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Tamil input method for GTK2 available for SuSE Linux 8.2
by Mike FABIAN 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

The Tamil input method modul for GTK2 written by Dinesh Nadarajah which is available from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tamilinix/files/keyboard/tamil-gtk2im.tar.gz is now also available as an rpm package for SuSE Linux 8.2. You can download the packages from here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/tamil-gtk2im-0.20030519-0.i5… ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/tamil-gtk2im-0.20030519-0.src… -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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update: yudit 2.7 packages available for SuSE Linux 8.1 and 8.0
by Mike FABIAN 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

Updated yudit packages are available for SuSE Linux 8.0: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.1-i586/yudit-2.7-0.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.1-src/yudit-2.7-0.src.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/yudit-2.7-0.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-src/yudit-2.7-0.src.rpm >From the NEWS file of yudit: NEWS> Changes since version 2.6.4: NEWS> --------------------------- NEWS> NEWS> o Added full Unicode compliant bidirectional text support NEWS> o Added fallback to root xinput style if no suitable style is found NEWS> o Received and added Polish gui translations, Persian.kmap, Sanskrit.kmap NEWS> Inuktitut-ICI.kmap, Inuktitut-KBD.kmap, Chinese-Pinyin.kmap, NEWS> Chinese-WB.kmap, ArmenianEastPhon.kmap NEWS> o Speed Optimizations NEWS> o OpenType GPOS support for composing characters NEWS> o Better TAB control NEWS> NEWS> Other Notes: NEWS> ----------- NEWS> Even if you can not read bidirectional scripts, it will be NEWS> useful to type this in the editor command area: NEWS> NEWS> howto bidi NEWS> NEWS> to get some ideas what bidi is, and how it works in Yudit. NEWS> Even if you can not read RL scripts, RL words will be indicated NEWS> in yellow (the default RL color). >From yudit's home page at http://www.yudit.org: > Yudit is a unicode text editor for the X Window System. She can do > True Type font rendering, printing, transliterated keyboard input and > handwriting recognition with no dependencies on external engines. Her > conversion utilities can convert text between various encodings. > Keyboard input maps can also act like text converters. There is no > need for a pre-installed multi-lingual environment. Menus are > translated into many languages. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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update: mined 2000.3 package available for SuSE Linux 8.0
by Mike Fabian 04 Aug '03

04 Aug '03

An updated package of mined is available for SuSE Linux 8.0: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/mined-2000.3-0.i386.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-src/mined-2000.3-0.src.rpm Mined is a text editor, small and easy to use, yet powerful. It is Unicode-capable, using UTF-8 encoding (also converts UTF-16 input). >From the CHANGES file: ============================================================================= Changes from mined 2000.2 -> mined 2000.3 ========================================= Documentation: -------------- The manual page was updated and thoroughly revised. Its primary source was transformed into HTML, roff/man format being generated. The mined web pages were updated and revised. The file "doc/compilation" (with compilation hints) was updated. Features: --------- HOP '/' enters an indented Javadoc comment frame. Interface: ---------- Options can be concatenated on the command line. (mined -uu instead of mined -u -u enables Unicode line separators.) Right-to-left script input support is now enabled by default. The option -b toggles it. Option -G disables (actually toggles) the display of certain control characters as block graphics characters (enabled by default). Option +G enforces use of block graphics for display of menu borders. May be used if the "alternative character set" capability is not configured in your system but your terminal does have the capability. Set output delay (-d0..-d9) to none (-d-) by default in all versions. The help command was unified on Unix and DOS versions. Not completely, however, as calling a sub-programm ("less") through the "system" call doesn't seem to work on DOS (it crashes or blocks terminal input afterwards, even with cygwin). See also next comment. A second help viewing mode is now avaible (HOP HELP, e.g. HOP F1). It displays help information within mined itself, restoring the previous editing state afterwards. This is the default on MSDOS for the reason mentioned before. Bug fixes: ---------- Fixed a screen-related pointer confusion after replacement with multiple lines (embedded newline) which could result in a display bug and page down could be blocked. (Very minor) Just deleting the trailing line-end of a file is also considered a modification (a file only modified this way would previously not have been saved automatically). (Minor) With UTF-8 auto-detection involved, the character count after reading the file could be wrong (ESC ? would have been correct). (Minor) The pop-up menu, when modified with HOP and thus becoming smaller, used to leave the frame of its previous width on the screen. (Embarassing) Although I was proud of "perfect responsiveness to window size changes" I had just forgotten to implement that for the case of a menu being open. On DOS, editing a file with Unix line-ends, the function "append to buffer" used to append the lines with MSDOS line-ends. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Problem with 'locale' on SuSE 8.2
by philip _ 06 Jun '03

06 Jun '03

Hi. I have some problems with the Greek language on 8.2. I have installed 8.2 with the Greek language as the default. KDE displays everything really fine. The problem was when i ran XMMS (which uses gtk as far as i know). SuSE has defined the LANG variable and LC_*** variables to "el_GR.ISO-8859-7". So i had to change it to "el_GR". Since that change XMMS displays the translations right. As i remember i had to do the same thing on SuSE 8.1 (i think i had send a bug report for that). So can u explain me why locale does not work correct for "el_GR.ISO-8859-7" with some programs like XMMS? Another problem with Greek characters, is that the framebuffer console doesn't display them correct. SuSE has set lat7a-14.psfu by default. I tried the same changes for the locale variables but the problem still persists. Any thoughts ? Thanks Filip. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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8.2: changing keyboard layout group doesn't work
by Nikola Lecic 03 Jun '03

03 Jun '03

Hello, (SuSE 8.2 on Compaq Presario 2100) My problem probably has an easy solution, but I can't understand it. First of all, I noticed (in Kontrol Center) that Keyboard Layouts have been moved from 'Peripherals' to 'Regional'. As in 2 earlier version, I set as following: Primary layout: sr (serbian) Primary variant: basic (only possible) Additional layouts: sr (only, without default 'us') Group Shift/Lock behaviour: Left Win key changes group In earlier versions, I had a small 'sr' flag. By default, it meant 'us' keyboard. When I press Left-Win, I got 'sr' cyrillic keyboard. Now it doesn't work. 'sr' in the corner means _only_ cyrillic keyboard. For common us keyboard I have to add 'us' layout ; it's not good because I can't switch between layouts so fast. What's wrong? Nikola

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Re: [m17n] 8.2 language coverage?
by Mike FABIAN 02 Jun '03

02 Jun '03

hiura(a)li18nux.org (Hideki Hiura) さんは書きました: > Does anyone have an info or where to look for, on the list of > languages 8.2 supports and list of languages which translations > available? On the page http://www.suse.de/de/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages_professiona… there is a list of all packages contained in SuSE Linux 8.2. The packages with name "yast2-trans-??" contain translations for the language ?? for YaST2. I.e. yast q translations are available in bg Bulgarian bs Bosnian cs Czech da Danish de German el_GR Greek en_GB British en_US American es Spanish fr French hu Hungarian it Italian ja Japanese ko Korean lt Lithuanian nl Dutch pt_BR Translations ru Russian sk Slovak sl_SI Slovene sv Swedish tr Turkish zh_CN simplified Chinese zh_TW traditional Chinese Unfortunately one cannot see here how complete these translations are. The degree of completeness varies a lot. I know that Japanese and Korean are almost complete and that simplified Chinese is also quite good. Traditional Chinese is extremely incomplete, probably less than 1% translated. I guess most of the others are more or less complete, but I don't now for sure. You can also see which KDE translations are available by searching for kde3-i18n-?? packages on that page. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Re: [m17n] 8.2 language coverage?
by philip _ 29 May '03

29 May '03

Wouldn't be more elegant if SuSE had a special page on it's site for that purpose? So everyone could see the current translation status. I have seen that other major distros already provide that feature. Cheers. >From: Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)suse.de> >Reply-To: mfabian(a)suse.de >To: hiura(a)li18nux.org (Hideki Hiura) >CC: m17n(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [m17n] 8.2 language coverage? >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:18:10 +0200 > >hiura(a)li18nux.org (Hideki Hiura) ³ñÍ«Üµœ: > > > Does anyone have an info or where to look for, on the list of > > languages 8.2 supports and list of languages which translations > > available? > >On the page > >http://www.suse.de/de/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages_professiona… > >there is a list of all packages contained in SuSE Linux 8.2. > >The packages with name "yast2-trans-??" contain translations for >the language ?? for YaST2. I.e. yast q translations are available in > > bg Bulgarian > bs Bosnian > cs Czech > da Danish > de German > el_GR Greek > en_GB British > en_US American > es Spanish > fr French > hu Hungarian > it Italian > ja Japanese > ko Korean > lt Lithuanian > nl Dutch > pt_BR Translations > ru Russian > sk Slovak > sl_SI Slovene > sv Swedish > tr Turkish > zh_CN simplified Chinese > zh_TW traditional Chinese > >Unfortunately one cannot see here how complete these translations are. > >The degree of completeness varies a lot. > >I know that Japanese and Korean are almost complete and that >simplified Chinese is also quite good. Traditional Chinese is >extremely incomplete, probably less than 1% translated. > >I guess most of the others are more or less complete, but I don't now >for sure. > >You can also see which KDE translations are available by searching for >kde3-i18n-?? packages on that page. > >-- >Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian >°s«Í¢¢dÌGŸB > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: m17n-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >For additional commands, e-mail: m17n-help(a)suse.com > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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8.2 language coverage?
by Patrick Op de Beeck 28 May '03

28 May '03

Dutch translation is very good on desktop but lacks in the programs (I think it depends on the writer and users). The main problem is spell and grammar : there are two different programs on the Suse and the question is which is the best for the future ? Only one has support for dutch. The Belgian keyboard lacks the backslash on the <and > key . previous versions had this but it has disappeared. More problematic is the lack of the use of shared memory by SuSE 8.2. The programs appear to be static linked ? -- Patrick Op de Beeck

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OpenOffice 1.1 beta 2 and fonts
by Audrius 28 May '03

28 May '03

Hi, I am from lithuania so I am using lithuanian letters like "ąčęėįšųūž" (that's all of them). I have installed OO 1.1 beta 2 on two machines. On this one from which I am writing now everything is ok with fonts in OO. On another machine in spreadsheet when I type lithuanian letters they all looks good in a cell but in Input Line some of them become "???". Why? In OO 1.0.2 on both machines everything looks good. -- Audrius SuSE 8.2 Pro

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How to switch KDE keyboard
by Audrius 28 May '03

28 May '03

Hi, I am from Lithuania and I am using two keyboard layout: lithuanian and us. I can switch with mouse from one to another, but I would like to switch keyboard layout with keyboard shortcut, f.e., left Ctrl+Shift. How can I do that? I am new in Linux, so please explain it in details ;-) -- Audrius SuSE 8.2 Pro

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public domain TrueType fonts for Thai
by Mike FABIAN 28 May '03

28 May '03

Here is a package containing a collection of public domain TrueType fonts for Thai: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-noarch/fonts-thai-0.cvs.20030527-… ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/fonts-thai-0.cvs.20030527-0.s… -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Japanese menu problems under IceWM
by ピアスエリック 28 May '03

28 May '03

Howdy. I don't think this is SuSE specific, so this post may not belong here. But it is Japanese related, and I've posted this twice to IceWM's mailing lists and received 0 replies. I compiled IceWM 1.2.0 for international support (--enable-i18n). In the program menu, IceWM seems to have a problem (bug?) with any folder or program with Japanese characters for its name. Here's a screenshot which demonstrates the problem. http://epierce.freeshell.org/menu.png If you'll note, the four (automated by IceWM) Japanese entries up from the bottom have proper quick-keys assigned (i.e., the (A), (T), etc.), but the 7-8 Japanese entries that I added all have a problem (i.e., just a little dot shows up). After a quick look at 'ja/LC_MESSAGES/icewm.mo', I tried to copy what was going on there by adding something like (_M) after the Japanese in the 'menu' file in hopes of assigning my own quick-key, but that didn't work. IceWM only seems to be looking for roman characters for its automatic quick-key assignment. Anyone have any ideas here? Thanks for reading... Eric P __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/

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SuSE8.2/KDE 3.1: Problems embeding thai fonts for printing
by Walter Betschart 27 May '03

27 May '03

I have problems printing Thai texts in SuSE 8.2 It looks, like my truetypes are not embeded in the postscript file. In SuSE 8.0 and 8.1 it worked perfect. With SuSE 8.2 and KDE 3.1 it works only with latin texts. I tried to configure the fonts with KDE (kcmshell System/kcmfontinst), and with SuSE --module fonts. With the same result. I downloaded and installed the updates for KDE/QT3. It didn't help. For my last test, I installed SuSE 8.2 again from scratch and installed all YOU updates. Set language in ~/.profile export LANG=de_CH.UTF-8 export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 As root I prepared the fonts with its fonts.scale.* in a separate directory with: # /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontscale \ -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large \ -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings -- # mv fonts.scale fonts.scale.MyFonts I copied the fonts and font.scale.MyFonts to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ I executed "SuSEconfig --module fonts" The fonts are available in KDE. In kwrite I select "Arial Unicode MS" for Display and Printer. The Text (latin and thai) is showed just perfect. When I print it to postscript file (or printer) just NimbusSanL-Regu is embeded. And only the latin text is printed. This happens with most of my truetype fonts. Only a few work. With OpenOffice, all fonts are embeded perfect. Has anyone experienced something similar? Walter

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Re: [m17n] Greek on the Linux console (was Problem with 'locale' on SuSE 8.2)
by philip _ 24 May '03

24 May '03

Everything is OK now, thanks a lot. Please report this bug to your colleagues so that it will be fixed in the next release of SuSE Linux. > > Another problem with Greek characters, is that the framebuffer console > > doesn't display them correct. SuSE has set lat7a-14.psfu by default. > >That is probably a mistake. See >/usr/share/doc/packages/kbd/fonts/README.Greek > >README.Greek> Some distributions have Greek fonts with names like lat7*, >README.Greek> but latin-7 is ISO 8859-13, a character set for the Baltic >Rim. > >Sorry. > > > I tried the same changes for the locale variables but the problem > > still persists. Any thoughts ? > >The following settings work for Greek on the console: > > export LC_ALL=el_GR.ISO-8859-7 > setfont iso07u-16 -m trivial > echo -en "\033(K" > >To get this automatically, you can edit /etc/sysconfig/console, >a sample file using the values above is attached. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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GTK+-2.0 Hangul Input Modules for SuSE Linux 8.2
by Mike FABIAN 22 May '03

22 May '03

A new GTK+-2.0 Hangul input module is available for SuSE 8.2 here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-i586/imhangul-0.9.6-0.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/imhangul-0.9.6-0.src.rpm There is already a Hangul input module available in GTK+-2.0, but this additional input module works much better. Select the input method with "Control+Right-mouse" in any GTK+-2.0 application, then you can switch between English and Korean input with Shift+Space. This extra imhangul package also makes it possible to enter Hangul syllables which included in Unicode but not in the KS X 1001 repertoire. For example U+AC02 can be typed as the keysequence 'r', 'k', 'R' (on a qwerty KBD). -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Font config
by G Rajesh Iyer 20 May '03

20 May '03

Mike, I am forwarding the message I received from Manmathan. Kindly do the needful. Rajesh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manmathan Kumarathurai" <mannan(a)daimi.au.dk> To: <ganesanrajish(a)eth.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Font config > Quoting G Rajesh Iyer <ganesanrajesh(a)softhome.net>: > > > Hi, > > Regarding you message that fontconfig does not list other fonts > > except arial unicode, what is the present position? I am trying to > > bring Tamil support in SuSE. Mike Fabian mfabian(a)suse.de of SuSE > > likes to know present status. Can you reply to me at > > ganesanrajish(a)eth.net > > The bug is fixed, have a look at: > http://fontconfig.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=84 > or look below. > > Will you please vote for the bug 204039 at: > http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204039 > > This will make Mozilla be able to display webpages encoded in Tamil Unicode > under ALL platforms. A very important step for tamil support in Linux, the same > code/patch could maybe used for other products such as OpenOffice. > > If you want more information just send an email. > > Thanks > Manmathan > -------------- > > Full Text Bug Listing > > Tamil orthography : U+0B82 and Tamil digits had better be removed > Description: > I examined a dozen of Tamil truetype fonts (in Unicode as opposed to TSCII encoding) > and none of them has U+0B82. TSCII(glyph encoding widely used even now) doesn't > have U+0B82 (see http://www.tamil.net/tscii/faq5.html) which can indicate that > U+0B82 is not used very often if used at all. In addition to U+0B82, > 11 of 12 TTFs (included in Mandrake Linux 9.1: > ftp://sunsite.dk/mirrors/mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/fonts-ttf-tamil-1.1 -1mdk.noarch.rpm > ) don't have Tamil digits and numbers (U+0BE7 - U+0BF2). Some fonts lack > only a couple while others don't have any digits/numbers. Perhaps, most Tamil > speakers prefers Western-style digits (well, they're originated from India > as you know well) to traditional Tamil digits. > > Given the situation of current fonts in circulation, U+0B82 and [U+0BE7 - U+0BF2] > may as well be removed from ta.orth. Otherwise, none of fonts in Mandrake Linux 9.1 > (also used by other Linux/Unix users) would be recognized as supporting Tamil. > I found this problem after adding 'ta' font preference option to Mozilla > (see <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204039>. The patch uploaded > there doesn't have font-pref change, yet.). > > > > ------- Additional Comments From Jungshik Shin 2003-05-06 02:34 ------- > > I asked a native Tamil speakers (Manmathan Kumarathurai : mannan daimi au dk) > about those characters > and was told that I'm right. Below is his response to my query: > > <quote> > > You are right. These characters af very rarely used thats why the font > developers didn't use time to create them. They aren't part of the widely used > tscii fonts either. > </quote> > > > > ------- Additional Comments From Keith Packard 2003-05-06 07:27 ------- > > Thanks for the updates. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10-03-2003

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Translations
by G Rajesh Iyer 15 May '03

15 May '03

Dear Mike, Gnome & Kde are being translated into Tamil. Supporting a language out of box needs translation of it tools too (in our case YaST), right? Does SuSE needs any help in this regard? I will try my best though I may take some time. Nothing commercial about my offer - just I want SuSE to support my mother tongue fully - of course, to the extent feasible and as early as possible! Truly, Rajesh --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free - AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.461 / Virus Database: 260 - Release Date: 10-03-2003

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[m17n]: SuSE 8.1 / kinput2 / canna
by David Nettles 14 May '03

14 May '03

I have successfully installed SuSE 8.1 on 4 different environments with Japanese support enabled. All of the installations have occured on Western hardware (in the US), but the installation was done in Japanese (changing to Japanese mode at the beginning of the installation). On one machine, though, things are not working quite right. It seems that I am missing something. As a user, I log in by selecting "IceWM" from the kdm selector. I then perform the following steps: * open a kterm * in the kterm I type the following on the command line "echo おに" * before pressing return, I press the space bar with the intent of having it do a lookup for a reasonable kanji (in this case I intend to search for "鬼") * instead of giving me a first reasonable kanji or a box with choices, it gives me a small popup windows with the message "かな漢字変換サーバと通信できません" I later re-ran kinput from the command line ("kinput2 -xim -kinput -canna") and received the same error message as above. As root I ran "/etc/init.d/canna full-status" and it reported the following: Checking for Canna Kanji Server: running Error Disconnected This machine is configured to get all of its network stuff via the default DHCP config that was configured by SuSE 8.1's installer. I have verified that files that should exist in /etc as well as /var/lib/canna match the files as found on a model working system (the one that I am typing this on now). I've searched groups.google.co.jp for other folks with config issues looking for more things to check, but in general my systems are pretty safe. No tricks installed. All users have LANG=ja_JP by default (I did trying changing it to LANG=ja_JP.EUC per another's recommendation, but it did not change the behavior). The .profiles are unchanged defaults. For the Japanese users. No changes made. This problem effects the users on only this one new installed system. 3 of the systems (including the problematic one ) are light "KDE, GNOME, windowmaker, ICEWM, mwm, qvwm, twm, failsafe" installations. All help is appreciated. -- david email: tetsuoni3000(a)yahoo.co.jp web: http://www.miteyo.org

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fonts for Tamil available for testing
by Mike FABIAN 14 May '03

14 May '03

here is a font package which contains the Tamil OpenType fonts available on http://tamil.homelinux.org/ which are created by T. Vaseeharan <t_vasee(a)yahoo.com> Thukkaram Gopalrao, USA http://www.thinnai.com/ R. Kalaimani, Tharagai Software, Singapore. Vasu Devan, Kamban Software, Australia. http://www.kamban.com.au/ Akruti Ltd., Bombay, India http://www.akruti.com/ ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-noarch/fonts-tamil-0.20030512-0.n… ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.2-src/fonts-tamil-0.20030512-0.src.… When installing this font package and the package with the Tamil KDE translations (kde3-i18n-ta), switching the language to Tamil in the KDE control centre and selecting the font "Tscu_paranar" in the KDE font settings, it looks like in this screen shot: http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/misc/G-Rajesh-Iyer-20030513/kcontrol-tamil.png I'm happy to hear feedback and suggestions what else is needed to improve support for Tamil in SuSE Linux. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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FW: [m17n] 8.2 PRO which language during install
by Michael Engel 14 May '03

14 May '03

Has someone already installed 8.2 Pro in Japanese ? When reaching the following menu (and afterwards too), everything Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc., is Mojibake: http://www.suse.de/de/private/products/suse_linux/i386/images82/y2_sellang.p ng Regards Michael -----Original Message----- From: Michael Engel [mailto:michael-engel@ma.dic.co.jp] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:00 AM To: m17n(a)suse.com Subject: [m17n] 8.2 PRO which language during install Hello, I have one question: I have to use mostly Japanese and English - but I also want to use German and French under Linux. During the install, the install language is asked. Which method is easiest/recommended: 1) doing the install in English or German and add Japanese language support. 2) doing the install in Japanese. Another question, if I do 2) can I later easily switch the menu and help texts to English/German ? Thank you Michael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m17n-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: m17n-help(a)suse.com

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Re: [m17n] 8.2 PRO which language during install
by Norman Diamond 14 May '03

14 May '03

"Michael Engel" <michael-engel(a)ma.dic.co.jp> wrote: > Which method is easiest/recommended: > 1) doing the install in English or German and add Japanese language > support. > 2) doing the install in Japanese. In 8.1, I found 2) much easier. I think that 1) is supposed to be not much harder than 2), but for some reason when doing 1) I seemed to miss some settings that came automatically with 2). > Another question, if I do 2) can I later easily switch the menu and help > texts to English/German ? Yes it is easy, though you must do separate settings for the Linux base system and the KDE desktop. For the base system you will have to use YaST2 and input the superuser's password (unless you want to do the relevant editing manually, which would also need the superuser's password). For the KDE desktop, each individual user can set preferences in the KDE control panel. Using YaST2, I set LC_CYPE to ja_JP.eucJP, and might experiment with ja_JP.utf8 someday. This makes sure that Japanese input will be possible to terminal windows and every application that understands it. Other locale options can be set to English or German settings. In KDE, I set a list of languages to include both English and Japanese. KDE isn't very bright yet when it comes to a list containing more than one language. However, it didn't cause any crashes (yet) and it helped enable options in some of the free office applications to allow Japanese input.

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