May 2003 - openSUSE M17n - openSUSE Mailing Lists

public domain TrueType fonts for Thai
by Mike FABIAN 28 May '03

28 May '03

Here is a package containing a collection of public domain TrueType fonts for Thai: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-noarch/fonts-thai-0.cvs.20030527-… ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/fonts-thai-0.cvs.20030527-0.s… -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Japanese menu problems under IceWM
by ピアスエリック 28 May '03

28 May '03

Howdy. I don't think this is SuSE specific, so this post may not belong here. But it is Japanese related, and I've posted this twice to IceWM's mailing lists and received 0 replies. I compiled IceWM 1.2.0 for international support (--enable-i18n). In the program menu, IceWM seems to have a problem (bug?) with any folder or program with Japanese characters for its name. Here's a screenshot which demonstrates the problem. http://epierce.freeshell.org/menu.png If you'll note, the four (automated by IceWM) Japanese entries up from the bottom have proper quick-keys assigned (i.e., the (A), (T), etc.), but the 7-8 Japanese entries that I added all have a problem (i.e., just a little dot shows up). After a quick look at 'ja/LC_MESSAGES/icewm.mo', I tried to copy what was going on there by adding something like (_M) after the Japanese in the 'menu' file in hopes of assigning my own quick-key, but that didn't work. IceWM only seems to be looking for roman characters for its automatic quick-key assignment. Anyone have any ideas here? Thanks for reading... Eric P __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/

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SuSE8.2/KDE 3.1: Problems embeding thai fonts for printing
by Walter Betschart 27 May '03

27 May '03

I have problems printing Thai texts in SuSE 8.2 It looks, like my truetypes are not embeded in the postscript file. In SuSE 8.0 and 8.1 it worked perfect. With SuSE 8.2 and KDE 3.1 it works only with latin texts. I tried to configure the fonts with KDE (kcmshell System/kcmfontinst), and with SuSE --module fonts. With the same result. I downloaded and installed the updates for KDE/QT3. It didn't help. For my last test, I installed SuSE 8.2 again from scratch and installed all YOU updates. Set language in ~/.profile export LANG=de_CH.UTF-8 export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 As root I prepared the fonts with its fonts.scale.* in a separate directory with: # /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontscale \ -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large \ -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings -- # mv fonts.scale fonts.scale.MyFonts I copied the fonts and font.scale.MyFonts to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ I executed "SuSEconfig --module fonts" The fonts are available in KDE. In kwrite I select "Arial Unicode MS" for Display and Printer. The Text (latin and thai) is showed just perfect. When I print it to postscript file (or printer) just NimbusSanL-Regu is embeded. And only the latin text is printed. This happens with most of my truetype fonts. Only a few work. With OpenOffice, all fonts are embeded perfect. Has anyone experienced something similar? Walter

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Re: [m17n] Greek on the Linux console (was Problem with 'locale' on SuSE 8.2)
by philip _ 24 May '03

24 May '03

Everything is OK now, thanks a lot. Please report this bug to your colleagues so that it will be fixed in the next release of SuSE Linux. > > Another problem with Greek characters, is that the framebuffer console > > doesn't display them correct. SuSE has set lat7a-14.psfu by default. > >That is probably a mistake. See >/usr/share/doc/packages/kbd/fonts/README.Greek > >README.Greek> Some distributions have Greek fonts with names like lat7*, >README.Greek> but latin-7 is ISO 8859-13, a character set for the Baltic >Rim. > >Sorry. > > > I tried the same changes for the locale variables but the problem > > still persists. Any thoughts ? > >The following settings work for Greek on the console: > > export LC_ALL=el_GR.ISO-8859-7 > setfont iso07u-16 -m trivial > echo -en "\033(K" > >To get this automatically, you can edit /etc/sysconfig/console, >a sample file using the values above is attached. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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GTK+-2.0 Hangul Input Modules for SuSE Linux 8.2
by Mike FABIAN 22 May '03

22 May '03

A new GTK+-2.0 Hangul input module is available for SuSE 8.2 here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/imhangul-0.9.6-0.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/imhangul-0.9.6-0.src.rpm There is already a Hangul input module available in GTK+-2.0, but this additional input module works much better. Select the input method with "Control+Right-mouse" in any GTK+-2.0 application, then you can switch between English and Korean input with Shift+Space. This extra imhangul package also makes it possible to enter Hangul syllables which included in Unicode but not in the KS X 1001 repertoire. For example U+AC02 can be typed as the keysequence 'r', 'k', 'R' (on a qwerty KBD). -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Font config
by G Rajesh Iyer 20 May '03

20 May '03

Mike, I am forwarding the message I received from Manmathan. Kindly do the needful. Rajesh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manmathan Kumarathurai" <mannan(a)daimi.au.dk> To: <ganesanrajish(a)eth.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Font config > Quoting G Rajesh Iyer <ganesanrajesh(a)softhome.net>: > > > Hi, > > Regarding you message that fontconfig does not list other fonts > > except arial unicode, what is the present position? I am trying to > > bring Tamil support in SuSE. Mike Fabian mfabian(a)suse.de of SuSE > > likes to know present status. Can you reply to me at > > ganesanrajish(a)eth.net > > The bug is fixed, have a look at: > http://fontconfig.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=84 > or look below. > > Will you please vote for the bug 204039 at: > http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204039 > > This will make Mozilla be able to display webpages encoded in Tamil Unicode > under ALL platforms. A very important step for tamil support in Linux, the same > code/patch could maybe used for other products such as OpenOffice. > > If you want more information just send an email. > > Thanks > Manmathan > -------------- > > Full Text Bug Listing > > Tamil orthography : U+0B82 and Tamil digits had better be removed > Description: > I examined a dozen of Tamil truetype fonts (in Unicode as opposed to TSCII encoding) > and none of them has U+0B82. TSCII(glyph encoding widely used even now) doesn't > have U+0B82 (see http://www.tamil.net/tscii/faq5.html) which can indicate that > U+0B82 is not used very often if used at all. In addition to U+0B82, > 11 of 12 TTFs (included in Mandrake Linux 9.1: > ftp://sunsite.dk/mirrors/mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/fonts-ttf-tamil-1.1 -1mdk.noarch.rpm > ) don't have Tamil digits and numbers (U+0BE7 - U+0BF2). Some fonts lack > only a couple while others don't have any digits/numbers. Perhaps, most Tamil > speakers prefers Western-style digits (well, they're originated from India > as you know well) to traditional Tamil digits. > > Given the situation of current fonts in circulation, U+0B82 and [U+0BE7 - U+0BF2] > may as well be removed from ta.orth. Otherwise, none of fonts in Mandrake Linux 9.1 > (also used by other Linux/Unix users) would be recognized as supporting Tamil. > I found this problem after adding 'ta' font preference option to Mozilla > (see <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204039>. The patch uploaded > there doesn't have font-pref change, yet.). > > > > ------- Additional Comments From Jungshik Shin 2003-05-06 02:34 ------- > > I asked a native Tamil speakers (Manmathan Kumarathurai : mannan daimi au dk) > about those characters > and was told that I'm right. Below is his response to my query: > > <quote> > > You are right. These characters af very rarely used thats why the font > developers didn't use time to create them. They aren't part of the widely used > tscii fonts either. > </quote> > > > > ------- Additional Comments From Keith Packard 2003-05-06 07:27 ------- > > Thanks for the updates. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10-03-2003

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Translations
by G Rajesh Iyer 15 May '03

15 May '03

Dear Mike, Gnome & Kde are being translated into Tamil. Supporting a language out of box needs translation of it tools too (in our case YaST), right? Does SuSE needs any help in this regard? I will try my best though I may take some time. Nothing commercial about my offer - just I want SuSE to support my mother tongue fully - of course, to the extent feasible and as early as possible! Truly, Rajesh --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10-03-2003

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[m17n]: SuSE 8.1 / kinput2 / canna
by David Nettles 14 May '03

14 May '03

I have successfully installed SuSE 8.1 on 4 different environments with Japanese support enabled. All of the installations have occured on Western hardware (in the US), but the installation was done in Japanese (changing to Japanese mode at the beginning of the installation). On one machine, though, things are not working quite right. It seems that I am missing something. As a user, I log in by selecting "IceWM" from the kdm selector. I then perform the following steps: * open a kterm * in the kterm I type the following on the command line "echo おに" * before pressing return, I press the space bar with the intent of having it do a lookup for a reasonable kanji (in this case I intend to search for "鬼") * instead of giving me a first reasonable kanji or a box with choices, it gives me a small popup windows with the message "かな漢字変換サーバと通信できません" I later re-ran kinput from the command line ("kinput2 -xim -kinput -canna") and received the same error message as above. As root I ran "/etc/init.d/canna full-status" and it reported the following: Checking for Canna Kanji Server: running Error Disconnected This machine is configured to get all of its network stuff via the default DHCP config that was configured by SuSE 8.1's installer. I have verified that files that should exist in /etc as well as /var/lib/canna match the files as found on a model working system (the one that I am typing this on now). I've searched groups.google.co.jp for other folks with config issues looking for more things to check, but in general my systems are pretty safe. No tricks installed. All users have LANG=ja_JP by default (I did trying changing it to LANG=ja_JP.EUC per another's recommendation, but it did not change the behavior). The .profiles are unchanged defaults. For the Japanese users. No changes made. This problem effects the users on only this one new installed system. 3 of the systems (including the problematic one ) are light "KDE, GNOME, windowmaker, ICEWM, mwm, qvwm, twm, failsafe" installations. All help is appreciated. -- david email: tetsuoni3000(a)yahoo.co.jp web: http://www.miteyo.org

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fonts for Tamil available for testing
by Mike FABIAN 14 May '03

14 May '03

here is a font package which contains the Tamil OpenType fonts available on http://tamil.homelinux.org/ which are created by T. Vaseeharan <t_vasee(a)yahoo.com> Thukkaram Gopalrao, USA http://www.thinnai.com/ R. Kalaimani, Tharagai Software, Singapore. Vasu Devan, Kamban Software, Australia. http://www.kamban.com.au/ Akruti Ltd., Bombay, India http://www.akruti.com/ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-noarch/fonts-tamil-0.20030512-0.n… ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/fonts-tamil-0.20030512-0.src.… When installing this font package and the package with the Tamil KDE translations (kde3-i18n-ta), switching the language to Tamil in the KDE control centre and selecting the font "Tscu_paranar" in the KDE font settings, it looks like in this screen shot: http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/misc/G-Rajesh-Iyer-20030513/kcontrol-tamil.png I'm happy to hear feedback and suggestions what else is needed to improve support for Tamil in SuSE Linux. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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FW: [m17n] 8.2 PRO which language during install
by Michael Engel 14 May '03

14 May '03

Has someone already installed 8.2 Pro in Japanese ? When reaching the following menu (and afterwards too), everything Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., is Mojibake: http://www.suse.de/de/private/products/suse_linux/i386/images82/y2_sellang.p ng Regards Michael -----Original Message----- From: Michael Engel [mailto:michael-engel@ma.dic.co.jp] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:00 AM To: m17n(a)suse.com Subject: [m17n] 8.2 PRO which language during install Hello, I have one question: I have to use mostly Japanese and English - but I also want to use German and French under Linux. During the install, the install language is asked. Which method is easiest/recommended: 1) doing the install in English or German and add Japanese language support. 2) doing the install in Japanese. Another question, if I do 2) can I later easily switch the menu and help texts to English/German ? Thank you Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m17n-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: m17n-help(a)suse.com

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