YaST Development March 2008

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[yast-devel] buttons buttons buttons
by Martin Schmidkunz 24 Oct '08

24 Oct '08

Hi, when testing openSUSE 11.1/SLES 11 I came across a rather curious situation: many modules have already switched their label from Abort/OK(Accept, Finish...) to the style guide compliant Cancel/OK label. However in every case there is a third, inactive "Back" button included. This doesn't make sense as there is nothing to go back and the dialog is just an overview. I suppose this is due to many of you using wizard.ycp as base template for creating your module. What do you think about using the button box (http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/08/28/button-order-in-yast-trying-to-make-…) instead of the buttons of wizard.ycp? In my opinion this would have the following advantages: * consistent button order in pop ups and in the module * user would not need to deal with an inactive button * button order in YaST would be consistent with the desktop used by the user What do you think about that issue? Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] yast style guide
by Martin Schmidkunz 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hi everybody, after some discussion and work I would like to present a first draft of a YaST style guide to you: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Ysg.pdf The intention of the style guide is NOT to dictate every pixel in every module but to make some basic actions and behaviors consistent which increases usability. The work was mostly done by Lukas (locilka) and me. Nonetheless this is just a draft and I would like to see it as a base for further discussion. First of all because two people cannot represent the large variety of opinions you all have and what all of you consider as acceptable. A style guide which is not supported by you, the developers, is IMHO useless (and we already have one useless style guide :-)) So: * Do you think the extent of the current draft is sufficient? * Which issues are missing? * Which ones should be removed? * Are there any contentwise issues you object/agree upon? I am looking forward to you comments! Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Product plans
by Benji Weber 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

Greetings All, Currently in factory Product::name, Product::distversion etc all return an empty string. Probably because there is no product installed. Is it planned to have products installed once zypp supports them again, or will Product.ycp obtain its data from somewhere else? Or is Product.ycp being dropped completely and I should use something else? At present I am using Product to determine which instructions from a YMP match the installed system. Should I compare against something else, like /etc/SuSE-release? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=373367 was my report for no product installed. -- Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] YCP and Float
by Arvin Schnell 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Hi Protectors Of YCP, which is the easiest way to display a float with 3 digits after the decimal point and rounding to zero? ciao Arvin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Tiny change to FormatSizeWithPrecision
by Arvin Schnell 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Hi, are there any objections to change FormatSizeWithPrecision to return "1 MB" instead of "1024 kB" and alike? Normally, when displaying e.g. package sizes, it shouldn't matter but in storage I want to display stribe sizes and such things where I have powers of two and the shorter "1 MB" looks better. ciao Arvin -- Arvin Schnell, <aschnell(a)suse.de> Software Engineer, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] make spellcheck / y2tool pot-spellcheck
by Katarina Machalkova 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, yast hackers In the light of bug #374628 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=374628), just a quick reminder that there is a tool that might help you not only to fix the typos Benji has found, but also to locate some more misspelled words in your modules, or inconsistent spelling in the texts ( e.g. ipv6 vs. IPv6) Just run: 'make spellcheck' or 'y2tool pot-spellcheck' in the root directory of your module. It will list all misspelled words in the strings of your module and suggest suitable alternatives. It uses ispell (?) so it gets confused by or doesn't even know very technical words such as 'smb', 'umount', 'strace', but in general it deals with typos quite well. I've just found ~5 more not listed in the bug above in yast2-network ... Maybe I should use it to spellcheck on this e-mail, too ;-) :-D frozenB. -- \\\\\ Katarina Machalkova \\\\\\\__o YaST developer __\\\\\\\'/_ & hedgehog painter

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[yast-devel] SCR Agent run.swapon_s will be removed
by Arvin Schnell 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

Hi, looking over the SCR agents in yast2-storage I recognised that run.swapon_s is just a inferior implementation of .proc.swaps (although with different return value). Also run.swapon_s seems to be unused. So I will remove run.swapon_s soon unless I recieve objections. cu Arvin -- Arvin Schnell, <aschnell(a)suse.de> Software Engineer, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] you can help SCR to be lazy
by Martin Vidner 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Hi hackers, Short: Please take your modules and rename the contained .scr files after the paths they serve: .foo.bar.baz -> foo_bar_baz.scr Long: in Alpha 3, SCR can be lazy. That is, it will not read all the *.scr files to register all the agents at the first opportunity. Instead, it guesses which file an agent is defined in and reads only that file. Only when that fails it does the big sweep. The aim is to reduce startup time, and thanks to Michael Meeks for bringing that topic up. It only works if the files are named accordingly. Most of them are but a major exception is .sysconfig.foo which are currently in cfg_foo.scr . And then all the other ones here and there. (In Alpha3, yast2-core-2.16.39 looks for foo.bar.baz.scr which does not fit the way most scr files are named now. I have just submitted .41 which uses underscores. Also, a warning "Scripting agent sweeping" will be logged when it has to give up and walk the disk.) I tried to measure the actual improvement, but did not get very far(*). To begin with, there are environment variables to restore the old behavior so that we can do any measuring at all: Y2SCRSWEEP=1 sweeps as soon as SCR is called Y2SCRNOSORT=1 does not sort the scr files (normally, when sweeping I try to reduce the penalty by sorting the files according to their inode number, hoping that it will result in sequential disk head movement) (*) I measured it this way, but got no difference :-/ Either this is all useless or I can blame VirtualBox. Repeat several times: echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; time Y2SCRSWEEP=1 Y2SCRNOSORT=1 yast2 nfs help and then with the new code: echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; time yast2 nfs help Next I will try on a real machine. Also I could try iogrid, but we don't seem to have in the build service (hint hint...) -- Martin Vidner, YaST developer http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Czech YaST2 team (Prague) meeting 2008-03-25
by Ladislav Slezak 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Czech YaST2 team (Prague) meeting 2008-03-25 ============================================ Present: jkupec, jreidinger, jsrain, jsuchome, juhliarik, kmachalkova, locilka, lslezak, mvidner Absent: mzugec Minutes: lslezak Next minutes: mvidner Package management ================== Automatic retry after timeout - libzypp can return IO_SOFT error in the media change callback which means timeout when accessing network. Yast and zypper automatically retry the download in such case (3 times, 30 second countdown). (bnc#328822) Automatic CD/DVD eject in yast - there is a new check button in the media change popup which can enable automatic eject when a CD/DVD medium is requested. (fate#301228) Users Configuration =================== Yast must know all system users _before_ starting the installation to not allow creating a user which will be created later automatically in RPM post-install script. The list is hardcoded and generated from RPMs in autobuild. YAXA (Yet Another XML Agent) ============================ Jiri Suchomel has implemented yet another generic XML agent because the current agents are not generic enough. The question is in which package it should be included (yast2 or ???), the dependencies of the new agent need to be evaluated. Ncurses Package Selector ======================== Refactoring of the ncurses package selector is still work in progress. Novell BrainShare 2008 ====================== Martin Vidner gave a presentation about the product creator module at the BarinShare event. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] New ncurses package selector is out
by Katarina Machalkova 28 Mar '08

28 Mar '08

Hi, yast2-ncurses-pkg (text-mode package selector) with refactored user interface will be available in Factory in the next few days. The curious ones can do a svn checkout in the meantime ;-) (http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/ncurses-pkg). Enough of words, now some pictures: http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-main.png http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-search.png http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-deps.png http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-view.png http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-extras.png http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-help.png http://users.suse.cz/~kmachalkova/pkger-rpmtree.png (internal SUSE page, at the moment, sorry. It seems I'm unable to update old screenshots @opensuse.org right now) Some issues (mostly due to not adapting the code to new libzypp yet): * List of pattern's packages is now empty * The info whether pattern is installed is not visible * Languages list is empty * In repositories filter, empty repository (@system) is always displayed Last but not least, the new package selector is by no means perfect (though I tried hard to make it so ;-) ). There is plenty of other bugs and rough edges, keep reporting them :) Enjoy! frozenB. -- \\\\\ Katarina Machalkova \\\\\\\__o YaST developer __\\\\\\\'/_ & hedgehog painter

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