March 2011 - openSUSE Documentation - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-doc] "su" versus "su -" = "su -l" = "su --log" was: [opensuse-factory] Trouble starting yast2 from terminal
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

To: opensuse-doc(a)opensuse.org CC: opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org = http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2011-03/msg00298.html Am 10/03/11 10:47, schrieb Vincent Untz: [...] > Use "su -", not "su". I'm actively wondering if there's any reason to > keep the "su" default behavior around. It just keeps harming us again > and again. [...] > > Vincent > Hi Vincent, hi Frank, hello all, I think this should at least be reflected in the documentation. But there is used the su program without even mentioning the login shell ( --log/ -l/ -) option: Reference > Chapter 21. Shell Basics > 21.4. Becoming Root > 21.4.1. Using su http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.n… I rate the hole reworking and expand the printed/book like manuals was a great operation (that should be mentioned in the 'highlights' article of 11.4). But maybe it some background (like: su versus su- ; what are gnomesu, kdesu, gksu, gksudo, xdg-su -c "[command]", ....like?) and explanations could be done in the wiki (at least as an unstable/stage version before including it/parts of it to the manuals)? Compare also: on the su/su - issue http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-release-beta… and following http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/community-fun/opensuse-wiki… and following On the basics and concepts of security http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-doc/2011-03/msg00001.html and following Regards Martin (pistazienfresser) -- - Martin Seidler - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-doc+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-doc] openhelp conference
by Jos Poortvliet 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Hi all, Anyone thinks it's valuable to visit the openhelp conference*? Please CC me, I'm not on the list ;-) Cheers, Jos *http://openhelpconference.com/

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Re: [opensuse-doc] openSUSE 11.4 manuals ready for translation / 11.4 changes
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

CC: opensuse(a)opensuse.org To: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-doc/2011-03/msg00000.html * From: Frank Sundermeyer <fs@xxxxxxx> * Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:03:02 +0100 * Message-id: <20110301160302.6ef5a827(a)pythagoras.suse.de> > #### 11.4 Changes ###### > > > Start-Up: > --------- > For 11.4 we completely revamped that Start-Up guide. It now consists of > 5 chapters derived from the former quickstarts: > > * Installation > * KDE > * GNOME > * LibreOffice > * Help & Troubleshooting > > The first 3 chapters have been shipped as separate Quickstart with > former openSUSE versions (filenames are the same as before). The > LibreOffoce part is new, the Help & Troubleshooting remains in the > Start-Up. > > Reference: > ---------- > Most of the stuff that has been in previous Start-Up versions has been > moved/merged into the Reference Guide. > > Files having been added from old Start-Up: > > * xml/inst_yast2.xml > * xml/yast2_hw.xml > * xml/yast2_sound.xml > * xml/yast2_scanner.xm > * xml/newbie_bash.xml > * xml/newbie_perm_i.xml > * xml/newbie_bash_commands_i.xml > * xml/nm.xml > * xml/nm_kde.xml > * xml/nm_gnome.xml I have just given a new user (who as got his system a bit ruined) a link to: Novell: openSUSE 11.2 Start (html) > 6.1 Benutzerkonzept > 6.1.1 Unterschiedliche Benutzerrollen http://www.novell.com/de-de/documentation/opensuse112/book_opensuse_startup… witch equates to openSUSE Start-Up > Chapter 6. Basic Concepts http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE_113/opensuse-startup/cha… form Start-Up (Date 09 Mar 2011) http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE_113/opensuse-startup Have I only not been able to find the passages in the new Reference or the new Startup or do you think something like it is not more necessary? I would doubt that it would be really wise to drop basics like that completely. Regards Martin -- - Martin Seidler - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-doc+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-doc] openSUSE 11.4 manuals ready for translation / 11.4 changes
by Frank Sundermeyer 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hi, the English openSUSE 11.4 manuals have been finished and are now ready for translation. The XML sources are available from https://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribut… ### Tagging #### In case you would like to make a tag in SVN of your current translations (which probably is 11.3), there is a script in the susedoc package, that helps. In order to be able to build books when checking out the tag, you should tag the complete set (includig books that have npot been translated) Below is an example (replace any occurences of <UPPERCASE> with 1. cd into directory you want to tag 2. Run /usr/share/susedoc/bin/trunkcopy.sh -o <PATH TO WORKIN COPY>/opensuse-doc/trunk/documents/distribution \ -t tags/documents/openSUSE11.3 \ --svnroot "https://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/opensuse-doc" \ --osuffix "<YOUR LANGUAGE E.G. de>" \ --nonovdoc \ <LIST OF ENV FILES> #### 11.4 Changes ###### Start-Up: --------- For 11.4 we completely revamped that Start-Up guide. It now consists of 5 chapters derived from the former quickstarts: * Installation * KDE * GNOME * LibreOffice * Help & Troubleshooting The first 3 chapters have been shipped as separate Quickstart with former openSUSE versions (filenames are the same as before). The LibreOffoce part is new, the Help & Troubleshooting remains in the Start-Up. Reference: ---------- Most of the stuff that has been in previous Start-Up versions has been moved/merged into the Reference Guide. Files having been added from old Start-Up: * xml/inst_yast2.xml * xml/yast2_hw.xml * xml/yast2_sound.xml * xml/yast2_scanner.xml * xml/newbie_bash.xml * xml/newbie_perm_i.xml * xml/newbie_bash_commands_i.xml * xml/nm.xml * xml/nm_kde.xml * xml/nm_gnome.xml New Guides ---------- Two new guides have been added: * System Ananlysis & Tuning Guide (problem detection, resolution and optimization) * Virtualization with KVM (kvm, libvirt, qemu-kvm) Deleted Guides -------------- * KDE User Guide * GNOME User Guide * Application Guide Very good and up-to-date documentation for these topics is available upstream: KDE: http://userbase.kde.org/ GNOME: http://library.gnome.org/ Therefore we decided to replace these three guides with manuals coverings more complex and less well documented topics (KVM and Tunung, see above). -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-doc+help(a)opensuse.org

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