But I do not find method how to find where in ruby lives object that cause segfault. Any ideas how to recognize it? Ideally way that works also when issue happen on user side. Also I have to say, that from user POV, segfault and ruby exception is very very different. When I get ruby exception, I see popup saying what is a problem. I can continue. I was asked to report bug. And the most important part, I can get logs as environment still lives! When I get segfault, I get quick black screen followed by red area on blue which mention Error occured during installation without any details and what is more important: I do not find way how to get any logs, at least y2signal log will be useful!! So my user experience is very different, as in first case I see reason, I am asked to write bug report and I also can get logs when error happen. In second case I get only generic error and cannot get logs, so if this happen in openQA we also have problem to get it and we have to reproduce it ourself. We probably need to enhance a bit linuxrc to handle this more nicely and at least allow to get logs from segfaulted installation. Thanks for help with any of the question or any feedback. Josef [1] https://martinfowler.com/bliki/TwoHardThings.html [2] https://gist.github.com/jreidinger/b37ae595b3c3d8519453cd3c9fc0f198 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Pending Pull Requests
by yast-ci＠opensuse.org 30 May '17

30 May '17

This email is automatic generated from yast CI node. It lists of pull requests that have no activity more then three working days. If your module is listed, please check all pull request, why they are not merged yet. Pending requests in repository yast-add-on: - [WIP] Ask when the added repository is unsigned (bsc#1009127) (111 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-add-on/pull/37 Pending requests in repository yast-bootloader: - Use shared RSpec examples for CWM widgets (70 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-bootloader/pull/414 - don't create grub_installdevice and let perl-Bootloader run grub2-install (55 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-bootloader/pull/413 Pending requests in repository yast-core: - AnyAgent - improved logging to easier find bugs similar to bsc#1030425 (27 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-core/pull/120 Pending requests in repository yast-ldap: - Manipulate system LDAP configuration rather than application LDAP configuration (55 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-ldap/pull/26 Pending requests in repository yast-mail: - [WIP] return back MailTable to yast2-mail module from yast2 module (54 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-mail/pull/25 Pending requests in repository yast-network: - routing/firewall: no longer depend on SuSEfirewall2 for IPv4 forwarding (27 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-network/pull/503 Pending requests in repository yast-packager: - [WIP] Ask when the added repository is unsigned (bsc#1009127) (110 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-packager/pull/230 Pending requests in repository yast-pkg-bindings: - Fix pkgGpgCheck callback crashing when reporting SrcPackages (bsc#1037210) (21 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-pkg-bindings/pull/70 Pending requests in repository yast-security: - [WIP] refactoring autoconverted ruby code into ruby code (47 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-security/pull/40 Pending requests in repository yast-storage: - Propose /boot for encrypted root on PowerPC (54 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-storage/pull/155 Pending requests in repository yast-theme: - Removes "N" from logos to fix bug #953761 (19 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-theme/pull/77 Pending requests in repository yast-update: - use only y2storage classes and methods (7 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-update/pull/74 Pending requests in repository yast-users: - Reduce perl (55 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-users/pull/137 Pending requests in repository yast-yast2: - [WIP] Drop perl (56 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/540 - [WIP] Support for unsigned repositories (bsc#1009127) (54 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/537 - Do a full type detection when creating cache (56 days) https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/527 ERROR: API query limit exceeded -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Text freeze
by Ancor Gonzalez Sosa 29 May '17

29 May '17

The text freeze is just here for SLE12-SP3 (and 42.3). So from now on, please avoid changing translatable text. If you need to do so, make sure you contact ke and/or Thorsten. Thanks. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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