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Hi Janis:

Yeouch! I'm running 9.0 on an s2885 w/dual SATA drives. Are you saying that this is lost moving to 9.1?

Now I'm in double jeopardy - my video is nvidia and I need the 3D acceleration. :-(

Would someone from suse please give an official position on this? Should I scrap my upgrade plans or just defer them until there is a solution?

Regards, - Darrell

On Thursday 27 May 2004 08:18, Janis Klava wrote:

that is correct, we have two boxes Thunder K8W (S2885) with Opteron 248 and SATA hard drive. 9.1 would not install, the installation process locks up during the file copy stage.

we solved the problem by changing out the SATA drive for an IDE ATA/133. it works perfectly now and are waiting on an IDE drive for the second box.

support has been invoked but no solution is forthcoming yet.

Janis

On Thursday 27 May 2004 17:55, rrpalma@synopsis.ws wrote:

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Hello all,

I might be wrong, but I think I saw somewhere that SuSE 9.1 and the Tyan Thunder K8W (S2885) motherboard do not support SATA?

Is this right?

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Darrell Shively sused@mucus.com writes:

Hi Janis:

Yeouch! I'm running 9.0 on an s2885 w/dual SATA drives. Are you saying that this is lost moving to 9.1?

Now I'm in double jeopardy - my video is nvidia and I need the 3D acceleration. :-(

Would someone from suse please give an official position on this? Should I scrap my upgrade plans or just defer them until there is a solution?

Well, I can't give an "official" position, but as a comment from one that has a Tyan-2885 based Workstation (we call our system CELSIUS V810) I can tell the following things.

1. SATA is supported in SuSE 9.1. I tried with 4 SATA drives and while SuSE 9.0 is crashing here (looks like SuSE 9.0 can't handle more than 2 drives) the 9.1 with Kernel 2.6 is working fine. All SATA drives are treated like SCSI drives, that means you adress them with /dev/sd?.

2. nVidia Support is still a problem. The AMD64 driver that you can get from the public nVidia download site (Version 1.0-5332) does not compile on SuSE 9.1. Of course nVidia is aware of that problem and as a OEM partner we could try out the new rel60 drivers that are not yet released for the public, and they are working on SuSE 9.1/Kernel 2.6. So its just a matter of time until those drivers go public.

Of course I can't tell for sure if all those applies to the original Tyan 2885 board, but since the controller chips are the same I don't think that in this special issues there is any difference.

HTH Rainer

Hi Ricardo

rrpalma@synopsis.ws writes:

Thanks for your input Rainer.

...

From a complete neophyte trying to build his own AMD DP machine:

1. Did SuSE 9.1 work out of the box with SATA? Or you had to do something

special? Are you using RAID 0?

SuSE 9.1 uses the sata_sil driver and the version supplied with it works fine with all 4 drives connected to the SiI 3114 SATA controller. Well, actually I don't use RAID and if I remember correctly SuSE detects that there is a RAID capability but recommends the use of Linux software RAID instead of "proprietary" RAID drivers. After "having a lot of fun" with an old Promise RAID controller that refused to work with new hard disks I really understand and support this advice. :-)

2. What do you mean by "nVidia Support is still a problem."? As per a

recommendation I got in this forum, I was planning on getting an GeForce FX 5950 Ultra. Will this work? What I mean is, will I be able to at least have it recognized by SuSE and get decent graphics? (even I don't get all the features)?

Well, I checked the public nvidia Website again 5 minutes ago, there is still the 1.0-5332 driver that won't run on SuSE 9.1. But as I told you there are new drivers in nVidias release queue, its only a matter of time until they are going public. And this morning I read on the Debian-AMD64 list that there is a page with patches for the old driver. Look here: http://minion.de/nvidia.html

Maybe this helps you to get the thing running on kernel 2.6 even without the new nVidia drivers.

3. Since you have it working, who do you recommend I get the memory from

(ie, brand)? --- I need 2 Gb

Well, the machine I'm using here is equipped with RAM modules from Samsung. Anyway, you should see your mainboard manual if there is some recommondation of the manufacturer. On our own machines we have a department that does extensive memory testing and they "release" modules for our mainboards. And this information is also going to the customer so that he knows what he has to buy.

HTH Rainer

Mark Horton mark@nostromo.net writes:

I've been running the nvidia 1.0-5332 driver with suse 9.1 for a few weeks with no problems. Here's the output of dmesg regarding the kernel module loading during bootup:

nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-5332 Fri Jan 9 12:42:32 PST 2004

I simply used Yast2 to install the nvidia driver during an online update. I did no further configuration myself (except adding Option "NoLogo" "on" to get rid of the logo display). I did have a problem at first with random lockups but it turned out to be a bad dimm. It has run smoothly ever since I had the bad dimm replaced.

That's quite strange. It would mean that the nvidia-driver is available on an FTP server as a RPM? But at least on ftp.suse.com I don't find any RPM that looks like it contains the nVidia driver.

Are you really running a 2.6.x kernel with the nVidia 1.0-5332 driver? I tried here several times and all I got was a message that the nvidia kernel module has a wrong format.

Regards Rainer

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Rainer Koenig wrote:

Mark Horton mark@nostromo.net writes:

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I've been running the nvidia 1.0-5332 driver with suse 9.1 for a few weeks with no problems. Here's the output of dmesg regarding the kernel module loading during bootup:

nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-5332 Fri Jan 9 12:42:32 PST 2004

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I simply used Yast2 to install the nvidia driver during an online update. I did no further configuration myself (except adding Option "NoLogo" "on" to get rid of the logo display). I did have a problem at first with random lockups but it turned out to be a bad dimm. It has run smoothly ever since I had the bad dimm replaced.

That's quite strange. It would mean that the nvidia-driver is available on an FTP server as a RPM?

No. There are a number of files in the patch area which do not have rpms but scripts attached. One of them is the nvidia script, which downloads the nvidia driver from nvidia and installs them.

But at least on ftp.suse.com I don't find any RPM that looks like it contains the nVidia driver.

Look in the scripts catalogue.

Are you really running a 2.6.x kernel with the nVidia 1.0-5332 driver? I tried here several times and all I got was a message that the nvidia kernel module has a wrong format.

It needs compiling. The script does it for you. Run YOU, go for manually selected packages and make sure you choose the nvidia installer.

Bjørn

Hello Rainer.

Thanks a lot!

Regards,

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Rainer Koenig Rainer.Koenig@fujitsu-siemens.com 05/31/2004 11:29 PM

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Subject Re: [suse-amd64] Dual Opteron and SATA

Hi Ricardo

rrpalma@synopsis.ws writes:

Thanks for your input Rainer.

...

From a complete neophyte trying to build his own AMD DP machine:

1. Did SuSE 9.1 work out of the box with SATA? Or you had to do

something

special? Are you using RAID 0?

SuSE 9.1 uses the sata_sil driver and the version supplied with it works fine with all 4 drives connected to the SiI 3114 SATA controller. Well, actually I don't use RAID and if I remember correctly SuSE detects that there is a RAID capability but recommends the use of Linux software RAID instead of "proprietary" RAID drivers. After "having a lot of fun" with an old Promise RAID controller that refused to work with new hard disks I really understand and support this advice. :-)

2. What do you mean by "nVidia Support is still a problem."? As per a

recommendation I got in this forum, I was planning on getting an GeForce

FX 5950 Ultra. Will this work? What I mean is, will I be able to at

least

have it recognized by SuSE and get decent graphics? (even I don't get

all

the features)?

Well, I checked the public nvidia Website again 5 minutes ago, there is still the 1.0-5332 driver that won't run on SuSE 9.1. But as I told you there are new drivers in nVidias release queue, its only a matter of time until they are going public. And this morning I read on the Debian-AMD64 list that there is a page with patches for the old driver. Look here: http://minion.de/nvidia.html

Maybe this helps you to get the thing running on kernel 2.6 even without the new nVidia drivers.

3. Since you have it working, who do you recommend I get the memory from

(ie, brand)? --- I need 2 Gb

Well, the machine I'm using here is equipped with RAM modules from Samsung. Anyway, you should see your mainboard manual if there is some recommondation of the manufacturer. On our own machines we have a department that does extensive memory testing and they "release" modules for our mainboards. And this information is also going to the customer so that he knows what he has to buy.

HTH Rainer

Hello Stefan,

Our programmes are registered and I did send this to support as well as feedback but no reply yet.

System: AMD Opteron 248 Tyan K8W S2885 motherboard (with Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA controller) 1 Seagate 120 Mb SATA HDD (other box had 2) 2 GB (4x512) Kingston DDR400 REG ECC DRAM Nvidia Quadro4 - 980XGL Plextor PX-708-A DVD Writer 3.5 Floppy BIOS has been upgraded to the latest 2885_102 version.

Initial boot (POST) and YaST go normally, system stops when YaST is copying programme files, anywhere from 1% to a maximum of 44% of all files.

The system is back to running SuSE Linux 9.0 for AMD64 again without any problems at present and has done so since 9.0 was released.

We swapped out the SATA drive for an IDE ATA/133 on one box and the installation went perfectly so the problem would appear to be with SATA or the Silicon Image Sil3114 SATA controller or support for them.

Janis

On Friday 28 May 2004 14:46, Stefan Fent wrote:

• Janis Klava jklava@lettux.lv [040527 17:18]:

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that is correct, we have two boxes Thunder K8W (S2885) with Opteron 248 and SATA hard drive. 9.1 would not install, the installation process locks up during the file copy stage.

We've got a K8W running a S-ATA disk with 9.1 here w/o any problem. The description you give seems to be a hardware problem of some other kind, maybe memory.

...

we solved the problem by changing out the SATA drive for an IDE ATA/133. it works perfectly now and are waiting on an IDE drive for the second box.

This is strange indeed - can you give me some more information on the failure?

...

support has been invoked but no solution is forthcoming yet.

SuSE support?

...

Janis

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