openSUSE M17n June 2005

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No compose characters possible with asian language setting
by akimbo337＠gmx.de 16 Nov '09

16 Nov '09

Hello! I'm currently using SuSE 9.0 pro for both german and japanese input. This works fine so far, by setting the variables LC_CTYPE to ja_JP.UTF-8 and LANG to de_DE.UTF-8, but nevertheless I experienced a problem: With the LC_CTYPE set to japanese and an input method running (currently kinput2), I cannot type european language compose characters any more - at least the ones I used to produce with two sequent keystrokes ( ´ and e for é for example). The rest of my (german) keyboard layout works all fine, and with LC_CTYPE set to german, é's, à's, ô's, etc pose no problem, but then, of course, I cannot input japanese... This problem seems also to be existent for other language settings that use an input method, I tried it out with a friend who uses chinese input (also on SuSE 9.0 pro). We (my friend and I) are currently writing an article about asian language input with StarOffice/OOo, so we would really appreciate any help or hint concerning this problem. Thanks. Marcel Boeing

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ghostscript and LyX-CJK
by hisha 19 Oct '05

19 Oct '05

Dear list, I just installed SUSE9.3, japanese version, in Unicode. Basically everything works, except two snags: 1) lyx-cjk-1.3.5-3 does not allow for kanji input in the main window. I tried this after starting kinput2 -canna& LANG=ja_JP LC_XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2" lyx-cjk I can see japanese text, e.g. the splash.lyx file. I can input Japanese if I open the "find" dialog, or in the lower bar, the minibuffer, and even copy and paste the result into the main window, but NOT enter Japanese directly. This worked still fine with SUSE 9.1. 2) Next, ghostview. I took an example file, like http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/vertical-orizontal-test.ps I verified that I can open this in my old SUSE8.2 and see all characters correctly. Next, I open it with gs as normal user in 9.3, from bash. The result are Mojibake and the messages: --- gs vertical-horizontal-test.ps ESP Ghostscript 8.15 (2004-09-22) Copyright (C) 2004 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file COPYING for details. Scanning /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ for fonts... 12 files, 12 scanned, 0 new fonts. Scanning /usr/share/fonts/ for fonts... 2 files, 2 scanned, 0 new fonts. Can't find (or can't open) font file /home/hisha/Resource/Font/Ryumin-Light-UniJIS-UTF8-V. Can't find (or can't open) font file Ryumin-Light-UniJIS-UTF8-V. Querying operating system for font files... Didn't find this font on the system! Substituting font Courier for Ryumin-Light-UniJIS-UTF8-V. Loading NimbusMonL-Regu font from /usr/share/ghostscript/fonts/n022003l.pfb... 2395532 1032646 1474788 180942 1 done. Can't find (or can't open) font file /home/hisha/Resource/Font/Ryumin-Light-UniJIS-UTF8-H. Can't find (or can't open) font file Ryumin-Light-UniJIS-UTF8-H. Didn't find this font on the system! Substituting font Courier for Ryumin-Light-UniJIS-UTF8-H. >>showpage, press <return> to continue<< --- Then I switched to root (su -) and there I CAN open the file, without a hitch. The messages are in this case --- ESP Ghostscript 8.15 (2004-09-22) Copyright (C) 2004 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file COPYING for details. Scanning /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ for fonts... 12 files, 12 scanned, 0 new fonts. Scanning /usr/share/fonts/ for fonts... 2 files, 2 scanned, 0 new fonts. Loading a TT font from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ipam.ttf to emulate a CID font Ryumin-Light ... Done. >>showpage, press <return> to continue<< --- These two things happend just afer I installed the system, so I did not change the standard configuration. Now, because I did not find any hint in the suse-cjk guide, does anybody have an idea of what might be going wrong? Hisha __________________________________ Save the earth http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ondanka/

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RE: [m17n] unusual characters in OOo
by hermanmeester 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mike FABIAN [mailto:mfabian@suse.de] Verzonden: do 23-6-2005 23:51 Aan: hermanmeester CC: m17n(a)suse.com Onderwerp: Re: [m17n] unusual characters in OOo "hermanmeester" <hermanmeester(a)hetnet.nl> Now, if you select the M17N-t-latn-pre input method in the SCIM panel, you can get these Dutch characters by typing "i -> ï "e -> ë "a -> ä (left side is what you type, right side is what is inserted, for a complete list of the key-combinations offered by the M17N-t-latn-pre input method, have a look at the file /usr/share/m17n/latn-pre.mim). ***That is a good method. It is what I was used to when I still worked with M$ Windows years ago, but instinctively you like to type " + e(or a, o, u) to get ë, ä, ö, ü. Or, other systems may use : + e, a, o, etcetera. As you use German yourself, Mike, if I may assume that, you need to use the "Umlauted" vowels much more. Which input method do you use if I may ask? I mean, you'd surely want a lot of shortcut keys, don't you? SCIM also has a "raw code" input method where you can insert the unicode code point. ***I like that one too, you need a fine memory though, but I have to remember 4 numbers for my bank pass as well ;-) In the SCIM setup dialog, you can define hotkeys to switch between input methods. I.e. you may define key combinations to switch between your favorite Korean input method and the M17N-t-latn-pre input method. ***I'll take a look at that. One question, does the SCIM setup menu differ for different (SuSE) Linux versions? I have a feeling I can't discover all the possibilities you mention. regards, herman

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SCIM, (Vocalised!) Hebrew, Arabic
by hermanmeester 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mike FABIAN [mailto:mfabian@suse.de] Verzonden: vr 24-6-2005 12:06 Aan: hermanmeester CC: James Su; m17n(a)suse.com Onderwerp: Re: [m17n] RE: SCIM, (ar/heb); and possible problem in SCIM setup The scim-m17n etc. packages included on your SuSE 9.1 CDs/DVD are a bit old though, for example there was no M17N-t-latn-pre input method available at that time. I recommend to update to the packages you can find in ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/ ** I got it all from there, not from DVD, because if I search something in YaST it often even doesn't mention there's a package, that's my fault (old distribution ;-) I was quite surprised at the huge list of writing systems you can input with SCIM. Hebrew and Arabic work fine. The only thing with Arabic is, it now lists "Arabic (Egypt)" => M17N-ar-kbd That's almost perfect, the only it doesn't have is the sign " ? ". ("dhaal"). It is there in the Persian section, but that one lacks other signs needed for Arabic even more. Does anyone have an idea if there is a "Modern Standard Arabic" or "newspaper language" input method for Arabic (that is the international version of Arabic) available, for example at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/ ? Thanks already. And for anyone who is familiar with very ancient Hebrew, is there anything available for SCIM in the field of vocalised hebrew? Hebrew consonant characters can be given tiny vocal signs above or below, and also some signs inside. It looks like this, hope you can all see it: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (Some of them are for Yiddish, by the way, which is for reasons that involve the entire central european history also written with Hebrew characters, although it's a Germanic language.) It would be great if even that would be possible with SCIM. But maybe I should try to learn enough to be able to contribute something myself for a change ;-) (...) SCIM should work even better for Korean on SuSE 9.3 because scim-hangul has been updated. (...) And, you don't really need a Korean keyboard layout because the difference of a Korean keyboard layout and an US keyboard layout is very small, the only difference is that the Korean keyboard has two extra keys to the right and left of the space bar, the rest is identical. You should have no problems using a Korean keyboard with an US keyboard layout. I.e. I see no reason preventing you from updating to SuSE Linux 9.3. I'll actively think about that. I'm now working through this Linux course I found, because I would want to know what to save, and so on, if I upgrade anything. And I don't want to bother you again within a short period of time, now that I have everything working on 9.1. About the keyboard layout, what you said is quite true; Han'geul has all its alphabetic signs situated on a key that has a latin character too. So I never configured any other keyboard layouts. Regards, Herman

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persian (last one so far)
by hermanmeester 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

finally, Persian. No SHIFT version yet, may come up.

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Korean keyboard
by hermanmeester 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

this one is very elementary in fact, but you may not need more

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hebrew keyboard
by hermanmeester 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

next for hebrew

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Arabic keyboard layout (SCIM) (next)
by hermanmeester 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

next sxw file

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Arabic keyboard layout (SCIM)
by hermanmeester 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Hi everyone, if anybody be interested, I attached some .sxw files on which you can = easily see where the Arabic, Hebrew and Korean alphabetic characters = are positioned, next to the latin QWERTY keys. This is the default way = it's done in SCIM. You can throw them, use them, or mess around with it. I just made them = to put in front of the keyboard to get used to where my fingers have to = go. Putting the characters on the keyboard itself for some people is no = option, because the keyboard gets so messy that you'd end up seeing no = characters at all any more ;-) A little practising makes all other keyboard configurations, I mean in = the system itself, unnecessary if your native language is a western one. = Some people like to have an Arabic "R" on the R key, etc, but this is = not an option for me, it messes things up even more. There is always a = certain systematic in the default. But who am I to judge anyway. For Korean, I only give the 2bul / hangul layout because I think that's = the only system that really makes sense. If I made any mistakes, please don't hesitate to comment. I didn't have the energy to make a SHIFT version for Persian yet, but = that may be coming up. regards, Herman

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Arabic keyboard and SCIM
by hermanmeester 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Hello , I withdraw all I've said about the missing letter in the Egyptian Arabic part of SCIM. It's just there on the ~` key but I was so dumb as to expect it somewhere else. So please do not waste your energy on this matter. Sorry and best regards, Herman

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