YaST Development March 2012

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[yast-devel] SVN -> Git: Report
by Lukas Ocilka 09 May '12

09 May '12

Hi, I've checked the current status of our testing Git repository, you can see the changes here: http://bit.ly/zsVW6I Summary: * Several repos have got additional branch * yast-dbus-client has been fixed (branches, tags, commits) * yast-dbus-server has been fixed (branches, tags, commits) * yast-extra-packages - broken (not used anymore?) * yast-libyui has been fixed (branches, tags, commits) * yast-modules - broken (not used anymore?) * yast-ncurses-pkg - broken * yast-network - broken * yast-nfs-client - broken * yast-nfs-server - broken * yast-nis-client - broken * yast-nis-server - broken * ... and all following modules (sorted alphabetically) Thanks in advance for fixing the import filters Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, Appliances Department SUSE LINUX s.r.o., Praha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Gloves: Permissions Overview
by Lukas Ocilka 13 Apr '12

13 Apr '12

Hi, I've created an overview drawing of two different solutions for Gloves permissions/roles: low vs high level of roles. See http://bit.ly/Hd20ef Frankly, it seems that neither of them can fully support roles hierarchy as it is presented here: http://bit.ly/GQ8pvZ (or it needs quite a complicated approach how to do that) Check out the links, please, and comment. Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, Appliances Department SUSE LINUX s.r.o., Praha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] YCP String operator [] and UTF-8
by Ladislav Slezak 12 Apr '12

12 Apr '12

Hi all, This is just a note for you in case you came across a strange UTF-8 string problem in YCP (maybe you already know that but for me it was quite a surprise): YCP string operator [] takes _byte_ index in the string, while size(string) returns _number_of_characters_. The problem is when you combine both functions, the result will be probably buggy, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728588 Example from the bug: size("áa") => 2, but "áa"[1] is not "a" as expected but the second _byte_ of the string which is one half of the "á" UTF-8 character, if you remove it you'll get garbage in the string... Keep this in your mind when iterating over YCP strings... (I'm not sure whether fixing YCPString::[] would be a good idea, it might break something else. Martin?) -- Ladislav Slezák Appliance department / YaST Developer Lihovarská 1060/12 190 00 Prague 9 / Czech Republic tel: +420 284 028 960 lslezak(a)suse.com SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Re: YaST proofreading
by Jiri Suchomel 29 Mar '12

29 Mar '12

Hi hackers, we've got new texts from YaST proofreading. I've already done most of the changes in svn. Ommited modules were either those C++ based, or some ones where I've seen changes that we may not want to accept (like using the text 'boot loader' instead of 'bootloader'). The modules that were not touched are: bootloader control-center gtk ncurses-pkg qt-pkg storage apparmour Please, maintainers of these modules, use the pot files from http://w3.suse.de/~jsuchome/proofed-2012-03-27/ and patch your code accordingly. All other hackers: although your modules were already adapted in svn, most packages were not submitted to autobuild. Please check your modules if they need it. Jiri -- Jiri Suchomel SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: jsuchome(a)suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Praha 9, Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] libxcrypt
by Arvin Schnell 28 Mar '12

28 Mar '12

Hi, about a week ago I removed usaging libxcrypt from yast2-core. I also removed the Buildrequires in all YaST packages but did not make new packages due to time limitations. Now libxcrypt was dropped in Factory. Please check whether that makes your packages fail and if so create new ones for the buildservice. ciao Arvin -- Arvin Schnell, <aschnell(a)suse.de> Senior Software Engineer, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Chef
by Martin Vidner 28 Mar '12

28 Mar '12

jsuchome> do we have any document covering Chef in SUSE? AFAIK no. I have started documenting it in the Chef wiki: http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Workstation+Setup+for+openSUSE -- Martin Vidner, YaST developer http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu

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[yast-devel] Snapper: Missing directory "/.snapshots" makes snapper fail
by Marcel Treis 27 Mar '12

27 Mar '12

Hi, i just installed openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64). I tried to use Snapper but using the Yast2 plugin failed as well as "sudo snapper create". var/log/snapper.log told me: libsnapper(3529) Snapshot.cc(nextNumber):362 - mkdir failed errno:2 (No such file or directory) Using strace i found that snapper needs the directory "/.snapshots". After creating this directory, everything seems to be fine, i can now create snapshots, and Yast automatically creates them. Perhaps snapper could auto-magically create the directory if needed? Greetings, -- Marcel Treis E-Mail: marceltreis(a)gmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] yast++ minutes -- 2012-02-13
by Vladimir Moravec 26 Mar '12

26 Mar '12

Hi, below you find minutes of the meeting from this monday. Vlado yast++ ==== https://github.com/yast/yast-- Date: ----- 13-02-2012 Present: ------- Jiri Srain, Lukas Ocilka, Martin Vidner, Josef Reidinger, Jiri Suchomel, Vladimir Moravec Minutes --------- Vladimir Moravec ToC: ======= 1. Packaging 2. File structure 3. Name 4. Portability 5. Play & test out of the Git 6. GSoC 7. Logging 8. What's next 1. Packaging ============ Main idea ---------- + how to distribute the code Proposals ---------- + gem directory structure if gem + check of local system dependencies + native extensions + stay with current rpm building and lets make it available for other distros via buildservice 2. File structure ================= + use of gem directory structure conventions 3. Name of the lib ================== Main idea --------- + to use or not to use 'yast' as a part of the name Pros ---- + established name and community, descendant of Yast + well known and easy to distinguish from others Cons ---- + not suitable if we target multiple distros + hard to find on google + hard to distinguish the name from yast + has association with 'suse only' + possible problem in the mind, with trademarked work 'yast' + makes impression that it is successor of YaST, but it is actually only extraction of part of YaST ( data processing ) Questions --------- + What are the criteria for the name? Suggestions for the name ------------------------ + ylib + anything with 'y' letter + liby + libyast Results ------- + use yast++ name as before in the meantime + change is however expected in the course of further development 4. Portability ============== Main idea --------- + make the lib available & popular for non-suse developers What are the means to achieve this ---------------------------------- + distro specific config / package script calls + other distros to be considered: Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu Random ideas ------------ + what changes are needed to include other distros as target systems + focus on other distros not from the beginning, only later after some point in development has been reached + focus from the early stage on development; past experience shows this as reasonable + talk/blog about the lib development in the public to make it aware of the project existence + show simple examples for using on other distros + currently no check for running distro + autodetection as the best way + use of plugins would be fine + distro autodetection, e.g. `cat /proc/version` Discussion -------- + too wide scope for beginning of such project (too many specifications, different needs for various distros) + too much work for small team -> rather focus on making happy well known users (studio,webyast), then use resources for others + imaginary users of debian/fedora as a too blury concept for the expected change + we need a proof of concept that it might run on different distros anyway Questions --------- + should the portability the a feature of the lib? + is the multi-distro focus meaningful? + would it be possible running it on Fedora at all? + What is needed to make the development focused on more distros? + where to implement the distro-specific configuration + how to avoid forking the lib from others and keep devs in one place => avoid splitting the community Suggestions ----------- + ylib as ideal level for customizing configuration of the lib for this 5. Play & test out of Github ============================ Main idea ---------- + make the lib developer friendly from the first touch How to achieve this -------------------- + directory with example files + using chroot for not breaking the running system (root needed) + scripts for chrooting available + alternatives for chroot: + good tutorial for developers + make appliances available Random ideas ------------ + devel-pattern for rpm packaging + appliances of other distros to play with the code + `git clone` into the pre-build VM + project on OBS / install from here + ensure modifying the local system (remounting) + using testing data (from testsuite) for development Questions --------- + how skilled is the developer who is going to use the lib? + how make the repo available for playing for other distros' developers Proposals --------- + look on other projects how they solve the system configuration change 6. GSoC ======= Main ideas --------- + portability feature + C binding for Python + support of Openstack => not needed currently + get in touch with Michal Hrusecky (GSoC/openSUSE wiki) 7. Logging ========== Main ideas ---------- + full logging in/out + filter passwords => results in slower performance + dry run - diffs in chroot - scripts + conventions for parameters + use of the test-suite to avoid wrong using of scripts + create/support official API + undef methods to block improper use of the lib 8. What's next? =============== + finish one or several modules and show the use case: + port it to to other distros + use it in the webyast Vladimir Moravec Appliances Department SUSE LINUX s.r.o., Praha

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[yast-devel] YaST++ Sprint Review 2012-02-21
by Lukas Ocilka 13 Mar '12

13 Mar '12

Generic Reminders ----------------- * Keep it simple * Some parts might be projects for Google Summer of Code ACLs ---- * Bind to path * Roles defined as in WebYast * Check how the others solve this (e.g., KDE) * AI: jsuchome & jreidinger New Project Name ---------------- * Ask community * Code name (maybe something known, easy to remember) * Package name (might differ to code name, but needn’t) * AI: everyone DBUS Optional ------------- * Depends on ACLs - how we define them * Anyway, root is always without DBUS already * Modular - created as plug-in * To lower the complexity * AI: jreidinger YaST-Related Data ----------------- * Stored in /usr/share/YaST2/data/ * Separate data to a different package? YaST++ must not depend on Classical YaST * Discussion WIP -- Lukas Ocilka, Appliances Department SUSE LINUX s.r.o., Praha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] software-install doesn't run ldconfig + suseconfig
by Norbert Zawodsky 07 Mar '12

07 Mar '12

Hello everybody! I'm new to this list and hope that this is the right place for my question. After an update of one of my machines from OS 11.1 to OS 12.1, I noticed that Yast's software-installer module does *_not_* run the ldconfig + suseconfig step after download and installing packages. Can anybody give me a hint why this could be and how I could track down this problem? Norbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner(a)opensuse.org

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