To: opensuse-doc@opensuse.org CC: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org = http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2011-03/msg00298.html Am 10/03/11 10:47, schrieb Vincent Untz: [...]

Use "su -", not "su". I'm actively wondering if there's any reason to keep the "su" default behavior around. It just keeps harming us again and again. [...]

Vincent

Hi Vincent, hi Frank, hello all, I think this should at least be reflected in the documentation. But there is used the su program without even mentioning the login shell ( --log/ -l/ -) option: Reference > Chapter 21. Shell Basics > 21.4. Becoming Root > 21.4.1. Using su http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.ne... I rate the hole reworking and expand the printed/book like manuals was a great operation (that should be mentioned in the 'highlights' article of 11.4). But maybe it some background (like: su versus su- ; what are gnomesu, kdesu, gksu, gksudo, xdg-su -c "[command]", ....like?) and explanations could be done in the wiki (at least as an unstable/stage version before including it/parts of it to the manuals)? Compare also: on the su/su - issue http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-release-beta/... and following http://forums.opensuse.org/english/other-forums/community-fun/opensuse-wiki-... and following On the basics and concepts of security http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-doc/2011-03/msg00001.html and following Regards Martin (pistazienfresser) -- - Martin Seidler - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-doc+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-doc+help@opensuse.org