I'm not sure if my problem is related to the 64bit
version
or a general SuSE 9.1 issue, but as i'm using SuSE
AMD64
i'll post it here:
Related to my hardware i had to change to the
OpenSoundSystem (OSS)
to have sound because i had no chance to get ALSA
running.
The OSS is running with excellent sound quality but
now i tried to
use the Enlightened Sound Demon (esd) the first time
and something
very strange happened :
uruk:/home/paco # esd
- server format: sample rate = 48000 Hz
audio_alsa: no cards found!
uruk:/home/paco #
even if i define the sound-device in spawn_options in
the
esd Config files what shouldn't be necessary it fails:
uruk:/home/paco # esd
- using device /dev/dsp0
- server format: sample rate = 48000 Hz
ALSA lib pcm.c:1962:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown
PCM /dev/dsp0
uruk:/home/paco #
i know that esd normally works with OSS, i had this
already running
with SuSE 6.0 (!) -
i have absolutely no idea why esd tries to open any
non existent
ALSA device - this seems to be a big riddle
as i removed all sound devices with YaST2 and then i
had disabled the
ALSA kernel modules using the OSS soundconf ...
Just for becoming sure that the problem isn't caused
by OSS in any
way i installed OSS on a other computer running
Mandrake 10
(as far is i know the program versions are very
similiar to SuSE 9.1)
the esd works out off the box ...
I'm really a bit confused now,
my only explanation for that all is that the SuSE 9.1
esd seems
to be broken in some way. Unfortunately i don't found
a patch for
it until nowwith YOU.
Am i the first having this problem ?
Please, could somebody tell me what is going on here ?
best regards
Franz
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Hi everybody,
recently I was wondering if Cool & Quiet of my Athlon64 3200+ is working
correctly on linux. /proc/cpuinfo shows me about 800 MHz cpu speed
when the system is idle and about 2000 MHz under load. So my
question is whether this information is enough to tell that Cool & Quiet
is working.
The board is a Gigabyte K8N Pro with bios version F11, cpu stepping is 8.
On Gigabyte's website I found no hint that Cool & Quiet is actually supposed
to work, so I didn't try it on windoze. But, hey, on linux (SuSE 9.1 Pro) it
works out of the box as it seems.
Am I right, or does /proc/cpuinfo only show what speed the processor
is supposed to run at and not what it is currently running?
Here is some more information from /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq:
for i in *; do echo $i; cat $i; done
==>
cpuinfo_max_freq
2000000
cpuinfo_min_freq
800000
scaling_available_frequencies
2000000 1800000 800000
scaling_available_governors
userspace performance
scaling_driver
powernow-k8
scaling_governor
userspace
scaling_max_freq
2000000
scaling_min_freq
800000
scaling_setspeed
800000
Cheers,
Roger
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Yes, U320 SCSI is WAY,WAY faster that SATA. That is my experience using Java web applications.
This is not a pure U320 SCSI versus SATA comparison. But on our production server with U320 SCSI, Intel RAID controller and 3 x
15000 rpm drives, database queries are almost 5 to 10 times faster than on a workstation with single SATA drive. The SCSI is in a
minimal RAID-5 configuration (i.e. only 3 disks). The production server has dual Opteron 240 chips (1.4Ghz), the test box has an AMD
Athlon 2500 (about 2Ghz).
First, the scsi bus can handle IO to multiple disks at one time.
Second you've got (usually one) 320MHZ bus versus a 150MHZ bus.
True, each SATA drive has 150MHZ.
Third,I would imagine, there has been a lot more time and money invested in optimizing drivers for the SCSI controllers, otherwise
folks would not buy them.
SCSI is expensive, but not that much more expensive than the equivalent SATA equipment. SATA's costs can be deceiving.
To get drives of the same caliber as SCSI drives you have to go to the Western Digital Raptor drives - they spin at 10,000 rpm - a
74MB drive is about US $206. A similar drive in U320 SCSI is about US $256, but you can also get a 15000 rpm drive for about US
$500.
The inexpensive BIOS/software RAID chips (card or motherboard) have no processor chip and no RAM CACHE. They simply do not compare
performance-wise to real hardware RAID. Actually Linux software RAID usually performs better than the RAID drivers that these chips
come with - there are a number of posts that have the results to prove this.
However a good SATA RAID controller with its own CPU and RAM is not really cheaper for SATA then SCSI. A 3Ware 8506-4LP SATA RAID
controller costs about US $340, the 8506-8LP costs about US $500. Adaptec U320 SCSI RAID controller are around US $400 for a single
channel card and about US $600 for a dual channel card (2 SCSI busses that can handle 15 devices each).
I am sure there's someone with more precise technical data, but I hope this helps.
If you need performance and you can affort the incremental costs, go SCSI.
- Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws [mailto:rrpalma@synopsis.ws]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:32 AM
To: skarsch(a)s1.karsch-net.de
Cc: Richard Mixon (qwest); suse-amd64(a)suse.com
Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Hello Don,
Thanks for your reply.
You're absolutely right; that's the IBM I'm referring to. What memory
are you using on your S2885? Please pardon my ignorance, but is it right
to assume that U320 SCSI is faster than SATA?
Regards,
_____________________________
Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA
Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708
email: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
"Pettini, Don" <don(a)healthmetrics.org>
05/31/2004 02:18 PM
To
"Richard Mixon (qwest)" <rnmixon(a)qwest.net>, <suse-amd64(a)suse.com>
cc
Subject
RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Hi Richard,
The system you are referring to is the 1u rackmount 325.
The
new system referenced by Ricardo is a new Dual Opteron desk-side unit
called the Intellistation A Pro. This station can come with a choice of
Nvidia cards(Quadro Pro 1100 or 3000), U320 SCSI, Firewire onboard, 1Gb
Ethernet onboard, DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW.
I custom built a dual 246 using Tyan S2885, which is a
great
workstation, very fast. I have 3 PCI-x SCSI adapters on it and all work
great, though a little fussy about PCI scan order on boot. I now have
1.5TB on the system and I/O performance is exceptional as compared with
the older Xeon I had. If you are looking for a workstation, either this
board, or the IBM Intellstation A Pro are great workhorses.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Mixon (qwest) [mailto:rnmixon@qwest.net]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:05 PM
To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com
Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Given you are looking at a workstation, this may or may not help. We had
the same decision to make last November/December when
buying our application server (Java web apps).
We liked the IBM, but the kicker was its 1U rack case only had space for
two disk drives. It was certainly more expensive, but not
unreasonably so, given IBM's (usually) excellent support. You had to buy
an external disk array to expand storage.
The lack of drive slots caused us to go with a Tyan Thunder S2880 based
system. Although we have built many ADM/Intel boxes, the
Opteron/AMD64 is new enough that we decided to let Monarch Computing
build it for us. Their assembly/burnin charge is absolutely a
bargain - around US $65 if I remember correctly. Given the issues we had
with RAID and the SCSI drives, we are very glad we did. We
tried the more recent S2882 with buildin SCSI/RAID but it would not work
with SLES 8. All in all, Monarch's support has been
excellent.
I will probably put together our next Opteron test server. However it
will be pretty basic compared to our production servers.
Still, if you can afford the IBM, I would go for it - you know the video
and everything is integrated and works. Hope this helps.
- Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws [mailto:rrpalma@synopsis.ws]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:12 AM
To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com
Subject: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Hello List,
We need to acquire a dual Opteron workstation. Our choices are:
- Build one ourselves , based on Tyan's Thunder K8W (S2885), with dual
Opteron's 250, SATA drives, and nVidia 5950 card
- Buy an IBM Intellistation A Pro with dual Opteron's 248, Ultra320SCSI
drives, and nVidia Quadro FX 1100
Thanks for your suggestions,
_____________________________
Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA
Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708
email: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
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Hi all,
I have now finally obtained and installed SUDE LINUX Profressional 9.1, and am
now re-installing some 32-bit software.
The Maple 9.0.3 installer
linux32 ./LinuxUpgrade.bin
gives the error message:
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Unable to load native
library: /tmp/install.dir.10080/Linux/resource/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so:
symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link
time reference
I tried various combinations of
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1; linux32 ./LinuxUpgrade.bin
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.21; linux32 ./LinuxUpgrade.bin
with no luck.
What next?
Linux linfinit 2.6.5-7.61cvs20040528150002-default #1 Fri May 28 19:04:18 UTC
2004 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Best regards
Hello all,
I might be wrong, but I think I saw somewhere that SuSE 9.1 and the Tyan
Thunder K8W (S2885) motherboard do not support SATA?
Is this right?
_____________________________
Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA
Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708
email: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
Hello List,
We need to acquire a dual Opteron workstation. Our choices are:
- Build one ourselves , based on Tyan's Thunder K8W (S2885), with dual
Opteron's 250, SATA drives, and nVidia 5950 card
- Buy an IBM Intellistation A Pro with dual Opteron's 248, Ultra320SCSI
drives, and nVidia Quadro FX 1100
Thanks for your suggestions,
_____________________________
Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA
Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708
email: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
Hi Richard,
The system you are referring to is the 1u rackmount 325. The
new system referenced by Ricardo is a new Dual Opteron desk-side unit
called the Intellistation A Pro. This station can come with a choice of
Nvidia cards(Quadro Pro 1100 or 3000), U320 SCSI, Firewire onboard, 1Gb
Ethernet onboard, DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW.
I custom built a dual 246 using Tyan S2885, which is a great
workstation, very fast. I have 3 PCI-x SCSI adapters on it and all work
great, though a little fussy about PCI scan order on boot. I now have
1.5TB on the system and I/O performance is exceptional as compared with
the older Xeon I had. If you are looking for a workstation, either this
board, or the IBM Intellstation A Pro are great workhorses.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Mixon (qwest) [mailto:rnmixon@qwest.net]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:05 PM
To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com
Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Given you are looking at a workstation, this may or may not help. We had
the same decision to make last November/December when
buying our application server (Java web apps).
We liked the IBM, but the kicker was its 1U rack case only had space for
two disk drives. It was certainly more expensive, but not
unreasonably so, given IBM's (usually) excellent support. You had to buy
an external disk array to expand storage.
The lack of drive slots caused us to go with a Tyan Thunder S2880 based
system. Although we have built many ADM/Intel boxes, the
Opteron/AMD64 is new enough that we decided to let Monarch Computing
build it for us. Their assembly/burnin charge is absolutely a
bargain - around US $65 if I remember correctly. Given the issues we had
with RAID and the SCSI drives, we are very glad we did. We
tried the more recent S2882 with buildin SCSI/RAID but it would not work
with SLES 8. All in all, Monarch's support has been
excellent.
I will probably put together our next Opteron test server. However it
will be pretty basic compared to our production servers.
Still, if you can afford the IBM, I would go for it - you know the video
and everything is integrated and works. Hope this helps.
- Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws [mailto:rrpalma@synopsis.ws]
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:12 AM
To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com
Subject: [suse-amd64] IBM or Tyan
Hello List,
We need to acquire a dual Opteron workstation. Our choices are:
- Build one ourselves , based on Tyan's Thunder K8W (S2885), with dual
Opteron's 250, SATA drives, and nVidia 5950 card
- Buy an IBM Intellistation A Pro with dual Opteron's 248, Ultra320SCSI
drives, and nVidia Quadro FX 1100
Thanks for your suggestions,
_____________________________
Ricardo R Palma
SYNOPSIS SA
Tel. (+51 1) 275-7523, 275-4708
email: rrpalma(a)synopsis.ws
www.synopsis.ws
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Hi,
I want to update the SuSE kernel from 2.6.4-52
to 2.6.4.54 with YOU.
Is it necessary to reinstall drivers as nvida
or oss after that ?
(maybe a naiv question but i never updated
the kernel before ;-)
best regards
Franz
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Hi Folks:
I wanted to let you know that the 3ware drivers in 9.0 are somewhat
out of date. Also, under 9.0 AMD, there is a simple bug in sd.c with
regards to signed vs unsigned ints, which limits the size of the SCSI
disk system to under 1 TB (1 TB - 1 byte will work, but 1 TB will
overflow). See
https://www.3ware.com/kbadmin/attachments/sd.c.patch
for the patch to sd.c, and look at the knowledgebase article "Q10753 -
Software Configuration: Does 3ware have support for 64-bit Linux
operating systems?" on http://www.3ware.com/KB/kb.asp. They mention
'There is a bug with 64-bit Linux 2.4 kernels where SCSI disk targets
greater than 1 Terabyte in capacity cannot be accessed beyond one
Terabyte (1 TByte). The resultant output for the error is:
"I/O error: device 08:00 sector X" '
Please include the latest 3ware drivers and the this patch for 9.0 AMD64
kernels if possible. Thanks!
Joe
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