August 2005 - openSUSE M17n - openSUSE Mailing Lists

SCIM question
by hermanmeester 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

Hello, A friend asked me if I knew if SCIM works for every (recent) Linux distribution. He has something I never heard of, from some Linux magazine. This is not the place to advertise other Linuxes than SuSE ;) but does anyone know if there are distributions that have problems to (easily) install SCIM, or versions that are surely easy on it? Thank you herman

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RE: [m17n] Culmus Hebrew fnts
by hermanmeester 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Herman, This doesn't answer your question about Culmus fonts, but I also had a hard time finding a font for my system that looked good in English and in Hebrew. I finally downloaded the Tahoma font from Microsoft, and am very happy. Verenda is also very similar to Tahoma and displays well in English and in Hebrew. The only font that I found in a standard Linux distro that halfway looks good in both languages is Ellinia. The Hebrew is a little fancy (not biblical fancy, mind you), but I got used to that quickly. I will be happy to send to you Tahoma and Ellinia if you want. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/124/collins_phil.php Collins, Phil Song Lyrics Thanks Dotan, I would like to ask you to get me those fonts, but now I'm even more puzzled. All my fonts work perfectly (even Persian, Korean...), except all the Hebrew fonts that I installed: these just don't come out as they should (only the hebrew fonts that were already there from the start function well). So I think I could not install your fonts either. I think my system has a problem with the way Openoffice handles any newly imported hebrew fonts. I'll just have to give it up until I update my whole system. I may or may not have created the problem myself ^^ About the hebrew fonts that look good in both Hebrew and English; Did you install the Culmus fonts? Maybe it looks traditional, but I think Frank Ruehl's Hebrew and western fonts of Culmus is not so bad. And I liked the Nachlieli. Do you also have freesans.ttf (truetype)? The western letters of that one look very "sans"ish, maybe minimalistic, but so far I have to use only those. The freeserif.ttf look so biblical that you just can't use it, it's as if someone grafted them by hand in a piece of stone ^^. If you like a retro feel, try the freemono.ttf and make them all bold, you'd have a very inky typewriter (If it's not bold it looks not good). Anyway if anyone would know anything specific relating to hebrew fonts, and the configuration for OOo, I'd always be interested. Thanks, & regards herman

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SuSE 9.3 - APT update - problems with fonts antialiasing
by AV 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Hi, I know that this list is not for such questions. But excuse me, cant find list that could help me. I think problem is with freetype2 package. After this package has been updated I have antialiasing problem. When I downgrade to previous freetype2 version problems still stay with small fonts. Or could it be some other problems? Maybe someone has correct freetype2 package? Please help. Audrius

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Culmus Hebrew fnts
by hermanmeester 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Hello Mike, and others interested, A while ago you mentioned that the Culmus hebrew Type1 font package could be installed by default in the next version of SuSE Linux. This week I had to download the Culmus fonts again, via http://culmus.sourceforge.net/. I did it by giving the command rpm -i http:// [etc] .rpm, and then I got a warning that some .rpmsave and .rpmnew files were installed too. It turned out, when I looked for hidden files, that a number of the following items were sneakily installed as hidden files. Maybe it has something to do with my computer (suse 9.1), but this is what I found (the .rpm puts nothing in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts but I copied some fonts there myself): /usr/local/share/fonts/.fonts-config-timestamp /opt/kde3/share/fonts/.fonts-config-timestamp /usr/share/fonts/he/Type1/.fonts-config-timestamp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/.fonts-config-timestamp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/.fonts-config-timestamp /usr/share/fonts/.fonts-config-timestamp /usr/share/fonts/he/.fonts-config-timestamp I was surprised because I didn't know these fonts were restricted, they're all GNU and stuf, I thought. They nowhere say you have to pay. The result was that they worked for a while, and after one or two sessions the fonts didn't show anymore. If the Culmus fonts were to be a default in the next Suse Linux, these sneaky things had better be left out. And I wonder what an .rpmnew or .rpmsave file would be doing. It prevented me from letting YaST get rid of the Culmus package! YaST thinks there is no Culmus, but there still is. I think my fonts now work, because I threw it all out except the fonts themselves, manually, but I'll see what happens. Has anyone else seen funny things happen with Culmus? So far, I recommend to be careful with it. Or is it just me who is infected with funny software? Regards, Herman

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RE: [m17n] Culmus Hebrew fnts
by hermanmeester 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

Mike said: These [fonts-config-timestamp] files are created by /usr/sbin/fonts-config which is called by SuSEconfig. I.e. these files are nothing to worry about, this is completely normal. They are created to check whether fonts-config needs to do any work. If there is nothing new in the font directories, fonts-config immediately exits to save time. *** Do you mean that if the "timestamp" thinks it has already seen these fonts before, they won't be configured well, even if they hadn't been configured rightly before? (...) To make sure that all configuration files are correct, please run /usr/sbin/fonts-config --force as root. The option "--force" makes sure that all config files are recreated no matter whether it appears to be necessary according to the timestamps or not. *** Thank you Mike; Just one little question before I run the above file: what do you think might have caused the culmus fonts to work for a while, say two or three sessions, and then suddenly they stop showing? I've been "struggling" with culmus for weeks now. In the fonts list in OpenOffice they still are mentioned, but, for example as Drugulin CLM, with behind it a number of empty squares, which were not there before. And the font showing in the office document is another font, usually Lucidasans (looks messy). You see, I could understand something is wrong if it doesn't work in the first place, but why work well for a while and then stop working? (I used to think computers don't have moods.) Is that something that /usr/sbin/fonts-config manages? After I got rid manually of all the "config", "rpmnew" and "local" kind of files which I guessed the Culmus .rpm had put there, then as a result, only the Type1 fonts (.afm and .pfa files) were of course, left (in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ and /usr/share/fonts/). Immediately after that, all the Culmus fonts showed again in office documents, in short they just worked, and were printed well. (That made me believe these little non-font files were disturbing.) I wouldn't care if I didn't like these fonts so much ;) Thanks and regards, herman

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