June 2008 - YaST Development - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[yast-devel] buttons buttons buttons
by Martin Schmidkunz 24 Oct '08

24 Oct '08

Hi, when testing openSUSE 11.1/SLES 11 I came across a rather curious situation: many modules have already switched their label from Abort/OK(Accept, Finish...) to the style guide compliant Cancel/OK label. However in every case there is a third, inactive "Back" button included. This doesn't make sense as there is nothing to go back and the dialog is just an overview. I suppose this is due to many of you using wizard.ycp as base template for creating your module. What do you think about using the button box (http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/08/28/button-order-in-yast-trying-to-make-…) instead of the buttons of wizard.ycp? In my opinion this would have the following advantages: * consistent button order in pop ups and in the module * user would not need to deal with an inactive button * button order in YaST would be consistent with the desktop used by the user What do you think about that issue? Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Changes in yast2-ldap-server
by Ralf Haferkamp 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

Hi, as you might have noticed I just committed quite some changes to the ldap-server module in trunk. This is the result of the work I have been doing recently in a local git (git-svn) tree. The changes are an almost complete redesign of the ldap-server agent, YaST-API and parts of the GUI (more to come). I needed to do that to make yast2-ldap-server support a new configuration mechanism of OpenLDAP that allows the server to be mananged completely via LDAP (as a result of that, no restarts are needed and config changes are effective immediately). I am not completely done with the changes yet, but the module is now in a state that it can be built again as an RPM and it creates a valid running OpenLDAP configuration (most of the times ;) ). Some things however do not yet work. The biggest missing/broken thing is the YaPI interface that some other YaST Modules (samba, mail, dns and dhcp) use to access the OpenLDAP configuration (add Schema, change Database-Indexes). I hope to have that fixed or offer a different way to access the functionality really soon now and will keep you updated in case that some changes are required in those modules. Other non working things are: - AutoYaST support - Some of the options offered in the GUI don't hit the configuration database yet - Documentation is lacking - Some feature available in the old module might currently be missing. - The module itself has still quite a lot of rough edges -- regards, Ralf PS: Sorry for the big amount of commit traffic but I wanted to keep the history intact (using git-svn dcommit). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Prague YaST Team Meeting 2008-06-24
by Ladislav Slezak 27 Jun '08

27 Jun '08

Prague YaST Team Meeting 2008-06-24 =================================== Present: jkupec, jreidinger, jsrain, juhliarik, jsuchome, kmachalkova, locilka, lslezak, mvidner, mzugec Product Creator --------------- Support for multiple patterns in one file has been added to the product creator module. Yast Documentation ------------------ Documentation for Yast in openSUSE-11.0 is available at http://forgeftp.novell.com/yast/doc/SL11.0/ Other Distributions ------------------- http://mvidner.blogspot.com/search/label/cultural%20exchange http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Projects/Lived_in_Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] YaST as a Service - reworked wiki page available
by Klaus Kaempf 27 Jun '08

27 Jun '08

Hi, I have now reworked the 'YaST as a Service' wiki page[1] to better explain the architectural concept and the concrete implementation proposal. This project does not intend to supersede other projects (Make YaST Independent of YCP, Using CIM from YaST modules, YaST DBus Service, YaST PackageKit Service, YaST Web User Interface) but intends to show how a combination of them can lead to a next-gen YaST architecture. Klaus --- [1] http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Research/YaaS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Makefile: multiple target patterns
by Martin Vidner 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

Hi, if you get the error "multiple target patterns" (when making the documentation in core), it is because "make" gets confused when a file name contains colons. 1) please get yast2-devtools-2.17.0+: Mon Jun 9 11:29:04 CEST 2008 - mvidner(a)suse.cz - ydoc.xsl: don't break on builtins in namespaces. 2) rm html/*::* 3) if (2) does not help, then make clean, or otherwise make sure that the "id" attribute in the *.xml docs does not contain colons. Sorry for the trouble. -- Martin Vidner, YaST developer http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] YaST web user interface -- QxtWeb Module
by Lukas Ocilka 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

Hi, Maybe a stupid question ;) but could we reuse the code we actually have for Qt user interface and link it with 'QxtWeb Module'? http://docs.libqxt.org/group__QxtWeb.html QxtWeb provides tools for creating event-driven web services using Qt. The general usage pattern is as follows: * Create a QxtAbstractWebSessionManager object, such as QxtHttpSessionManager, for each protocol that can interface to the service. * If using QxtHttpSessionManager, select a connector plugin, such as QxtHttpServerConnector. * Register a QxtAbstractWebService factory. The factory is invoked each time a new session is created and returns a service object for that session. QxtWebServiceDirectory allows you to register multiple services and selects between them based on the path. * Invoke QxtAbstractWebSessionManager::start() to begin accepting connections. Could any Qt guru review that, please :)? Thx Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ano, ano. Moudry rozkaz. Sam jsem nemel v tech gratulacich jasno.

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[yast-devel] yast style guide
by Martin Schmidkunz 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

Hi everyone, please find a new version of the YaST style guide draft at: http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Ysg2.pdf The goal is to have a developer friendly style guide which ensures the greatest possible consistency between various modules and various environments. The time line for the style guide is to discuss it the next two weeks and to have an executable style guide by the end of the YaST workshop. I would like to ask and encourage you again to discuss it! What do you like? What do you dislike? What is missing? Just to come up with some points of discussion: * button labeling: OK/Cancel instead of Apply/Accept/Abort/... and Next/Back/Cancel/Finish in a wizard/add workflow I know OK/Cancel is not 100% correct but with these two labels we are consistent to GNOME HIG and KDE http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/windows-utility.html.en#expl… http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/dialogs/index.ht… * Progress dialogs I propose to skip the cancel button because I made the experience that in many cases the cancel button does not work * Number of steps in a wizard I propose to skip the display of "Step XX of XX" because the number of steps can not predicted in every module * colons In accordance to GNOME (http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/controls-option-menus.html.en) and KDE style guide (http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/basics/labels.ht…) I propose to use colons with the label of a combo box And of course there might be many more issues worth to be discussed :-) The style guide is based on the style guide in the wiki (http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Style_Guide) developed by Lukas and me and when we agreed on one version it will be published in the openSUSE wiki again. Looking forward to your opinions! Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] Re: YaST Workshop 2008
by Michal Svec 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

Hello, this is a preliminary schedule, also published on the wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Events/Workshop_Nuremberg_2008#Schedule * Monday: 11:30 Arrival from Prague, 12:00 Opening&Lunch * Tuesday: 12:00 Lunch, 13:00 5+5 minutes each team * Wednesday: 12:00 Lunch, 13:00 5+5 minutes each team, 15:00 Outdoor event, 18:00 Dinner * Thursday: 12:00 Lunch, 13:00 5+5 minutes each team * Friday: 12:00 Lunch, 13:00 Wrapup, 15:00 Departure (to Prague) Not much is planned as most of the time should be spent by ... hacking :-) Thanks Michal On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Michal Švec wrote: > > Hi all, > > first of all I'd like to thank you for the hard work on openSUSE 11.0, > it's definitely going to be a great release! > > Having said that I'm pleased to announce YaST Workshop 2008, taking place > in Nuremberg, June 30 to July 4. > > The main goal is to move YaST further, both in terms of functionality, but > also higher flexibility and more openness. We want to give developers a > chance to work on something new, something we often neglected for some > time, something cool and also have fun with that. > > The details about the workshop can be found here: > http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Events/Workshop_Nuremberg_2008 > > As it is supposed to be a team work, I'd like to encourage you to have a > look at the ideas, enlist yourself at those you would like to work on and > use the time until the workshop to look around the topics and learn new > things, possibly using your ITO. The list of ideas is not closed so > anybody can expand the list with further ideas. > > Also, the event is not closed, if you would like to work with a collegue > from a different team or department on the project, feel free to invite > him to take a part (and let us know in order to prepare the logistics). > > I strongly believe this would be fun and useful as well and I'm looking > forward to it. > > Thanks > Michal >

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[yast-devel] YaST Workshop 2008
by Michal Švec 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

Hi all, first of all I'd like to thank you for the hard work on openSUSE 11.0, it's definitely going to be a great release! Having said that I'm pleased to announce YaST Workshop 2008, taking place in Nuremberg, June 30 to July 4. The main goal is to move YaST further, both in terms of functionality, but also higher flexibility and more openness. We want to give developers a chance to work on something new, something we often neglected for some time, something cool and also have fun with that. The details about the workshop can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Events/Workshop_Nuremberg_2008 As it is supposed to be a team work, I'd like to encourage you to have a look at the ideas, enlist yourself at those you would like to work on and use the time until the workshop to look around the topics and learn new things, possibly using your ITO. The list of ideas is not closed so anybody can expand the list with further ideas. Also, if you would like to work with a collegue from a different team or department on the project, feel free to invite him to take a part (and let us know in order to prepare the logistics). I strongly believe this would be fun and useful as well and I'm looking forward to it. Thanks Michal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: yast-devel+help(a)opensuse.org

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[yast-devel] YaST workshop projects
by Jiri Srain 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

Hi! I have looked through the projects, which have at least one participants, here is the summary: Make Building YaST Documentation Easier (Better) Lukas Ocilka Make YaST Independent of YCP Jozef Uhliarik Make YaST more IPv6 compatible Michal Zugec Using CIM from YaST Modules Jan Kupec YaST Interface for Webpin Katarina Machalkova Willing Mentors: Lukas Ocilka, Martin Vidner YaST on other Distributions Michal Zugec Martin Vidner YaST PolicyKit configuration module Jiri Suchomel YaST PolicyKit integration Josef Reidinger Ladislav Slezak Jiri Suchomel YaST Style Guide Lukas Ocilka YaST web user interface Jiri Srain Stefan Schubert Michal Zugec Jozef Uhliarik CVS for config files Stefan Hundhammer signals and slots for zypp Stefan Schubert Michael Andres YaST Libzypp Module Stefan Schubert Stefan Hundhammer Michael Andres mod-ui module J. Daniel Schmidt Stefan Hundhammer Thomas Goettlicher Gabriele Mohr (K)Desktop Integration for plug'n'play hardware Thomas Goettlicher Stefan Haas Installation in IPv6 Environment Steffen Winterfeldt Hubert Mantel If you have selected more projects, please, pick up one which you want to work on (and consider the interest shown by others). It will be possible to move to another project during the workshop (provided the team agrees), the selection is about choosing project you start with. One of the rules is that there must be at least two participants of each project. If you are alone, please, try to convince someone join you, or move to another project. Thanks in advance! Jiri -- Regards, Jiri Srain YaST Team Leader --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: jsrain(a)suse.cz Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 959 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz

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